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To ask what made Jeremy Kyle qualified…

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ClandestineAdulation · 13/03/2022 21:09

… to host a talk show, give ‘advice’ and judge people the way he did?

The Channel 4 programme about the show is on and it’s just made me think about it all again!

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Poodles23 · 15/03/2022 18:10

I agree

Sanderton · 15/03/2022 18:12

To be a chartered psychologist you have to jump through many hoops, and years of training to become chartered. You are then registered with the health professional council and BPS. As a chartered psychologist myself it annoys me how easy it is for people to present as being this qualified, and potentially harmful for people who they consult.

ldontWanna · 15/03/2022 18:13

Everyone keeps saying Jerry Springer had actors. Is there a link to this?

Especially considering there was a legal case because a lot of the security staff were also policemen and they failed to press charges, a couple that was on the show was accused and then convicted of the murder of another guest and the suicide of another guest (that's just the bare minimum "controversies ") why are people so confident that it was all actors? I genuinely want to know.

Gonnagetgoing · 15/03/2022 18:16

@Dnaltocs

I’m confused. All the folk on the show asked to be there. No one was forced on the show. No one was forced to work on the show. Yet now they complain. The audience viewing figures were huge, massive viewing numbers. If the numbers were low it would have been cancelled. Now everyone seems to be against the programme that was a ‘show’ Those staff who now speak out, didn’t leave the show or speak out at the time. I’m still confused.
@Dnaltocs - so why now have there been enquiries into the show following someone committing suicide? You could see that the ex GF of this man wasn’t the brightest woman out there and most of the people who appeared and watched the show weren’t that bright and easily swayed by 15 minutes of fame. I think many of them had learning difficulties so easy to take advantage of, plus many were addicts too.

Why has ITV now changed its guidelines re care/duty of care since the suicide drama and Love Island issues?

Oh and why did the MP chair an enquiry if it was all so great?

Takingshape12 · 15/03/2022 18:18

@MrsGHarrison87

I feel bad for him. It was the show as a whole that went downhill and potentially contributed to the man's death. There were other people working on that show, but it all fell on him because it's his name.
Exactly this. His name was in the show title but he can't possibly be responsible for the treatment of the guests and what they were supposedly encouraged to do.
UKRAINEwearewithyou · 15/03/2022 18:20

It was bear baiting. Wind people up and step back and watch and call it entertainment.

The chap committed suicide and then a producer on the show who lost her job also killed herself for multifactual reasons. Maybe she was ashamed of how the show treated people some with mental health problems and some obviously had learning disabilities.

The statement that the 'country should hang heads in collective shame' was quite ridiculous. It was a along the lines of Big Brother, set people up, make look stupid and some come out ok and some don't. The trash tv including J Kyle, Big Brother, Love Island etc is all for people who love to watch others and often watch others mess up. Odd really, self esteem problems if you enjoy watching others fail/act stupid etc. Love Island also has a suicide connection.

Nocutenamesleft · 15/03/2022 19:01

A lady I knew was on the show

She died a horrible death and they still play the episode. I’ve explained it and they won’t listen to me
He’s a vile man who gets everything he tucking deserves.

The lady I knew wasn’t an angel. But she was actually an incredibly sweet person who tried. I know her sister. But she can’t rest even in death.

ThreeRingCircus · 15/03/2022 19:18

I knew someone who was convinced to go on the show under false pretences, when he got there though it turned out it was so he could be told the child he'd raised actually wasn't his. He was heartbroken, it devastated his family.

This is what shocked me about the programme. I did watch it occasionally, mainly when I was on maternity leave but I always thought the people on the show knew what they were getting into and had signed up for, they just wanted 15 minutes of fame etc.

The documentary really shocked me to be honest revealing that people were lied to in order to appear on the show. Constantly called harassing them to appear, telling that poor man his estranged wife wanted to publicly apologise to him when that wasn't true, deliberately winding them up by making up bullshit things that the other side had apparently said. It's an immoral way to treat people and I agree that the whole production team, ITV and Jeremy Kyle should be ashamed.

Gonnagetgoing · 15/03/2022 19:26

@ThreeRingCircus exactly, people were harassed to go on there.

I knew some friends who were sort of on the same level as the Kyle contestants (one now owns her own beauty salon and her son graduated from uni with a 2.0 degree)

Gonnagetgoing · 15/03/2022 19:29

Oops my friend well I’d be round her house with her mates and occasionally if there was drama in their lives they’d say oh they should go on the show but most people weren’t that stupid, could see that Kyle and the show were taking advantage of them and knew it wasn’t worth the money or hotel stay promised.

