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Teenager that tragically died in Orlando

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Pointlesspolice · 25/03/2022 20:59

I have just looked at the Daily Fail headlines and a 14 year old has fallen from a ride and sadly died . Absolutely shocking and the poor guy wasn’t properly strapped in …he was overweight and was probably too embarrassed to get assistance with his seatbelt.
I am absolutely sickened by the comments from people,racist and fat shaming…where do these vile people get their thoughts from ? I despair 😞

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GrandTheftWalrus · 26/03/2022 02:21

Louden Park @pantsandpringles

Treebranches · 26/03/2022 02:33

To restore your faith in humanity (a little bit) I’ve just seen this ‘story’ on a Facebook page, there’s over 1000 comments and I haven’t seen anything horrible said by anyone. It’s all condolences, people upset, people saying they won’t go on those rides or let their children on them and saying ride operators need proper training.

sashh · 26/03/2022 02:41

[quote Pointlesspolice]@jesuisavecukraine…yes the poor guy was overweight but am NOT blaming him !! The ride operators should have identified the risk and not allowed him on the ride!
You have missed the point of my post …read it again![/quote]
He wasn't overweight though, he was a footballer, it's all muscle.

I'm fat, my fat would squish in on a ride like that, but muscle doesn't squish the same way.

Obviously I have no idea if that contributed to this tragedy.

RIP Tyree Sampson.

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 26/03/2022 04:07

Very tragic but make this the last time @Pointlesspolice you log onto daily mail website and give them the 'clicks' . Disgusting website that should be shut down. I hate them so much i unfollow any celebs who do anything with them

Rosehugger · 26/03/2022 05:10

@SophieSoSo

Surely there would be some safety mechanisms in place that wouldn’t allow a ride to start if the harnesses weren’t secure?

I know with the smiler accident, the ride stopped because the empty car on the track was automatically detected and the ride shut down, it was an employee that presses the override button to start the ride again because the empty cart couldn’t be seen due to being at the bottom of a drop.

Those were my thoughts too.
Moser85 · 26/03/2022 05:24

@HellToTheNope

His death is result of negligence. The ride operator should have checked and secured his harness and belt or if he/she deemed the boy unsafe in the seat they should have asked him to get off.

We have no proof that negligence was involved whatsoever. This boy could have taken the harness off himself. Stop spouting shit when you don't know all the facts.

Very unlikely to have taken it off himself.

The harnesses look very similar to a ride I've been on in Ireland. It's a very small scale one but similar idea.

The operators push the harness into place and they are completely locked then and cannot budge. They only open a few moments after the ride stops when they all unclick together and go up and I am assuming that it is the ride operator that does that with a button or something..but there's no way to take it off yourself.

Lucymay2113 · 26/03/2022 05:30

How anyone can be mean about an innocent child is beyond me. I get mad and angry with some adults, but could never feel that way about a child. He's died. Imagine his poor family reading those comments! 😔

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 26/03/2022 05:42

That's appalling - careless errors that have led to this poor boy's death.

The seat harness wasn't checked properly; a secondary belt wasn't included that could have helped save him; no one checked the light was on for his seat - such a waste of human life.

In one of the reports I looked at, it said that he had been refused entry on some of the rides because of his size, because they couldn't guarantee his safety - but apparently not on this one. Except it appears that they should have also refused him entry on this one too - or at the very least made sure the harness was clicked into place properly!

Bloody death-defying rides - only any good if everyone comes off them safely. I hope it never re-opens.

HELLITHURT · 26/03/2022 05:43

Absolutely tragic

Seaography · 26/03/2022 05:46

Absolutely horrific, that poor boy.

I thought most rides do have safety features though? Everytime I have been on a ride that's not full the staff go round and close the empty harnesses into place first. I have also been on one where they said one wasn't locked in and the ride wouldn't leave. It was a large guy who was just trying to hold it down!

I have also seen plenty of parents trying to sneak too short children onto rides and having full blown rows when told no.

jungledoc · 26/03/2022 06:05

People who watch the video, would you be happy if that was your dc & others were watching?

knittingaddict · 26/03/2022 06:07

[quote jesuisavecukraine]@Pointlesspolice i havd read it several times and it still comes across as fat shaming (as well as hyporcritical) which is what you have complained of others doing.

His weight is irrelevant and does not need mentioning. He is 14 and none of this was his fault. It was either a faulty ride or human error for not checking his harness was secure.

Like I say you can be as "nice" as you like in the way you call him fat and too embarrassed, but it doesn't take away from what you said.
An insult said with a smile is still an insult.[/quote]
I don't think it was victim blaming at all.

I used to love theme Park rides years ago. I'm now considerably overweight and the last ride I went on the bit holding me in really squished my stomach fat. I can totally imagine a situation in which I would avoid making a fuss in order to avoid embarrassment. That might sound stupid to some, but being fat is the ultimate crime these days and fat people know it.

