To ask what made Jeremy Kyle qualified…

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… to host a talk show, give ‘advice’ and judge people the way he did?

The Channel 4 programme about the show is on and it’s just made me think about it all again!

@WouldIwasShookspeared

Did the programme talk about the lie detector tests and whether they were genuine or the results just made up?

I know lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable anyway.

Even in perfect conditions (i.e. low stress) and carried out by an expert (not a show assistant) a lie detector test is at best 66% accurate. In poor conditions (i.e. high stress), it’s totally unreliable.

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MrsGHarrison87
I feel bad for him. It was the show as a whole that went downhill and potentially contributed to the man's death. There were other people working on that show, but it all fell on him because it's his name.
Exactly this. His name was in the show title but he can't possibly be responsible for the treatment of the guests and what they were supposedly encouraged to do.

Watch the documentary and then decide. He was totally in the driving seat and you see footage of him deliberately goading and winding people up. Vile man.

@wentworthinmate

As a person I think JK is right up himself BUT... he used to tell the benefit scroungers / kids for cash crowd exactly what we were all thinking. I didn't have a problem with that. The man that died already had mental health issues and the fact his suicide was blamed mostly on JK was imo, wrong.

@wentworthinmate - what we were all thinking??!!

I used to be quite judgmental but even I could tell that these people were from certain sectors of society (some of whom were my friends in the past) and to be honest a lot of them either liked drama and would invite this in with police being called etc or they’d stay away from it. Lots of bitching, name calling etc but would all die down etc. Kyle and his cronies made it seem ok to pass judgment on others especially if they’d cheated or shock horror used weed or had an addiction. The way he actually approached it was awful, you could tell they’d been wound up for TV, tv staff obviously dripping poison in others ears so as to make for good tv. I’ll admit me and a few friends would watch and think we’re not as bad as they are but we all felt bad at thinking that and could see they had problems.

The man who died did have mental health issues but hadn’t cheated on his fiancé yet was dragged onto the show and made to take a lie detector test and then berated by Kyle and his fiancé. It’s the modern day bear baiting really or tarring and feathering people when they’d committed adultery.

Everyone involved in this programme and the others need to take a long hard look at themselves. This Morning e.g. that’s targeted at a certain audience and we all laugh if It Philip and Holly appear “drunk” or “hungover” after being at tv awards ceremonies. ITV and their ilk are scum bags, Kyle was cheap tv and got them good ratings and good money for the time it was on.

Just watched both episodes. Utterly depressing. What a disgusting man he is.

He was the front runner . The production team and ITV were the organisers. Not sure why people can’t see that really?

Friends who went to the show report he was lovely with the guests and made sure they were ok and then changed when the camera were rolling. It was an act!

People saying Jerry Springer wasn't as bad because he didn't act like JK, you're all correct except JS audience did all the shouting for him. Not sure which is worse.

Classic JK guest.

@bonfireheart

Haven't watched the documentary, but didn't he host a show on BRMB radio as Jezza? Was always surprised he got picked up for TV.

He did, and there was a chap who called in once that’d burnt his widger on a scalextric track. I often think about that

@wentworthinmate

As a person I think JK is right up himself BUT... he used to tell the benefit scroungers / kids for cash crowd exactly what we were all thinking. I didn't have a problem with that. The man that died already had mental health issues and the fact his suicide was blamed mostly on JK was imo, wrong.

Then man who died specifically blamed the show himself judging by his texts. If it was all based on the lie detector and he really hadn't been cheating then hard to see why it's not the shows fault. We don't know what JK was saying/shouting to him but we can take a good guess. It probably tipped him over the edge.

He is awful. I once had the misfortune of seeing him at a university event when he worked for brmb. He was a smug creep then.

There a lots of people on that show that should be feeling very guilty though. Not just him. It was awful and I wouldn't watch it.

The BRMB show was cancelled after it came out that he'd faked that suicidial caller on the bridge.

It showed him shouting c'mere to someone and I honestly thought he was shouting to a dog and the look of contempt on his face was terrible and I think it was a member of staff.

@ImNotShpanishImEgyptshun omg really?! Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread and said he stopped his radio show to go help this guy. Made him seem like he could be a nice person occasionally.

The Jeremy Kyle show attracted massive audiences and the tv company made lots of money presumably, Jeremy Kyle is no more responsible than theTV executives who encouraged his line of questioning and those people who who wanted to be on TV chose that too

Actually, I've just looked into it and it was his successor at BRMB, Tim Shaw, who did the fake call and got cancelled. I could have sworn it was Jeremy! Happy to set the record straight, as they say.

BRMB was a pretty dodgy radio station, did some really weird promotions. People ended up in hospital from sitting on dry ice to win things.

Didn’t Kyle do a ‘married at first sight’ type contest on BRMB where two strangers had to get married? And he then ran off with the bride shortly afterwards and she became his second wife!

@ImNotShpanishImEgyptshun

The BRMB show was cancelled after it came out that he'd faked that suicidial caller on the bridge.

Wow! No way

Ok just seen the update

I've seen it mentioned all the way through the thread but what is BRMB?

@wentworthinmate

Classic JK guest.

Omg, this was the family who started a fire at their home and accidentally killed 6 of their children!

I've now watched both episodes, horrific in parts. I have nothing but sympathy for the guests having seen that (bar Philpot of course) , some of them probably aren't particularly nice people, which I guess just made them easier to bait..

Damian Collins MP came over as a decent man though.

@GrandTheftWalrus

I've seen it mentioned all the way through the thread but what is BRMB?

It was a radio station in Birmingham.

Was the source of many a Brummie teenager mixed tapes with the top 40.

Ah I'm in Scotland so that'll be why I haven't heard of it.

@Annoyedtoomuch

Graham was NOT a psychologist. He had some therapy training. Clearly zero scruples though.

Jeremy Kyle was so judgemental about people and the mistakes they made yet ran off with the nanny. Hypocritical and vile man. The documentary really shows him for what he is.

Re Graham: yes not a psychologist, but a self styled”consultant psychotherapist”

Unless there are lots of therapists with the same name I can only find a meaningless therapy qualification from some Micky Mouse training college. I think he might have been a MH Nurse originally but I can’t see any evidence of therapy or counselling training and accreditation with any proper professional body.

It’s therefore not so surprising he chose to get involved with the JK show and turn a blind eye to what went on, as I doubt he had any real concept of Risk and the ethics of manipulating people into further mental distress.

I sat in the audience once … my hairdresser was a fan and begged me to go along with her. The majority of the production crew were Jeremy Kyle’s family and in-laws. Weirdly we were warned by him that the guests were real people, that this was their real lives and to understand that and be compassionate. It was filmed in one take.