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queensonia · 2022-03-23T18:16:09+00:00

My next door neighbours both tested positive for COVID on the weekend. Today I saw the husband getting in his car to go to work. He works for a medium sized public company with a lot of staff. He said he was told that he’s not legally obliged to isolate and that if he felt well enough he should still go into work. I told him he was morally obliged to isolate because he could infect colleagues who may suffer far worse than he is currently and pass it on to their relatives who may also get very ill or die. Is this what everyone is doing now.? In my industry we are pcr tested twice a week and not allowed on site until the test is negative.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 23/03/2022 22:51

YRNBU it’s going round like wild fire currently in our area. 3/5 in my household have it. We are isolating though as it’s not fair to spread. I feel like I was hit by a truck followed by the number 17 bus.

Blinky21 · 23/03/2022 22:53

@XenoBitch thanks, saw that, I was just saying what happens at my work and why making people go into work sick is a stupid idea! Glad I work for a decent employer

XenoBitch · 23/03/2022 22:57

[quote Blinky21]@XenoBitch thanks, saw that, I was just saying what happens at my work and why making people go into work sick is a stupid idea! Glad I work for a decent employer[/quote]
You working for a decent employer is not the fault of the OP's neighbour. OP is trying to gather a crowd of people welding pitchforks out for the blood of her neighbour for going into work with Covid... when he was told by his boss to go in.

RancidRuby · 23/03/2022 22:58

@queensonia

Thank you all for your many and varied opinions . I’m loving the irony of everyone telling me I should mind my own business …. on Mumsnet which is literally a site for sticking your nose into the lives of total strangers 😀

People are giving you their opinion because you have come on here and directly asked for them. Did your neighbour ask you for your opinion or did you just offer it up?

BitOutOfPractice · 23/03/2022 23:05

Speaking as someone currently at home, voluntarily isolating with covid, I can tell you op that if I were your neighbour I would no longer be “on friendly terms” with you if you tried to tell me what to do like this.

Your halo may be dazzling you somewhat.

Justgorgeous · 23/03/2022 23:06

@Mickarooni - best post on here

FoxyFoxyLoxy · 23/03/2022 23:10

To be fair to the OP, the film industry is properly bonkers about Covid and that has probably skewed her thinking.

I did a few days' work on a major movie a few weeks ago. I had to fill in a detail health questionnaire online every evening before work. Take a LFT at home before leaving in the morning and upload a photograph of the negative test. Compulsory PCR test daily when you arrived. They insisted on those white cone-like face masks at all times, cloth and blue surgical were banned. We were working outside - all of the crew were supposed to be wearing their masks at all times outside, not just indoors. Constant reminders to socially distance and sanitise.

I suppose it's because if a key member of the cast or crew gets Covid and they have to stop shooting, it costs $$$$$. But it really is properly nuts. If this is what the OP perceives as "normal", you can understand her being horrified as what the rest of us think is everyday life.

Kipperandarthur · 23/03/2022 23:11

I both agree and disagree with you. But on principle and not the fact you confronted him. The principle being that it would be better to not potentially spread covid.

But if he’s being told to attend work what is he supposed to do?

It’s clear that some employers are instructing employees to come to work and others aren’t. It’s also clear that many many people can’t afford to not be paid by not attending work.

I don’t think there are any easy answers to what should happen given where we currently are in this pandemic situation.

But without any doubt whatsoever it’s easier for some to take themselves out of circulation if they test positive than it is for others, mainly due to how their employers are fronting the situation with their own policies.

As always not helped with government guidance stating one thing, but encouraging restraint on the other hand, and putting the onus back on employers with regards to sick pay/absence or working from home policy if feasible.

My personal view is at the moment it would be better to still have some restrictions in place if testing positive, but I also have to balance this by saying it’s easy for me to have this stance as I work from home anyway running my own business.

Carla2601 · 23/03/2022 23:14

You’re all coming at this from a do what he likes POV. I’m suffering with infertility. We’ve spent our life savings on treatment. I have to go to the hospital every other day and I don’t have a car so I have to take public transport. One positive test and my treatment will be stopped. Mid way through. So I’d really rather if someone is contagious they just stay home and avoid causing me a further two years of pain (whilst I save up again) that can potentially be avoided

girlmom21 · 23/03/2022 23:18

@Carla2601

You’re all coming at this from a do what he likes POV. I’m suffering with infertility. We’ve spent our life savings on treatment. I have to go to the hospital every other day and I don’t have a car so I have to take public transport. One positive test and my treatment will be stopped. Mid way through. So I’d really rather if someone is contagious they just stay home and avoid causing me a further two years of pain (whilst I save up again) that can potentially be avoided

But he has a job to go to and could lose his job if he goes against company policy. A few months of defaulting on his mortgage and his life savings are gone too and his kids are homeless.

ScreamingBeans · 23/03/2022 23:23

Yeah, sorry, I'd misread it, I assumed he had a choice., the OP seemed to me to imply that he had a choice.

