To ask what made Jeremy Kyle qualified…

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… to host a talk show, give ‘advice’ and judge people the way he did?

The Channel 4 programme about the show is on and it’s just made me think about it all again!

Yet TalkRadio now employ Jeremy Kyle to talk to members of the public.

I've just watched both parts of the documentary and it was a big a pile of rubbish as the show.
It offered nothing that we don't already know, and nothing that isn't already out there in the public domain.

So I watched both parts of that show. The man makes my blood boil-didn't even turn up to that committee (or whatever it was) let Graham and the producer take all the blame. Was free to shout everyone down about their lives for all those years and then the coward doesn't want to answer any questions himself and dodges it. He was the one who was horrible to guests, the one that made such a big deal of it being his name on the wall and acted all superior with his "I'd walk over hot coals to see my kids". No one forced him to call people pathetic, a disgrace, loser, basically all that would come out of his mouth and worse. The last thing people need in the grips of addiction is to be yelled at about their pathetic life.

Besides all that he loved the lie detector shows , basing everything around the results when even if they only fail 1% of the time renders them completely useless.

@mummabubs I used to be a mental health nurse ,I would absolutely not be qualified in providing long term therapeutic care ,i used to work on the acute wards and it was more of a fire fighting role and managing crisis
If the three nurses had worked in A&E in a crisis team they would basically be doing what it says on the tin seeing people in crisis ,they wouldn't be developing long term therapeutic relationship,s
Even CPN,s in today's climate are trying to prevent their patients mental health from deteriating so much they need hospital admissions
They will have experience in carrying out mental health assessment,s
Unless they have extra training or worked for years with people with long term drug/ alcohol problems
Then they have a huge responsibility,assuming they still hold their NMC registration they would still have to adhere to the condition,s of registration 🤔

I've never felt so angry listening to him humiliating Kirstie, addicts are victims, now happy functioning person would waste their time on drugs, it's a 24 hour job of misery.
I know she stole cash from innocent people, addiction brings desperation.
For that show alone he deserves everything he is getting.
Her poor DM.

The guests were called nuts and sluts by the tv team.

Does anyone else think there must be someone (or multiple people) at ITV / in the industry who really don’t want JK getting back on Tele?( (Releasing outtakes of him being a massive prick and a sleaze for the documentary for eg)

I think they are probably covering their own backsides tbh
I don't disagree Jeremy Kyle was utterly vile,but he was allowed to do and say what wanted ,whilst his ego got bigger and bigger

@x2boys

I think they are probably covering their own backsides tbh I don't disagree Jeremy Kyle was utterly vile,but he was allowed to do and say what wanted ,whilst his ego got bigger and bigger

Exactly. It was a completely systemic problem right from the top producers down to the public who used to tune in. Whilst the proportion of blame may be different at each level, all played a part in creating and sustaining the monster that was that show.

He is vile, however everyone involved in that show has blood on their hands, and that includes the people who appeared on the documentary talking about how things worked behind the scenes. They were all there willingly. If any of them disagreed with how the show was being run they could have left and gone to work in Sainsburys. Or does getting into television mean that you don’t care what amoral shows you’re involved in?

People complaining that they weren’t mental health advisers but they regularly took calls from people saying they were going to end their lives, what did they do about it? Nothing.

And that girl at the end who predicted which producer was going to end her life when it was all over, and then claimed she was so upset about it, couldn’t have pictures of her up etc etc. If she knew how vulnerable she was why did she not support her while the show was running, rather than predicting her death and then claiming victim status over it?

And graham, he actually said very little, I’d imagine if he is registered with the BACPD they could presumably remove his registration.

The list goes on, but the accountability definitely doesn’t stop with Jeremy Kyle, he was the end product, but there were a lot of cogs which made him tick.

On one episode a young woman, I guess in her early twenties, appeared. She had had a child when a young teenager and had made some poor choices including getting into a car being driven by a drunk. The car crashed and her child had a broken leg. Despite her repeated admission she had been extremely foolish JK just screamed in her face that she wasn't fit to be a mother. I can even recall what the situation was that got her on the show because all JK did was drag the conversation (if you can call it that) back to her getting in that car...
When I told my DP he remarked if anyone bullied a child of his in those circumstances they'd get a smack.
I would sometime daydream that my DP and I would act like the sort of guest they wanted and turn the tables on him - they never let anyone who might show him up anywhere near the stage.
As for the researchers I can understand they're reluctant to speak out. TV is a very small pond and does somewhat exploit the eagerness of young staff and word would quickly get around - the fact that no older researchers, who are now out of the business, have come forward suggests they avoided using older more experience staff.