I won't go on theme park rides again if I stay the size I am now.

I thought the op was perfectly fair. No one is blaming the poor lad. So sad for him and his family.

jungledoc · 26/03/2022 06:09

You’ve just witnessed this, the sound was horrific in itself, but still you keep filming and not helping. It’s beyond belief.

People will be in shock & need time to process & catch up with what's actually happened.

Why on earth someone uploaded instead of giving to the authorities I have no idea. Or why others watch it.

knittingaddict · 26/03/2022 06:10

I haven't clicked on the link and I'm relying on this thread to tell me what happened. I don't do the Daily Mail or watch horrifying videos.

knittingaddict · 26/03/2022 06:16

I should have added that the cause of this accident was 100% the lack of care by the staff in charge of the ride. No fault by that poor boy at all.

Roselilly36 · 26/03/2022 06:42

Absolutely tragic, his poor parents and friends, terrible to lose a child.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 26/03/2022 06:51

@oakleaffy

That is absolutely appalling. Poor young man and his family.

It showed a video of someone shouting ''Seatbelt, seatbelt''... These rides are potentially very dangerous.

They should have an alarm system that means the ride cannot start unless all restraints are firmly in place.

I'm shocked if they don't have that feature. It should be a basic feature for safety. Poor boy. And his poor family. I don't like my son on rollercoasters or a lot of rides as he's so thin, I worry what would happen.
Ponoka7 · 26/03/2022 06:53

@jungledoc

  • Someone's posted a video of it on Twitter. "Sadly likes trump dignity & privacy of others for some"

Sadly sometimes the only way black people in parts of the US get justice is to have video evidence. The video casts doubt that the attendant did the correct checks. An explanation why the ride couldn't be immediately stopped needs to be found as well. A video gets more people interested, which gets more support for a case. There has already been questions why the ride could start with a seat unlocked. The ride has been changed from the original design. The ride is supplied by Funtime, who has a base in the UK and makes our rides. But it was modified since installation.

HELLITHURT · 26/03/2022 07:02

[quote Ponoka7]@jungledoc

  • Someone's posted a video of it on Twitter. "Sadly likes trump dignity & privacy of others for some"

Sadly sometimes the only way black people in parts of the US get justice is to have video evidence. The video casts doubt that the attendant did the correct checks. An explanation why the ride couldn't be immediately stopped needs to be found as well. A video gets more people interested, which gets more support for a case. There has already been questions why the ride could start with a seat unlocked. The ride has been changed from the original design. The ride is supplied by Funtime, who has a base in the UK and makes our rides. But it was modified since installation.[/quote]
Sadly this is correct.

Lubeyboobyalt · 26/03/2022 07:04

Hmm. I've just seen a picture of the type of ride and harness - it's the same one I got kicked off once - I was at my highest weight and had seen the warnings that some rides might not be possible with a chest over 52in - my chest was 49in so I thought I'd be ok with it. All rides were fine except this style of ride and harness, which came down and clicked into place so I thought I was ok - but the ride staff said it wasn't secure and I had to leave. They gave me a free fast pass for a different ride

Anyway what I'm saying is he may well have thought he was securely clicked in. I did til the staff told me no, and I was smaller than the warnings had said. Definitely staff negligence - they can see when something isn't right if they actually look.

PaddlingLikeADuck · 26/03/2022 07:07

This is so tragic, that poor, poor boy Sad

lemmein · 26/03/2022 07:24

That poor, poor boy Sad absolutely horrific.

What an awful thing to have on your conscience - most of these theme park workers are just kids themselves.

WaffleWaffles · 26/03/2022 07:34

I've seen the video of the accident without realising what it is.

The operator was joking about with a few kids before he sends them up, just as its going up he tells the kid on the left to check his seat belt as its going up.

Then as it comes down the kid on the left falls out.

A female worker comes over at the end of the video asking did you check him? Are you sure you checked him and the operator insists he checked the child. Even though the video shows he didn't.

Quartz2208 · 26/03/2022 07:48

I agree I think it was staff error put surely given that is is a brand new ride (opened December 2021) and the danger factor it shouldn’t rely on human error there should be systems in place to prevent the ride starting

If they were and they were overriden that is something different entirelt

WashedupTroll · 26/03/2022 07:55

[quote jesuisavecukraine]@Pointlesspolice my posts explain exactly why.
You say he was overweight and probably too embraced to say anything.

That is victim blaming, fat shaming and hypocritical. especially as you go in to say others on other sites are vile for fat shaming.

Just because you say it in a "nice" way whilst dragging DM commentators who aren't quite so eloquent and are more blunt, and yes alot of the time vile, doesn't mean what you have said is acceptable.[/quote]
I agree. Fat shaming, victim blaming and hypocrisy.

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