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Original poster

To be annoyed this girl is going to lie to get a council place?

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:00

This girl i know who is 20yrs old is pregnant. She currantly lives at home with her parents and her boyfriend lives with his parents.

The plan is she is going to move in with her boyfriend at his parents house then they are going to make out his parents are kicking them out so they will get a council place. Both their parents are in on this.

Does this not make your blood boil?

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karen999 · 04/01/2008 22:02

Do the couple have jobs?

chankins · 04/01/2008 22:03

Yes, it does, why don't they find a place to rent that takes housing benfit, and apply for that ?
We've been on housing list for 5 years, have 3 dc, and we both work. Why can't other people do the same ? Its just queue jumping!

Divastrop · 04/01/2008 22:04

no.they will need their own place,wont they?anyway,its not techncially lying as im sure the parents wont want them living there with a baby.

amytheearwaxbanisher · 04/01/2008 22:04

they will probably just place them in a bedsit anyway

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:05

Yes they do. She works for my dp in his shop full time and he does building work.

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PussinJimmyChoos · 04/01/2008 22:06

Maybe they cannot afford to buy or even rent? The housing market is getting ridiculous these days with so many people being priced out

chankins · 04/01/2008 22:07

They probably won't get one then, will they ? Won't they just get given a list of landlords ? I would be confused if they did get one. They are not young kids, they both work, so where is the need ??

Divastrop · 04/01/2008 22:09

i cant see how it will work personally,if there is along waiting list then surely they would just be put in a B+B or whatever anyway.i would have thought it preferable to stay at the parents' house and do it properly.

MrsKittylette · 04/01/2008 22:10

They will get one ... in about 5 years.

My sister IS going to be homeless, she really is in the situation you described and they told her TOUGH, go to the 'homeless familys' and live in a refuse, you will get a house when your son (who is 8 months old) is about 6

So its very unlikey her 'plan' will work anyways.

MrsKittylette · 04/01/2008 22:11

refuge lol

bookwormmum · 04/01/2008 22:15

As a couple they're unlikely to get a house. If she applied in her own right, she would have a better chance.
If you feel about it that strongly then maybe you should say something to her about it? Unfortunately a lot of people do try and abuse the system.

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:15

Sorry to hear that MrsKittylette, it makes me mad because there are people out there like your sister who are genuine and need the housing. This girl and her boyfriend both work so therefore could afford something, even if it's only temp while they go on the list.

She is bragging about whats she's going to get for her new home etc and has said she cannot wait to leave work because it is going to be so "fun and easy!"

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2mum · 04/01/2008 22:15

It doesnt make my blood boil. They both work so will have to pay rent anyway. They are just getting their feet on the ground and into their own place and if this works then good luck to them.

DavidTennantsMistress · 04/01/2008 22:15

it does - esp as DS and I can't get anything literally. were deemed as 'wanting to move' er no we're being evicted actually in about 3 weeks time. the only way we've got a house sorted out is by stretching everything to the max and my parents helping us out a lot. the chappy at the council said i'd be looking at 2 years min (and i'm not prepared to stop in a hostle for 2 years with DS) so will do what I must.

also I know of a woman who lives in a 3 bed house wiht her parents 2 siblings and has a toddler - the council said to her she needed to 'increase her area' to live in - ie other councils, because basically their house wasn't over crowded so she was bottom of the pile. - and this was a girl who would live literatly anywhere.

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:17

Forgot to mention she is going to say her and her boyfriend have split up so she is a single mum, then i bet she will move him in.

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shoshe · 04/01/2008 22:18

Depends where you live, in some places sh ewoul dget one, where I live the waiting list is not very long, but agree she would probably get one easier as a single parent which is what seems to happen here.

micegg · 04/01/2008 22:18

My neice had a baby at 16 and lived with SIL and her new husband for the first 3 years. After getting no where on the council list they declared her homeless as this was the only way to get further up the ladder. The upshot she has just been given a very grotty 2 bed council flat after having to live in B&B and various other temporray places for the last 4 years. She doesnt have a partner and has never worked (now nearly 24) so is probably about as high priority as you can get. Sounds like their plan wont work as well as they would imagine.

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:20

She isn't planning on coming back to work after the maternity leave is up.

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expatinscotland · 04/01/2008 22:21

the council housing in most cities here is absolutely dire and i pity people who are forced to live in those holes.

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MsSparkle · 04/01/2008 22:22

She already lives on a council estate with her parents (the parents may own it, i'm not sure.)

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inthegutter · 04/01/2008 22:23

If she's planning to lie about being a single parent and then move her bf in, then I would have thought she's on dodgy ground and could end up in deep shit. Having said that, if this country didn't have such a bloody unfair system, people wouldnt be encouraged to lie about it. But whatever way you look at it, they're taking the piss out of the system and it's a kick in the teeth for hardworking parents who stay together and try to do the best for their kids.

Divastrop · 04/01/2008 22:25

ah now that is taking the piss slightly.just remember that the benefits agency (or whatever its called this week)will be onto her like a shot if shes going to claim as a single mum whilst she is pregnant.also,if she is telling all and sundry this then she is bound to get found out.

she sounds deluded anyway if she thinks being a mum is going to be easy

the council waiting list up where i am used to be very short,and if you were prepared to accept a house in a 'dodgey' area you didnt have to wait atall.i donthtink thats the case now.

dt's mistress-have you tied housing asscociations?

sweetkitty · 04/01/2008 22:26

Yes makes my blood boil but wait until you all hear about my 17 year old neice.

6 months ago when she was 16 she had a few disagreements with her Mum, basically she wanted to go out and get drunk with her friends her Mum said well be home by say 12 as I don't sleep until you are in and we have an early day ahead of us tomorrow (my DD1's borthday party) anyway SIL went out and came back to find neices key through the door.

She went and lived on friends sofas for a few months then phoned Social Services to say she was homeless and needed somewhere to stay, they put her in a homeless hostel at first now she had been moved to a fully furnished new 1 bed flat. She doesn't pay full rent or anything as she only worls p/t in a cafe nor will she want to get a job as she knows she will have to find her own accomodation.

SIL had to sign a form declaring that she threw neice out and that she wasn't welcome home anymore (not the truth btw) so neice could continue to love there.

So if your a teenager and don't want to live by your parents rules, tell social work you have been thrown out and are homeless and get a nice flat!

When I hear of women with children that are staying in B&B's or grotty flats and that little selfish madam has a flat to herself it makes my blood boil, sorry am off on one tonight!

expatinscotland · 04/01/2008 22:28

the list in the city we left, ediinburgh, was so long the council is paying private landlords £550+/month of the use of their flats as temporary accommodation.

it could be years before a homeless person is permanently housed there.

totally depends on the area she's in.

DavidTennantsMistress · 04/01/2008 22:30

yep - they all go to my local councils - and given that i'm a snob (read that as don't want my child to live in a high rise flat with pee in the lifts and drug needles laying about) - not that they're all that bad I know. i've opted for the pte rent option, and tbh if it means working 2 jobs (one at night and one on the weekend or something or one at home during the day and one on a night) then it's what i'll have to do - (along with HB) to keep a semi decent roof over our heads - althou my parents would have me back to live with them - if we went down that option i'd never get anywhere as they have a big 3 bed house and only 2 adults.

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