The real people (including Kyle and Tom and Lucy McLennan) should be held responsible.

I do feel a bit sorry for the workers as it seemed they were under a lot of pressure and wanted to make it in TV.

The McLennans and Kyle have basically got away with this with not much of a blemish and even bloody Piers Morgan has defended the show!

People like Trisha Goddard also aren’t any better as her show also did lie detector tests yet she’s also blameless.

Of course there are new guidelines for TV guests on reality shows re aftercare now.

My old hairdresser was filmed for a reality tv show on hairdressing years ago and wishes she’d never agreed to it, said it was very intrusive.

Tbf Trisha Goddard wasn't vile with her guests lots of American shows do lie detector tests ,I have always been sceptical about the accuracy ,otherwise they could be used as evidence in American courts and they are inadmissible for a reason,it was cheap TV and in Trisha,s day and in the early days of the JK show it was easy watching

I know a few people who went on the jk show (in a professional capacity) they had some issues but they were totally wound up by the producers and encouraged to make it "juicy"

He's nothing but a bully, shouting in people's faces and trying to provoke a reaction - all while protected by burly security guards of course

I always remember seeing a lie detector episode with my DH and commenting on the 97% accuracy. So for every 100 people they did at least 3 might have been branded as liars while being totally innocent. Then to have the added indignity of having jk in their face shouting sad excuse for a human being, pathetic liar wouldn't trust you with a chocolate button etc - real lives and relationships were ruined based on this nonsense and its not even accurate.

@x2boys

Tbf Trisha Goddard wasn't vile with her guests lots of American shows do lie detector tests ,I have always been sceptical about the accuracy ,otherwise they could be used as evidence in American courts and they are inadmissible for a reason,it was cheap TV and in Trisha,s day and in the early days of the JK show it was easy watching

@x2boys - but didn't Trisha have actors on her shows or was that someone else?

The lie detector tests though they may be admissible in American courts, they aren't here in UK.

To be honest - a few times I watched Kyle and was shocked by how many times people had failed the lie detector test when they seemed truthful. The DNA bits were different because I think they were more clear cut as to who was a father etc,

Was that not Jerry springer who had actors 🤔

It was Jerry Springer who had actors. They mentioned it last night and said that because the law is different over here you can’t use actors and so the actual participants had to be wound up to the extent they fought and cried etc.

It's not the type of show I would watch normally although I think I did see the episode with the Philpotts in. Basically I felt that it was exploitation of people, winding them up for entertainment.

Ok it was Springer who had actors. This is very telling from this year re Goddard:-

newshk.org/trisha-goddard-was-reluctant-to-revive-the-iconic-title-talk-show/

He was a radio DJ on BRMB (as Jezza) in the Midlands - he was the DJ hosting the ‘marry a stranger’ thing they did, where afterwards the ‘couple’ split and Jeremy Kyle married the wife. He’s always been a tosser. Apologies if all of this has been mentioned, I’ve not read all the pages of the thread.

I also know of a family who went on twice; as previously mentioned, they were given an open bar and a night in the hotel, encouraged to get wasted, and then provoked into exploding on set the next day. A friend of mine taught one of the children. Everything like it is shambolic, and they should all bear the brunt of it - presenters, executives, ‘professionals’, and whoever else was involved.

I’m confused. All the folk on the show asked to be there.

No one was forced on the show. No one was forced to work on the show. Yet now they complain.

The audience viewing figures were huge, massive viewing numbers. If the numbers were low it would have been cancelled.
Now everyone seems to be against the programme that was a ‘show’
Those staff who now speak out, didn’t leave the show or speak out at the time.
I’m still confused.

There's no evidence of Graham being a registered psychologist, he is not on any of the registers so not sure what his background actually is, unless he has retired. Pretty sure no ethical psychologist would continue to involve themselves in such bear baiting

@Dnaltocs you’re soooo confused

Graham's background is a mental health nurse, not a chartered psychologist at all, explains a lot

@Sanderton

There's no evidence of Graham being a registered psychologist, he is not on any of the registers so not sure what his background actually is, unless he has retired. Pretty sure no ethical psychologist would continue to involve themselves in such bear baiting

I think someone said upthread he was a nurse who did a masters in ... something or other.... but the consultant psychotherapist title is a made up, non-regulated title, and anyone can be a therapist whether qualified and/or registered with a body or not.