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Teenager that tragically died in Orlando

278 replies

Pointlesspolice · 25/03/2022 20:59

I have just looked at the Daily Fail headlines and a 14 year old has fallen from a ride and sadly died . Absolutely shocking and the poor guy wasn’t properly strapped in …he was overweight and was probably too embarrassed to get assistance with his seatbelt.
I am absolutely sickened by the comments from people,racist and fat shaming…where do these vile people get their thoughts from ? I despair 😞

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Eggshausted · 25/03/2022 23:11

@Pointlesspolice

I have just looked at the Daily Fail headlines and a 14 year old has fallen from a ride and sadly died . Absolutely shocking and the poor guy wasn’t properly strapped in …he was overweight and was probably too embarrassed to get assistance with his seatbelt. I am absolutely sickened by the comments from people,racist and fat shaming…where do these vile people get their thoughts from ? I despair 😞
I looked at the headlines. Then you obviously looked at the comments, As long as people like you keep reading the articles, they will keep writing them. Every comment or article that you click on one the Daily Mail generates more income for them. Don’t try and distance yourself by calling it the Daily Fail. There is only one thing worse than the Daily Mail, and that’s the sensation seeking readers.
AdobeWanKenobi · 25/03/2022 23:21

The bit that amazed me, and I don’t know if it’s the same video being discussed, but the person filming the ride catches him falling, they then pan the camera around to where he is and there seems to be several people just stood looking with nobody rushing to help, including the person filming. After what seems like an age a woman shouts to “call an ambulance”.

You’ve just witnessed this, the sound was horrific in itself, but still you keep filming and not helping. It’s beyond belief.

newgymmy · 25/03/2022 23:22

@AdobeWanKenobi shock surely? I know for a fact I would freeze if I witnessed something like that.

Pointlesspolice · 25/03/2022 23:23

@Eggshausted…yes agree.I was literally just browsing the papers …not doing that again!! Has destroyed my faith in human nature…again!

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RiverRats · 25/03/2022 23:23

I came across the video not realising what it was. At the end the operator says that the light was on but it definitely wasn’t. I hope this makes people double and triple check in the future. I have reported the video, can’t believe people are sharing a child losing their life. It’s sick.

RiverRats · 25/03/2022 23:25

@AdobeWanKenobi

The bit that amazed me, and I don’t know if it’s the same video being discussed, but the person filming the ride catches him falling, they then pan the camera around to where he is and there seems to be several people just stood looking with nobody rushing to help, including the person filming. After what seems like an age a woman shouts to “call an ambulance”.

You’ve just witnessed this, the sound was horrific in itself, but still you keep filming and not helping. It’s beyond belief.

I saw that too, I’m sure it was probably shock. I didn’t even realise what happened I can’t imagine what it was like to be there. Why the person videoing uploaded it is beyond me though. The poor poor family
GrandTheftWalrus · 25/03/2022 23:32

Yeah I saw that video too. I thought it was just showing the ride etc until it pans round at the end. I haven't seen the one where they ask if it was checked, unless it was that one as I didn't have sound on.

I read in the article that they thought it was something falling off the ride so they didn't seem to rush to check.

Firefly1987 · 25/03/2022 23:44

I mean you're not going to expect something like that to happen, everyone must've been in total shock waiting to find out what exactly was going on and if someone else was going to do something...no one knows how they'd react in situations like that it's often the complete opposite of what you think you'd do.

This is quite errie for me as only a day or two ago I suddenly started thinking about another accident that happened where a boy died on some sort of log flume thing in the US a few years ago. I think he had managed to get on the ride but was too small and slipped out. Anyone know the one I'm talking about? Seems to be happening more and more often now very scary, poor lad horrific.

Oysterbabe · 25/03/2022 23:45

I saw the video too, absolutely beyond horrific. Sad That poor family.

Womansfreakly · 25/03/2022 23:55

This is awful & he must have been so terrified. Unfortunately these rides aren't anthropometrically designed for overweight people and they are often moderated by kids in their late teens early twenties who aren't confident challenging people. Perhaps as well as height restrictions they should give weight size guidance.

I was at Chessington once and witnessed a really awkward situation where 2 members in a family did not fit, could not be secured in the ride. There was quite a row going going on & they were escorted from the ride - I really felt for all involved at the time, but seeing things like this means ultimately safety first.

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 26/03/2022 00:01

@AdobeWanKenobi

It's the bystander effect. It's how human's behave when there are lots of people and something bad has happened. They all wait for someone else to step forward first to help. (Not everyone of course but most people. If you're in trouble and there is a crowd, you are less likely to receive help than if only one person was there.)

In this case, it would have been so shocking and so blunt. Youd have the bystander effect on play alongside the simple shock of something so out of the ordinary happening.

kittensinthekitchen · 26/03/2022 00:11

Yup, diffusion of responsibility. Its very interesting.

However, the park looked really quiet, almost empty. Doubt there were many people even realised to start with. Then, there's probably only one route in and out of the fence. I think the guy right by it definitely looked in shock, but likely it just took others a few seconds to realise what was happening and get there.

FromEden · 26/03/2022 00:22

@Firefly1987 I remember that one. The poor child died a very horrific death. He wasnt heavy enough for the raft or was in the wrong position based on his weight and the raft went airborne and he hit a metal pole.

this was it

DrWhoNowww · 26/03/2022 00:28

@Vintagecreamandcottagepie

Op, you were nothing but kind when starting this thread.
If OP was nothing but kind they wouldn’t have made an assumption on why the victim didn’t request a bigger seat/seatbelt.

