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This is just shocking (trigger warning -racism)

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iloverock · 15/03/2022 18:19

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/department-for-education-metropolitan-police-services-scotland-yard-hackney-b988292.html

Please read the formal review.

Essentially the teaching staff called the police because a black 15 year old girl smelt of cannabis. She was taken to a room and strip searched. She was on her period. Her mother wasn't notified. She was not given the opportunity for an appropriate adult to be present.

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Thedogscollar · 17/03/2022 12:08

All involved should be sacked and charged with sexual assault and child abuse. No safeguarding displayed at all.

All defenders on here are openly racist.

There is no defence for this. Absolutely disgusting that poor kid. I hope she can get some seriously good counselling to help her with what she suffered. I hope her life will not be ruined by these cruel bastards.

WeDontTalkAboutBrunoNoNoNo · 17/03/2022 12:25

@Afan

When the George floyd killing was discussed many black British people stated on this and other forums that the racism in America is not unique to that land but continues to flourish here. This is not a surprise to those same people. Maybe it is to those that shouted them down. Black children are not protected in this country - the adults run the gauntlet each day and try to equip their children to run that same gauntlet - we know schools are not a safe space - it’s common (and exhausting) for black parents to be in correspondence with head teachers and local MPs on a regular basis fighting for equal treatment of their children. It’s disgusting and those concerned in this case should be placed on the sex offenders register at the very least. They are depraved and racist. We have to fight for our children EVERYDAY. Wether it be to stand up to security guards that follow them around Tesco to school teachers trying to downgrade their university predications because of a single c grade WHEN THEIR GRANDMOTHER DIED amongst a plethora of A GRADES beforehand. It’s constant and I’m scared and will continue to fight. this poor girls family Are dealing with one of our worst fears and I pray for their recovery.
It is exhausting 😔 Every bloody week I have a conversation with myself about the next eventually that I have to prepare my child for. Constant mental exhaustion.
DysonSphere · 17/03/2022 13:47

@IDontWanna

It doesn't matter how strong they are when people in authority want to ignore them.

I guess not. You're completely right. You know what? I am tired. I am soooo tired. It's caught up with me all at once. A huge slump.
The huge obvious disparity in how brown people fleeing war are treated and those who are not....the disparity in majority black countries getting covid vaccines, the little everyday lowering of expectations, having to tell my kids they have to be better or they'll be judged twice, the difference in reporting of crimes...now this. All of a sudden it's become too much.

My mental health is starting to suffer and I'm usually quite robust and pragmatic about the inequalities I, my children, and my community suffer in the world. I'll usually go out of my way to see things in as unbiased a light as possible. I reject simple rhetoric. But no. It's too much for me. I need to return to Jesus or something for my sanity, because I'm not sure I can take anymore and remain a nice person who believes in the inherent good in all people.

phishy · 17/03/2022 13:57

One more thing for black/brown people to file away in their minds on what to be prepared for.

The mental load is immense.

WrongWayApricot · 17/03/2022 14:51

I'm really struggling with how this series of events even started. She was in an exam, presumably silent room full of people. Teachers/supervisors walking up and down. They get to her and stop to sniff or something? Then go and tell another. They discuss this. Then, what, approach her and make her walk out with all heads turning. My heart would be pounding, thinking I was being accused of cheating or there was a family emergency. Then horror unfolds. I don't expect much kindness or empathy from the police anymore, especially after the selfies incident. The teachers though, and school nurse. I don't know how people can sleep at night really. I hope they lose their jobs, teaching and nursing is clearly not for them.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2022 15:32

Love and strength to you all.💕Sad

ScreamingMeMe · 17/03/2022 15:43

Pleased to see Sadiq Khan stepping up

Officers who strip-searched 15-year-old girl should face gross misconduct, Khan says

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ScreamingMeMe · 17/03/2022 15:52

Sadiq Khan letter urges IOPC to investigate Met officers who strip searched ‘Child Q’ for gross misconduct

The mayor of London has called for sanctions imposed by a police watchdog on the cops involved to be increased from misconduct to gross misconduct, LondonWorld can reveal.

Horrific details of the “degrading” search of the teenager - who was removed from a mock exam, made to remove her sanitary pad, and bend over - emerged in a safeguarding report.

