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To think they should vet people offering home to refugees?

82 replies

youllneedthisfish · 15/03/2022 12:47

All morning I’ve heard people being interviewed about the Ukraine refugee scheme. Even interviewers are minimising the risks of not vetting people taking refugees in.

I think this is going to be a great risk to vulnerable children and adults.

Even dogs who need a home are lucky enough to get their new homes vetted under quite infamously strict criteria.

I know nearly all people offering this help will be genuine but I can’t help think a tiny few will be nasty in quite a few different ways.

I really hope that it works out well and that the charities with resources to vet before recommending a named family will step in and gatekeeper this - but perhaps that’s why they asked for you to name someone.

I haven’t a spare room currently or I’d be on the list- but you do need a car where I live not to be isolated - how will that works out for people

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LoganberryJam · 15/03/2022 12:49

I think you have a point, but I guess it would be logistically difficult and very costly.

AnnaMagnani · 15/03/2022 12:50

Have seen an expert in disaster management on Twitter this morning predicting that in 10 years time we will be having an investigation into abuse of Ukrainian women and girls during the Refugee Rehousing Scheme.

Having met people who are in prison due to their behaviour towards their formal and informal foster children, I couldn't agree with you more OP.

Evilcountspatula · 15/03/2022 12:50

Completely agree and I’m so worried for the traumatised and vulnerable people (mainly women and children) who will fall into potentially a worse situation than that which they have left behind. It’s potentially a huge issue and the more people that draw attention to it the better.

Duracellbunnywannabe · 15/03/2022 12:51

They are.

nearlyspringyay · 15/03/2022 12:52

Totally agree. Seems like the Ukrainians are rightly wary too. It's the government passing the buck.

BlanketsBanned · 15/03/2022 12:56

The Gov.UK site clearly states that applicants will be vetted and undergo security checks and that their home must be in good condition

AchillesPoirot · 15/03/2022 12:56

They are vetting people though?

MRex · 15/03/2022 12:57

There are going to be checks, if you look at the actual forms then you would see that: www.gov.uk/guidance/homes-for-ukraine-scheme-frequently-asked-questions.

2Gen · 15/03/2022 12:58

I think both parties should be vetted. Just as some of the refugees might be unpleasant people, so might some of those offering to accommodate them also be. There are bad people all over the world, in every nation, class and of both sexes. Just as we would not dream of letting in every stranger who might want to come into our home, we also would not want to go into any other stranger's house without some assurance we would be safe. Aren't we always telling our children to be wary of stranger's and not to go into the houses of those we do not know very well without their parents? I think it's a given that some sexually predatory men will be offering rooms to young Ukranian women, just as there are landlords offering rooms to young women of our own countries in exchange for sex instead of rent. This is a big problem these days and I can't see why it wouldn't be a problem for Ukranian refugees too unless there are protective measures put in place. Vetting of both parties is crucial and if it isn't done, there will be serious problems and a lot of preventable pain and damage.

PainterMummy · 15/03/2022 13:02

I’d love to offer my sister bedroom to a refugee but I’m worried about vetting and once you bring them into your home, I’m afraid may be too difficult for them to leave if it does not work out for you. My DH is still WFH and has some requirements if the house being fairly quiet and he’s a neat freak.

AllOfUsAreDead · 15/03/2022 13:06

I thought they were, although dunno how when the vetting process for just getting a job is very delayed and slow.

Probably be a tick box exercise than proper vetting.

Mamamia7962 · 15/03/2022 13:22

I wish people would do a quick Google search before starting threads like this. OP people taking in refugees will be vetted

Phos · 15/03/2022 13:30

Personally I think both sides need to be vetted. Inviting an unknown person into your house also makes you vulnerable to forms of abuse.

On the other hand, vetting would be at most background checks. It wouldn't show up some of the concerns raised above, e.g. people hoping to house females that they can have sex with, unless they've been convicted of an offence in the past.

youllneedthisfish · 15/03/2022 13:37

I have looked. The .gov FAQ says "

Eligibility checks will be carried out which may include a visit to your home."

may

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Turningpurple · 15/03/2022 13:45

I agree. I think there's going to be chaos.

I think loads of people applying do not understand how difficult this will be. I would say a good portion will really struggle and end up asking the refugees to leave and causing more upset. I think loads of people are no prepared for this.

I think we could end up housing vulnerable women and children, with hosts who are vulnerable themselves and will be a shit show for all.

And then yes, there's going to be a portion that have sinister intentions. And that probably won't out for 10-20 years.

Bananabutter · 15/03/2022 13:52

YABU. Beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s a silly scheme that we can’t afford anyway so no need to add anymore red tape on.

youllneedthisfish · 15/03/2022 13:57

@bananabutter In my world beggers very much get a choice. They should be treated with respect and open arms. Hmm

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Turningpurple · 15/03/2022 16:37

@Bananabutter

YABU. Beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s a silly scheme that we can’t afford anyway so no need to add anymore red tape on.

So beggars can be put at risk of abuse. As can beggars children?
MiniDaffodils · 15/03/2022 16:45

It’s more than may do a visit - they are doing background checks on both parties. They may also visit your home.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 15/03/2022 16:49

They are vetting both sides. Of course this is not failsafe and I honestly don’t know how it’s going to work for people whose paperwork is destroyed or inaccessible. But it’s more cautious than the ‘pitching up at the railway station with a sign’ method which is happening elsewhere.

BlanketsBanned · 15/03/2022 16:50

Lets home the private landlords and social housing applicants get vetted, have security checks and home visits, up their standards too and improve the disgraceful accommodation some of them get away with renting out.

Nanny0gg · 15/03/2022 17:12

I've thought that from the beginning. There's already been at least one poor girl raped by a 'rescuer'

However in a dire humanitarian situation like this, there isn't the time or the manpower/resources to do it.

There will definitely be collateral damage from all this though. Women and children as usual lsad]

Mrsjayy · 15/03/2022 17:15

I think they are vetting I saw something earlier about it I think it will be like a disclosure check. I don't think they are letting anybody have anybody 🤔

MintyFreshBreath · 15/03/2022 17:16

There’s definitely certain criteria and I think you have to have a DBS don’t you?

CaMePlaitPas · 15/03/2022 17:17

I have this awful feeling a lot of these women and children are going to end up abused, either in prostitution or domestic service. My heart aches for them.