House guest sneakily adding your wifi to their phone is rude yes?

[HDDD]

I mean, I don't mind any guest accessing my wifi BUT at least ask right?

@bonfireheart

It's stealing. Hope you logged it.

@Keepitonthedownlow

*Yup - this, hence 'sneakily'. Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation*

This is obviously the real issue - you're annoyed that your guest wanted to 'surf the net' rather than converse with you! That is a totally different issue.

Yes clearly OP had no intention of giving the password as a grown adult doesn't need it, in her opinion.

Our WiFi password is on a chalk board in the kitchen..... Most networks don't get a signal inside my house.

Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

Oh they probably can live for an evening without and converse with you and all that. But if they are staying overnight they will need Internet access otherwise how can they do the Wordle first thing in the morning?

@5foot5

Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

Oh they probably can live for an evening without and converse with you and all that. But if they are staying overnight they will need Internet access otherwise how can they do the Wordle first thing in the morning?

And Nerdle and Quordle

And complain about their host on MN!

@SprayedWithDettol

If you describe a guest as sneaky (and giving access to WiFi is basic good manners as a host) then I think you have some big problems with either a) your attitude b) your relationship with said guest.

Tbh if you don’t like them I still can’t see why you wouldn’t give them your WiFi code.

This! It costs you nothing.

I don't think it's sneaky at all; it's not costing you anything, it's no more sneaky than helping themselves to a glass of tap water. Why wouldn't you allow your guests to do this without asking first?

Whether they can last a night without wifi or not is a completely different issue to the first complaint

@girlmom21

Imagine being upset about this on the day the government are launching a scheme for people to give refugees a home for 6 months...

OP please don't volunteer for the scheme.

Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

Maybe you're not very interesting company.

Is it me or are people on MN getting more and more crazily antisocial and keen to take offence?

"MIL stayed last week for a night. She didn't help and she STOLE OUR OXYGEN. She used soap in the bathroom. She had a shit in the toilet. She made herself a cup of tea. Bitch, right?"

Agree @HesterShaw1

@5foot5

Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

Oh they probably can live for an evening without and converse with you and all that. But if they are staying overnight they will need Internet access otherwise how can they do the Wordle first thing in the morning?

The real reason the guest wanted the password is so they could update their blog/vlog and comment on the OP's lack of hospitality.

(Actually it is so they could message someone on a messaging app with the message "Help! Get me out of here!")

@HesterShaw1

Is it me or are people on MN getting more and more crazily antisocial and keen to take offence?

"MIL stayed last week for a night. She didn't help and she STOLE OUR OXYGEN. She used soap in the bathroom. She had a shit in the toilet. She made herself a cup of tea. Bitch, right?"

Why the hell did you allow your MIL to stay? Did you DH force you, I bet he did and if I were you I would make him deep clean the house (god knows what dirt and germs MIL has left behind), then I would LTB!

11:08 @Kennykenkencat

PortalooSunset

HDDD
Yup - this, hence 'sneakily'. Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

I mean the easy answer is to keep your password away from your router to avoid issues like this in the future. It's a bit like keeping your PIN with your bank card and then complaining when someone spends your money.

What money. You get charged a monthly amount whether your guest has surfed the internet all night or hasn’t

(apologies, I can't make quote function work)
I didn't mean they'd be literally taking money by using WiFi. I fully realise this isn't the case as most supplies are unlimited these days. It was an (admittedly crap) analogy. OP doesn't want others using their WiFi but leaves the password in an easily accessible place so anyone actually can use it.

On the contrary - I'd be embarrassed at my poor hosting capability and apologise for not offering them the code sooner.

In the days we had overnight guests (pre-covid), we had the wifi code on a piece of paper in the guest bedroom and pointed this out on our guest's arrival. Surely, it just makes for a more comfortable and welcoming stay?

*Are you going to stay with complete strangers who hate you?

I can't think how I might begin to ask a friend or family member "do you mind if I grab myself a glass of water?" or how they might reply. ("What do you mean? Are you OK?")*
Outside of family, yes I would ask along similar lines. I think its rude to just help yourself to things without asking first, apart from when its impractical for e.g. needing a glass of water in the middle of the night.
I would very much start to dislike someone that behaved like that in my home.

It's normal to me I offer it to everyone to save their data
Doesn't make any difference to me, similar to offering a drink or the bathroom

That's really rude of your guest. We actually have a guest WiFi for added security and reassurance that any guest can't alter our settings accidentally. We have the details of that on the fridge and tell people who are staying overnight. Luckily the router is out of sight in a home office so I would hope no one would go hunting for it!

Not rude at all.

You are being unreasonable for using the default password. Security people, it’s important!

You are also beyond unreasonable for worrying about this.

How bizarre that they had to be “sneaky”

Surely it’s just one of the things you mention when overnight guests arrive - “there’s where you’re sleeping, there’s a towel, extra towels are in that cupboard, if for any reason you’re cold there’s extra covers in that cupboard, bathroom there, tea & coffee in that cupboard, help yourself to milk and juice from the fridge, wifi password is there, if you’re moving about in the night mind the cat as she’s black and likes to use the dark to trip people up. Right, wine?”

@CrazylazyJane

I think it's common decency to ask to take anything in someone else's home - "do you mind if I grab myself a glass of water?" Or "would you mind if I grabbed your WiFi password". However, I also think if you don't offer the WiFi password to someone staying over night, then that's also a bit rude as a host and makes it awkward for your guest.

If a guest felt the need to ask me if they could have water I’d feel I’d failed as a host.

I'd say it's similar to using someone's toilet when you're a guest. They're unlikely to say no but you ask them before you go. "Can I just use your toilet" and they tell you where it is. Obviously you don't ask them every time if you're staying over etc.

I'm quite attached to my phone but the only time I have ever asked to connect to someone's wifi is when DD was staying at MIL and it was a bad signal area so I wanted to make sure I could get in touch with her when we had left. It just wouldn't cross my mind otherwise.

@AlisonDonut

Don't tell me they also got a cheeky glass of water from the outside tap and craftily absorbed heat from the radiators without permission?

Shocking behaviour.

😂