Teachers at her school in Hackney in December 2020 called the police after believing the girl smelled of cannabis - after a search of her bag, coat and shoes revealed no drugs present.

The search took place without an appropriate adult present, with teachers outside the room.

The search took place without an appropriate adult present, with teachers outside the room.

Officers were aware the girl, who was not permitted to use the bathroom, was menstruating.

It comes just weeks after former Met commissioner Dame Cressida Dick admitted more “embarrassing - or disgusting” police scandals would emerge in a BBC interview.

The report, published by the City and Hackney Safeguarding Board heard from Child Q and her relatives that she “can’t go a single day without wanting to scream, shout, cry or just give up”, was often found “screaming in her sleep”, and was “self-harming, traumatised and requires therapy”.

Her aunt said: “She is now a shell of the bubbly child she was before this incident.”

Yesterday the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) confirmed it was looking into the incident, and three officers had been served notices of misconduct investigations.

Speaking today (Thursday, March 17), Mr Khan said: “I am disgusted and angered by the account of what a 15-year-old black schoolgirl from Hackney was subjected to.

The investigation by the board found racism likely played a part in the decision to conduct the search, which has understandably been extremely traumatic for the child and her family.

“Now we have this new report I have written to the IOPC asking them to look at it as a case of gross misconduct by the officers involved.”

In the letter to the IOPC director general, Michael Lockwood, Mr Khan wrote: “I read the report with dismay and disgust.

“I am writing to urge you to consider in detail the report by the Local Safeguarding Practice Review, particularly its finding that racism had a role in the decision to conduct the search.

“I understand that in line with statutory guidance, allegations of discrimination would normally be considered at the level of gross misconduct rather than misconduct.

“I’d be grateful if you would confirm that this case will be considered as one of gross misconduct.”

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Thursday, 17th March 2022, 3:33 pm

Officers who strip searched a 15-year-old black schoolgirl who was on her period should have their actions treated as gross misconduct, Sadiq Khan has said.

The mayor of London has written a letter to the police watchdog calling for sanctions imposed on the cops involved to be increased from misconduct to gross misconduct, LondonWorld can reveal.

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Horrific details of the “degrading” search of the teenager - who was removed from a mock exam, made to remove her sanitary pad, and bend over - emerged in a safeguarding report.

Teachers at her school in Hackney in December 2020 called the police after believing the girl smelled of cannabis - after a search of her bag, coat and shoes revealed no drugs present.

London mayor Sadiq Khan. Photo: Getty
London mayor Sadiq Khan. Photo: Getty

The search took place without an appropriate adult present, with teachers outside the room.

Officers were aware the girl, who was not permitted to use the bathroom, was menstruating.

It comes just weeks after former Met commissioner Dame Cressida Dick admitted more “embarrassing - or disgusting” police scandals would emerge in a BBC interview.

The report, published by the City and Hackney Safeguarding Board heard from Child Q and her relatives that she “can’t go a single day without wanting to scream, shout, cry or just give up”, was often found “screaming in her sleep”, and was “self-harming, traumatised and requires therapy”.

Her aunt said: “She is now a shell of the bubbly child she was before this incident.”

Yesterday the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) confirmed it was looking into the incident, and three officers had been served notices of misconduct investigations.

Speaking today (Thursday, March 17), Mr Khan said: “I am disgusted and angered by the account of what a 15-year-old black schoolgirl from Hackney was subjected to.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick makes a statement outside of the Old Bailey, following the sentencing of Wayne Couzens (Photo by DANIEL LEAL/AFP via Getty Images)

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick makes a statement outside of the Old Bailey, following the sentencing of Wayne Couzens (Photo by DANIEL LEAL/AFP via Getty Images)
The investigation by the board found racism likely played a part in the decision to conduct the search, which has understandably been extremely traumatic for the child and her family.

“Now we have this new report I have written to the IOPC asking them to look at it as a case of gross misconduct by the officers involved.”

In the letter to the IOPC director general, Michael Lockwood, Mr Khan wrote: “I read the report with dismay and disgust.

“I am writing to urge you to consider in detail the report by the Local Safeguarding Practice Review, particularly its finding that racism had a role in the decision to conduct the search.

“I understand that in line with statutory guidance, allegations of discrimination would normally be considered at the level of gross misconduct rather than misconduct.