The Victims weight had no bearing on the fact that the ride was allowed to proceed when his harness wasn’t secured - his weight did not at any point need mentioning unless for some reason you believe the victim was culpable because of his weight.

The OP absolutely was victim blaming and I can only imagine the reason no one else but @jesuisavecukraine is raising it is because the rest of the posters on this thread are grief whores who take delight in discussing the video that they’ve clearly had to search out to watch.

Shtfday · 26/03/2022 00:30

I dont even know how those people on the ride or watching the ride will every get over that.
Horrific
My thoughts with his family and my hope that it happened so quick that the young boy didnt know what was happening and didnt suffer

GrandTheftWalrus · 26/03/2022 00:31

How the fuck can these things happen? Like a raft going airborne?

There was one in Australia as well that they were one a river rapids type ride and 2 adults and 2 kids died as it flipped upside down.

Firefly1987 · 26/03/2022 00:42

[quote FromEden]@Firefly1987 I remember that one. The poor child died a very horrific death. He wasnt heavy enough for the raft or was in the wrong position based on his weight and the raft went airborne and he hit a metal pole.

this was it[/quote]
That's the one-absolutely horrific. I would never go on a ride like that it looked terrifying and it's terrible design lead to the tragedy.

fratellia · 26/03/2022 00:43

@Firefly1987 yes it was the worlds tallest water slide. I believe it was purposely built in a state where safety laws and regs weren’t that great because they wanted to rush it. The design should have been obviously horrifically unsafe- what is the point in a ‘safety’ net held up with metal poles when riders are going down at such a great speed.

Firefly1987 · 26/03/2022 00:57

@fratellia yeh it was so obviously an accident waiting to happen. I just read about it again as I couldn't remember why it exactly happened. Basically they had to get the right weight in the rafts for it to be safe and they put him alone in the front and two women in the back and he was too light and got thrown out into the netting. Just unbelievable really.

AnnesBrokenSlate · 26/03/2022 01:21

@Ionsion

Wow, I’m disgusted that 15% of people have voted YABU
I voted YABU. There's quite a difference between starting a thread saying there's been a tragic accident and sending love to the family or starting a thread surmising what happened; why it happened and repeating victim blaming and abhorrent comments.

If OP cared about the child, their family and common decency they'd ask MN to delete the thread .... but they won't because they were chasing cheap drama at the expense of a child's life.

Midlifemusings · 26/03/2022 01:36

I think he was just too big for the ride. According to the daily mail he was 6'5" and 365 lbs. Those seats have a shoulder harness and then a molded plastic bump between the legs to keep you in the seat with a leg on each side of the bump. He would have already been pushed forward in the seat and sitting on the bump rather than behind it, and the harness may have been locked down but his size mean it locked too far from the seat and there was space to slip out. He might have passed out or just the lurch of the ride stopping could have dislodged him from the seat.

This video shows two guys pretesting the ride. At 6:49, you can see that the second guy (not the guy filming) is also sitting over the bump and pushed forward and he isn't 6'5" and 365 lbs.

It is possiblehe was harnessed to the extent he could be. He should never have been allowed on the ride in the first place. Florida has a lot of big people though - so you would think they would have a clear weight limit or height limit.

oakleaffy · 26/03/2022 01:42

That is absolutely appalling.
Poor young man and his family.

It showed a video of someone shouting ''Seatbelt, seatbelt''... These rides are potentially very dangerous.

They should have an alarm system that means the ride cannot start unless all restraints are firmly in place.

oakleaffy · 26/03/2022 01:51

@Midlifemusings

I think he was just too big for the ride. According to the daily mail he was 6'5" and 365 lbs. Those seats have a shoulder harness and then a molded plastic bump between the legs to keep you in the seat with a leg on each side of the bump. He would have already been pushed forward in the seat and sitting on the bump rather than behind it, and the harness may have been locked down but his size mean it locked too far from the seat and there was space to slip out. He might have passed out or just the lurch of the ride stopping could have dislodged him from the seat.

This video shows two guys pretesting the ride. At 6:49, you can see that the second guy (not the guy filming) is also sitting over the bump and pushed forward and he isn't 6'5" and 365 lbs.

It is possiblehe was harnessed to the extent he could be. He should never have been allowed on the ride in the first place. Florida has a lot of big people though - so you would think they would have a clear weight limit or height limit.

My goodness. That ride made me feel giddy and vertiginous watching it .

That poor young lad.

RunnersHigh22005 · 26/03/2022 02:09

It’s absolutely heartbreaking. I believe the ride only opened last December so this might be its first busy season (us spring break). I’m wondering if they were pushing young & inexperienced ride operators to load and unload as quickly as possible to maximize the number of people able to ride ( and therefore the amount of money they bring in). His poor family…

pantsandpringles · 26/03/2022 02:17

When I was 12 (and very anorexic) I went to a Scottish theme park that I don't even think is in operation any more. Part of the ride was huge loops and the only safety feature was a metal click bar around your waist. I pushed mines down to the closest point to me, but could easily stand up and move out and in again, as I showed my friends.

When it got to halfway round the loop, I slid out and only survived by wrapping my legs and arms around this metal bar until the ride finished.

If I'd left it a split second later before grabbing on, I'm 100% certain I'd be dead and another daily fail headline, with comments blaming my weight, or something else equally as harmful - just like they are doing with this poor little boy.

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