Basically I think if you've got a choice about it, you should continue to be careful if you're infected. It's a bit ambiguous about how much choice he's got, but on the whole, it looks like he could claim to not be well enough to go in, but work from home. If he's got no choice, then he's got no choice.

It's too late for me to care too much. :D

clpsmum · 23/03/2022 23:24

@DearlyBeloathed

Mind your own bleeding business.

This

RampantIvy · 23/03/2022 23:25

Unfortunately our local hospital is becoming overwhelmed. They have cancelled visiting patients, and my outpatient's appointment was cancelled.

Kipperandarthur · 23/03/2022 23:26

@Carla2601

You’re all coming at this from a do what he likes POV. I’m suffering with infertility. We’ve spent our life savings on treatment. I have to go to the hospital every other day and I don’t have a car so I have to take public transport. One positive test and my treatment will be stopped. Mid way through. So I’d really rather if someone is contagious they just stay home and avoid causing me a further two years of pain (whilst I save up again) that can potentially be avoided

I have sympathy for you. I have huge sympathy for CEV people who are so vulnerable in this situation.

But when the government have actually removed restrictions it’s a very difficult path to navigate.

ScreamingBeans · 23/03/2022 23:28

[quote Sofiegiraffe]@ScreamingBeans

Of course I wouldn't visit my elderly relative whilst knowingly infected with covid (or why other contagious illnesses). But again - that's not what the OP is about, is it? The neighbour isn't going to see his elderly relative, he's going to work, presumably to be paid and fulfil his contractual obligations. If I had a job where I wasn't entitled to sick pay and/or I was told I had to be at work by my employer, then I'd be doing the same as OP's neighbour because I'd want to be paid and to keep my job. That's what I mean by we need to just get on with it now. This doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to knowingly put your vulnerable relatives at risk ffs. It just means I think we need to start applying some degree of common sense. [/quote]
Yes, I agree with you.

Where you have a choice, you should be careful if you have Covid. Where you don't have a choice, well, you don't have a choice, so you can't be careful.

Carla2601 · 23/03/2022 23:33

@Kipperandarthur I agree - and I’m not angry that some people have to go out when they have Covid. I get it. I modify my life as best I can.

It’s the smart ass he can do what he wants responses. He can but just think of how many people there are like me who are pinning everything on the rest of the nation just being kind where they can. Recent decades of voting history demonstrate we’re not kind I know…..but you’ve got to have hope haha!

TwtrT · 23/03/2022 23:44

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RampantIvy · 23/03/2022 23:46

I would be expected to stay at home if I had covid. That said I can work from home anyway.

TatianaBis · 23/03/2022 23:47

@TwtrT

We live in a really weird, selfish little place here don't we.

Are the people saying YABU Daily Mail and Sun readers?

Of course he shouldn't go into work and infect people with COVID, it's outrageous.

I quite agree.

I wonder how many of these posters would be happy to know that the guy opposite them at work has Covid and prioritised his mortgage.

BoredtoTiers · 23/03/2022 23:48

I can't quite get my head around the people going 'yeah but the law says'.

I mean, the law says a lot of things. It's entirely possible the (a) the law doesn't adequately cover a scenario or (b) the law is an ass.

If your only recourse on a question of morality or ethics is to defer to the law then I would question what value you add to the debate to be honest.

Itwasnotmeormydog · 23/03/2022 23:54

Hope he told you to clear off out of it!
Rude!

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queensonia · 23/03/2022 23:55

To respond to everyone who thinks I was ordering my neighbour about, or organising pitchforks I genuinely wasn’t and I’m sure he didn’t see it that way. I was saying “he should stay home” meaning that his employer should be allowing him to stay home for the sake of his own health as well as the health of his colleagues. I do think we all have a moral obligation to be considerate of others, regardless of what the government policy may be. Not just with COVID but with everything we do. COVID hasn’t made me a self righteous dick. I’ve always thought that.

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XenoBitch · 23/03/2022 23:55

@TwtrT

We live in a really weird, selfish little place here don't we.

Are the people saying YABU Daily Mail and Sun readers?

Of course he shouldn't go into work and infect people with COVID, it's outrageous.

His boss told him to go into work. Please tell your boss that you will refuse to go into work for "moral reasons" because your neighbour told you so, and report back.

NotTerfNorCis · 23/03/2022 23:57

Totally with you here. He could leave someone permanently disabled with long covid, he could infect someone who then unwittingly infects a vulnerable relative who dies. Utter selfishness, and if proved his actions resulted in disablement or death, he deserves jail time.

XenoBitch · 23/03/2022 23:59

@NotTerfNorCis

Totally with you here. He could leave someone permanently disabled with long covid, he could infect someone who then unwittingly infects a vulnerable relative who dies. Utter selfishness, and if proved his actions resulted in disablement or death, he deserves jail time.

Jail time? You must be joking. I hope you are joking.