“I’d be grateful if you would confirm that this case will be considered as one of gross misconduct.”

He said the case had caused “widespread concern amongst the public” and that incidents such as Child Q’s experience “foster distrust” and “hamper any efforts to police by consent”.

And he asked the director general to keep him “updated on this case as a matter of priority”.

The mayor, who recently announced he had lost confidence in Met commissioner Dame Cressida Dick, sparking her high-profile exit from the force, said: “Confidence in our police is almost at an all time low.

“I am determined that the next commissioner must have a plan to tackle the serious cultural issues within the Met Police and regain the trust of Londoners.”

However, the mayor has also faced criticism today for his previous suggestion that police should be stationed in schools reopening post-lockdown, to avoid a surge in violent crime.

Mandu Reid, leader of the Women’s Equality Party (WEP), wrote on Twitter: “Like so many black women I’m still reeling from learning what happened to Child Q.

“And then I remembered this. I can’t say loudly or clearly enough: NO!

“Sadiq Khan - the police have no place in our schools. Especially this version of the police… we cannot trust them.”

Bergamotte · 17/03/2022 15:55

@WrongWayApricot

I'm really struggling with how this series of events even started. She was in an exam, presumably silent room full of people. Teachers/supervisors walking up and down. They get to her and stop to sniff or something? Then go and tell another. They discuss this. Then, what, approach her and make her walk out with all heads turning. My heart would be pounding, thinking I was being accused of cheating or there was a family emergency. Then horror unfolds. I don't expect much kindness or empathy from the police anymore, especially after the selfies incident. The teachers though, and school nurse. I don't know how people can sleep at night really. I hope they lose their jobs, teaching and nursing is clearly not for them.
Yes, it's just so awful. I mean she should ABSOLUTELY NOT have been stripped searched in the first place. That was ridiculous and disproportionate and even IF it had been necessary, of course they should have contacted her mum, or at least a chaperone if they couldn't get hold of the girl's parents.

But all the details just make it worse.
They pulled her out of an exam- how is anyone to be expected to concentrate, going back into an exam after even a non-strip search? Why not just wait until the end of the exam? (Could have taken her out when the time is up, but just before everyone has been allowed to leave)

And not being allowed to go to the toilet afterwards- what purpose does that serve? They've already searched her. If if not on my period I would want to go to the toilet after such an ordeal to collect myself, wash my hands to try to get rid of the feeling of violation etc. Not to be allowed to put on a fresh pad is just awful.

I could think that maybe the teachers stayed outside the door thinking they were giving her privacy, but that seems misguided at best. As they didn't even ask her how she was afterwards, or offer a drink of water or a chat or anything... welI can't even imagine.

Pemba · 17/03/2022 16:58

Somebody had it in for this poor girl clearly. So sad that she used to be a star pupil and is now a recluse. Thanks to her school taking such good care of her.... The school's name will surely get out eventually?

Those bitches of police officers should be strip searched themselves. After their arrests for sexual assault of a minor. That way they might learn a bit of empathy.

daisyjgrey · 17/03/2022 17:28

It's disgusting, but at this point, if you're shocked then you're not paying attention.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 17/03/2022 17:33

@daisyjgrey

Yea I agree, only white people are shocked by such things.

I’m saddened but defo not shocked

crepesncream · 17/03/2022 17:38

I'm disgusted with the police. Are they this diligent when called out for a house burglary?

FeministBadger · 17/03/2022 17:47

[quote OnceuponaRainbow18]@daisyjgrey

Yea I agree, only white people are shocked by such things.

I’m saddened but defo not shocked[/quote]
This is me I'm afraid. I'd expect this behaviour from the police but I am genuinely shocked that the school were not just complicit but actively set in motion such a sequence of events and didn't once seem to care for pupil welfare.

It is a betrayal on so many levels and I just can't stop imagining how that poor girl must have felt having all those people she's supposed to be able to trust doing that to her. How will she ever trust anyone in a position of authority ever again? Probably she would be right not to.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 17/03/2022 17:50

@FeministBadger

Many schools are also institutionally racist without realising.

How will she ever trust anyone in a position of authority ever again

She probably didn’t any way!