A lot of the people the show had on I’m sorry they were disadvantaged and from low income or benefits families. No educated middle upper classes there!

milkysmum · 15/03/2022 19:35

I knew a mental health nurse who worked as part of the team on the show. She was adamant the show was credible and was able to offer people after care support that they were unable to get on the NHS.

milkysmum · 15/03/2022 19:36

I'm not saying a agree with what she said I might add, but that was her take on it during her employment.

law050465 · 15/03/2022 19:36

And the great british public actually watched this dreadful program 🤷🏼‍♀️

Spudina · 15/03/2022 19:39

The story of the guy who was accused of stealing a bracelet was heartbreaking. He obviously hadn’t, you could tell by his reaction and it ruined his life. The lie detector was 66% accurate, yet JK would shout in their faces when it ‘showed’ hey had lied.
If they worked the criminal justice system would use them. They obviously don’t.

StargazerAli · 15/03/2022 19:44

It was always trash TV. I never understood how people could watch it and revel in the degradation of the poor sods who had their lives dragged through the mud. JK was an utter disgrace but I'm sure he wasn't alone and that there are many co-producers and behind-the-scene workers who should hang their heads in shame.

x2boys · 15/03/2022 20:19

@milkysmum

I knew a mental health nurse who worked as part of the team on the show. She was adamant the show was credible and was able to offer people after care support that they were unable to get on the NHS.
I find that hard to beleive tbh ,I used to be a mental health nurse and worked for a huge mental health trust in Manchester,these maybe rumours but the bespoke specialist care from what I heard was staff getting patients into NHS inpatient care for addiction which would already be available to thenm ( although there would be a wait) Maybe your friend had extensive experience but I doubt everybody did
AnnieSnap · 15/03/2022 20:23

@MrsGHarrison87

I feel bad for him. It was the show as a whole that went downhill and potentially contributed to the man's death. There were other people working on that show, but it all fell on him because it's his name.
Did you watch the (two part) documentary? Did you see how he verbally abused people, not just on stage, but in the corridors back stage?
AnnieSnap · 15/03/2022 20:31

@Georgeskitchen

Yes I believe Graham is actually a psychologist. Not sure what outcomes he had helping the people who came on the show!!
Graham isn’t a Psychologist. He’s a Therapist. Some Psychologists are Therapists, but not all Therapists are Psychologists. I don’t know what his qualifications are, but he is not a trained Psychologist. It appears he was employed so the show could claim to be meeting their duty of care to guests, but in the footage I saw in part two of the documentary - filmed behind the scenes by the whistle blowing cameraman, showed him apparently taking the money and keeping quiet. It was disgraceful and shameful.
mummabubs · 15/03/2022 20:32

And as I mentioned upthread I know first hand that people were often offered one or two sessions and then turfed into the NHS anyway. I imagine most of the people on here would have really benefitted from long term systemic family therapy. It feels really unethical to unpack it all (aggressively) in front of cameras and then just discard families with all of the issues freshly turfed up.

mummabubs · 15/03/2022 20:34

Urgh, quote not working on android again! My post was in reference to the poster whose friend was involved and felt that participants were given care above and beyond the what the NHS could provide.

x2boys · 15/03/2022 20:36

Also if Graham was so reputable
Where was his professional integrity when he saw Jeremy abusing vulnerable people ?
He could have stood up to him but what I saw he took a back seat whilst basking in his "Genius" status

AnnieSnap · 15/03/2022 21:00

@sst1234

This thread and all the outrage here smells of hypocrisy because everyone commenting loved watching the show and many others like it. And now are being all virtuous slagging it off. No one forced people to appear on the show and no one forced you to watch it.
Actually, I have the impression that most people here did not watch it (including me) because they found it disgusting. You would have had to live on a different planet to never have seen bits of it. That isn’t the same as choosing to watch it.
wentworthinmate · 15/03/2022 21:28

As a person I think JK is right up himself BUT... he used to tell the benefit scroungers / kids for cash crowd exactly what we were all thinking. I didn't have a problem with that.
The man that died already had mental health issues and the fact his suicide was blamed mostly on JK was imo, wrong.

Annoyedtoomuch · 15/03/2022 21:30

Graham was NOT a psychologist. He had some therapy training. Clearly zero scruples though.

Jeremy Kyle was so judgemental about people and the mistakes they made yet ran off with the nanny. Hypocritical and vile man. The documentary really shows him for what he is.

Annoyedtoomuch · 15/03/2022 21:32

wentworthinmate

Watch the documentary. They mislead and goaded people. Manipulated them. Lied to them. It truly is dreadful.