To think they should vet people offering home to refugees?

[youllneedthisfish]

All morning I’ve heard people being interviewed about the Ukraine refugee scheme. Even interviewers are minimising the risks of not vetting people taking refugees in.

I think this is going to be a great risk to vulnerable children and adults.

Even dogs who need a home are lucky enough to get their new homes vetted under quite infamously strict criteria.

I know nearly all people offering this help will be genuine but I can’t help think a tiny few will be nasty in quite a few different ways.

I really hope that it works out well and that the charities with resources to vet before recommending a named family will step in and gatekeeper this - but perhaps that’s why they asked for you to name someone.

I haven’t a spare room currently or I’d be on the list- but you do need a car where I live not to be isolated - how will that works out for people

I feel that as with everything else, vetting and DBS don't show those things people hide and haven't been "caught" for. Even though we probably don't have the resources I think in an ideal world there would be a liaison officer for these families and refugees to keep an eye on them. I feel there may be a chance for modern slavery to perhaps increase behind closed doors.

[quote youllneedthisfish]**@bananabutter* In my* world beggers very much get a choice. They should be treated with respect and open arms. [/quote]
We don’t live in your world. We live in the real world.

And in the real world, the UK does not have the infrastructure, healthcare, money, schooling, housing for its own never mind adding more.

I find it laughable that in Scotland masks are still mandatory, yet we are being urged to open our homes to refugees who may not have been vaccinated. The world is crazy.

Absolutely agree, ive seen a few too many posts on facebook from people asking how they can get unaccompanied minors to look after who seem strangely relectant to contact a fostering agency.

Ive signed up but I fully support being vetting

Vulnerable people should not be shoved this way and that without proper due care and attention for their wellbeing. Society should always be judges on how well it supports its most vulnerable members.

Well nobody needs to open their homes to anybody I'm sure those who are will have information to make their own decisions.

We work for the police, both to,d we have to before accepting any allocation. Our vetting will be reviewed, particularly as I WFH almost exclusively, and DH 75/25%

Hasten to add, this isn’t about ‘enough’. It’s security safeguards in relation to what we have contact with daily, and what is on the devices we use for homeworking.

No prejudgements on who comes over here.

If you don’t check the address you let you kids go to on a sleepover (because, quite rightly you can’t) then don’t use ‘they’re Ukrainian’ as an excuse.

It’s not ready to go live yet we should have them over in sports halls and like until checks can be done for non family. At very least we need a link person with each family who know where they are and regular contact so they know if anyone disappears and if reports abuse and know be airlifted out the situation in an instant.

These people need money or be relying on other for food clothing and shelter until benefit claims kick in. That takes mim 5 weeks best of times and that’s if you have every paperwork and ID going. Goodness knows how DWP going slot them into system and make it work without serious issues.

I agree. The scheme sounds like an absolute magnet for perverts - want some vulnerable women and children in your home? Sign up here!

@Bananabutter

YABU. Beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s a silly scheme that we can’t afford anyway so no need to add anymore red tape on.

So you’re happy for young girls who have escaped from a war zone to be raped or sexually exploited? I assume you wouldn’t be happy for that to happen to you or your daughters? But it’s okay for Ukrainians because what, they were born somewhere else and write with a different alphabet?

I volunteer with refugees and I’d rather live with any of them than with someone with views as vile as yours.

Well, let’s see. When female travellers were housed in UK quarentine hotels, they got sexually harassed by the security guards.

I wonder what will happen when traumatised vulnerable women and children with no money or local family or place to run to are housed with any random creep with a spare room.

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I think some vetting will happen, some will be missed. But yes, I fear there will be some individuals seeing an opportunity to get some 'unpaid help' at home or worse. I would hope they will be extra careful about anyone taking in women or children.

@Mamamia7962

I wish people would do a quick Google search before starting threads like this. OP people taking in refugees will be vetted

HOW will they be vetted?

The govt is making it up as they go along. They have no idea how people will be vetted yet is my guess. Who is going to carry out this vetting? Social workers?

Having read some comments on TicTok about housing good looking young Ukrainian women I think we need to be extremely cautious here. Also the impact it has on your housing dynamics should not be underestimated along with sharing space with trauma victims. We work with Syrian refugees in our community and these aspects can not be dealt with by everyone and should not be underestimated. Impact on existing children in a family can be profound.
Saying that, I'm in Budapest at the moment and the scenes at the railway station today are actually heart breaking and you can see why people want to just try and help.

You are unreasonable because the government said people offering homes will be vetted.

But these are exceptionally vulnerable and traumatised people and we must ensure we do everything possible to ensure they are not exploited because of their circumstances.

I hope there will be organisations offering support both to refugees and to people offering accommodation in the case of any difficulties. I do think there should be some attempt at vetting.

Absolutely not unreasonable.

There will undoubtedly be predators and exploiters lining up for this, as well as decent people who want to help.

The stories about the kids who were evacuated from the cities during the war only to find themselves being used as cheap labour or sexually abused, should be borne in mind. Of course host families should be vetted

We have community meets for all our families which stops them being isolated. Also they have buddies outside their host families who they can turn to and have to meet them regularly. The children have after school clubs supervised by non family volunteers. All these things help reduce risks of exploitation. But it needs to be ongoing and visible. We even have police talk to our refugees to try and build some trust in authority. All this helps, but you cannot be 100 perc, unfortunately.

@AchillesPoirot

They are vetting people though?

How on earth do you practically vet this many people to a level of detail sufficient to eliminate risk?

You can conduct criminal records checks, but that's only of any use if they've actually been caught.

How can the refugees possibly be vetted? And yes, agree, its a scheme we can't afford, uk is already in debt and heading for a recession.

@Bananabutter

YABU. Beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s a silly scheme that we can’t afford anyway so no need to add anymore red tape on.

"Beggars" should be able to choose not to be raped. That OK with you?

The charity Refugees at Home were recruiting people who could carry out home suitability checks. They were particularly interested in people who were or had been Social workers, district nurses etc i.e. People who were used to assessing people's homes.