TotalRhubarb · 17/03/2022 18:11

@crepesncream

I'm disgusted with the police. Are they this diligent when called out for a house burglary?
The Met haven’t bothered themselves about burglaries for years.
DysonSphere · 17/03/2022 18:25

It's disgusting, but at this point, if you're shocked then you're not paying attention.

Well I'm black, with black children who have gone through the school system and I'm still shocked at just how ....I can't find the words....deeply, openly abusive this was to a child. It goes waaaay above just racism by police. I myself and my entire family have been subject to some of that. It's the ineptitude of the teachers, the nurse, everyone being pulled out an exam...I mean was it a racist rally or something?!!

Mind you I pulled my kids out of school and they only went back for exams due to the lowered expectations.

Perhaps things had got very much worse and I hadn't realised.

ldontWanna · 17/03/2022 18:26

[quote DysonSphere]@IDontWanna

It doesn't matter how strong they are when people in authority want to ignore them.

I guess not. You're completely right. You know what? I am tired. I am soooo tired. It's caught up with me all at once. A huge slump.
The huge obvious disparity in how brown people fleeing war are treated and those who are not....the disparity in majority black countries getting covid vaccines, the little everyday lowering of expectations, having to tell my kids they have to be better or they'll be judged twice, the difference in reporting of crimes...now this. All of a sudden it's become too much.

My mental health is starting to suffer and I'm usually quite robust and pragmatic about the inequalities I, my children, and my community suffer in the world. I'll usually go out of my way to see things in as unbiased a light as possible. I reject simple rhetoric. But no. It's too much for me. I need to return to Jesus or something for my sanity, because I'm not sure I can take anymore and remain a nice person who believes in the inherent good in all people.[/quote]
I am so so sorry . Thanks

Elephantgrey · 17/03/2022 19:24

The poster who said the teachers wanted to take her down a peg or two got it spot on. It is the only way that I can account for their behaviour and escalating the situation when she had no drugs in her pocket and bag and was sat peacefully in an exam. Some people are really triggered by seeing a black girl do well.

Poor soul. I can’t imagine her level of mortification. It is a terrible thing to happen to someone of any age but as a teenage girl it must be awful.

I used to teach in the area and I was horrified to find out that some schools in east London have a police officer on site (although at the time they were not on site due to Covid). This must have played a part in normalising getting the police involved in what should have been a routine incident which goes on in every secondary school.

VladmirsPoutine · 17/03/2022 19:56

Black girls aren't allowed to be young and 'carefree' and indeed enjoy their childhood. Further to that there is something that really riles white people about seeing a Black person happy. It somehow speaks to their inner colonizer that a black person shouldn't be relaxed. I've seen this happen throughout my life.
Look at the 'strong black woman' or the 'angry black woman' trope. Add the mammification of black women. Why not even the 'sassy' black woman trope. Whatever it may be - black women are just not allowed to exist.

GreyCarpet · 17/03/2022 19:57

I used to teach in the area and I was horrified to find out that some schools in east London have a police officer on site

Sadly, it's commonplace now.

My child attends a very highly regarded outstanding school in an affluent leafy suburb. They've had a police officer on site for a couple of years and have recently had a knife arch installed.

katienana · 17/03/2022 20:05

Completely disgusted by this, all the adults involved should be sacked if you ask me. The girl was assaulted somewhere where she should have felt safe. I hope she is getting therapy or some help.

Elephantgrey · 17/03/2022 21:06

@GreyCarpet

I used to teach in the area and I was horrified to find out that some schools in east London have a police officer on site

Sadly, it's commonplace now.

My child attends a very highly regarded outstanding school in an affluent leafy suburb. They've had a police officer on site for a couple of years and have recently had a knife arch installed.

I know it has been going on for a while now but it did really shock me when I found out about it. I can’t see how it can be justified.
endofthelinefinally · 17/03/2022 21:41

Like pp I am unsurprised by the behaviour of the police. I am disgusted by the behaviour of the teachers, but, looking back I remember some really nasty, bullying, vindictive teachers, both from my school days and those of my DC. Nothing as horrific as this, but I can believe that there are nasty, racist bullies in all professions. There are teachers that have a problem with clever, diligent children. It is jealousy and resentment IME.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/03/2022 00:02

I used to teach in the area and I was horrified to find out that some schools in east London have a police officer on site

If a school requires an on site police officer, it is not adequate and serious questions need to be asked about its management.

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