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to think that we have a chance in Eurovision this year

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Polyanthus2 · 10/03/2022 18:46

news.sky.com/story/eurovision-tiktok-singing-sensation-sam-ryder-will-perform-for-uk-with-track-space-man-12562140

Good looking and a good voice - I'm not on tiktok so this singer is new to me!
Even the song seems ok!

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Liv999 · 12/03/2022 11:58

@CuteOrangeElephant

I voted for Lithuania last year because their song was so catchy.
I loved the Lithuanian entry last year, definitely should have won!
debbrianna · 12/03/2022 11:59

Great song. I actually watched it to the end

shockthemonkey · 12/03/2022 12:07

There'll always been plenty of reasons to give us "nul points". Too high-pitched, too melodious, too soft, hair too long... whatever

nosyupnorth · 12/03/2022 12:11

We're going to come dead last again, and not just for the politics. The singer they've picked may be talented but he's also utterly boring - eurovision is about fun and flashy, everyone remembers the wild outfits and dramatic specially effects, one beardy bland bloke just standing there singing a song like a busker is utterly forgettable. We make this 'mistake' every year because the people in charge are too uptight and worried about looking silly to get into the spirit of things.

Liv999 · 12/03/2022 12:21

I'm Irish and nobody votes for us anymore either, in fact we're lucky to make it out of the semis, I dont believe its political at all, as far as I know we haven't rubbed anyone up the wrong way in the last twenty years, we just consistently send shit songs year after year, this year being no different Hmm

SwedishEdith · 12/03/2022 12:22

Just watched last year's UK entry again - it really was absolutely dire. I've had this year's as an earworm for the last few days though.

StColumbofNavron · 12/03/2022 12:37

I actually think this is the wrong way to look at it. Each country can only give a total 10 countries points, so that means 16 won’t get anything. 🤷🏻‍♀️

CapMarvel · 12/03/2022 12:38

@SapatSea

We could send along Ed Sheeran and Adele and still poll last!
For good reason, given they are both fucking dreadful.
StCharlotte · 12/03/2022 12:42

Enters fray...

I've been to Eurovision three times and will be in Italy for this year's. Curiously the UK is always very popular "on the ground" (even Gemini was popular in the clubs in Riga that year even after the event) but the staging and performances* obviously don't translate to TV.

(*ignoring Gemini obviously!)

I think our entry is okay and from what I've heard of the competition so far (several national finals happening tonight) it's better than many.

Although I've predicted many winners over the years (even correctly predicted the top five one year!), I wouldn't claim to be an expert and I've clearly lost my touch because I'm fucked if I know why Italy won last year Grin

It's not a stretch to guess if Ukraine are there they will win.

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StCharlotte · 12/03/2022 12:45

@Liv999

I'm Irish and nobody votes for us anymore either, in fact we're lucky to make it out of the semis, I dont believe its political at all, as far as I know we haven't rubbed anyone up the wrong way in the last twenty years, we just consistently send shit songs year after year, this year being no different Hmm
Just seen it - God it really is awful isn't it?
ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 12/03/2022 13:04

No chance. I don't think we'll get nul points but we'll be on the right side of the leaderboard with this.

LondonDadToBe · 12/03/2022 13:20

@nosyupnorth

We're going to come dead last again, and not just for the politics. The singer they've picked may be talented but he's also utterly boring - eurovision is about fun and flashy, everyone remembers the wild outfits and dramatic specially effects, one beardy bland bloke just standing there singing a song like a busker is utterly forgettable. We make this 'mistake' every year because the people in charge are too uptight and worried about looking silly to get into the spirit of things.
What - ‘fun and flashy’ like the Netherlands winning entry in 2019, or Portugals winning entry in 2017, or Ukraine’s winning entry in 2016?

Or France’s entry last year which came second?

Or Switzerland’s which came third?

Or Italy’s entry this year which is one of the early favourites?

If people dropped this idea that songs only do well in Eurovision if they are ‘fun and flashy’ people might have a more realistic view about why the UK has done so poorly.

I think the UK will do pretty well - not win probably because there are better songs - because they have a song with a great, simple hook on the chorus, an artist who sounds like he has excellent live vocals, and a song that lends itself to great, simple but visually effective staging. It reminds me a lot of Netherlands in 2019 actually.

annonymousse · 12/03/2022 13:27

It's all political. Doesn't matter how good our song is we won't win. And even more now due to our governments (lack of) action with Ukrainian refugees

CharacterForming · 12/03/2022 13:36

So right LondonDad.

The "we need to send something lively and upbeat to Eurovision, Adele wouldn't do well because her songs are too dirge-like" is the most risible comment I keep seeing from people in the UK who don't actually know anything about Eurovision but insist on favouring us with our opinion anyway. Only marginally less annoying than "it's not about the songs".

Liv999 · 12/03/2022 13:42

Dreadful

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 12/03/2022 13:43

Haha it has very little to do with the actual song. Everyone hates us!

Oysterbabe · 12/03/2022 13:43

We don't have a chance but he's hot and I don't hate it.

Oysterbabe · 12/03/2022 13:46

But also I couldn't care less where we come, I just love the whole thing irrespective of that. Silly fun.

AdoptedBumpkin · 12/03/2022 13:47

We won't win again for a long time due to block voting and being widely unpopular as a nation.

AdoptedBumpkin · 12/03/2022 13:48

I could see Ukraine winning with sympathy votes this year if they enter.

LondonDadToBe · 12/03/2022 13:56

@annonymousse

It's all political. Doesn't matter how good our song is we won't win. And even more now due to our governments (lack of) action with Ukrainian refugees
So what political wins did Italy have last year that meant they won?

Or indeed, why do you think Israel of all countries because so popular in 2018 that they won?

Or how about Portugal in 2017? Portugal had never won before in several decades of trying - so they must have been pretty politically unpopular and then suddenly became politically popular in 2017 - what explains their sudden, out of the blue, political popularity?

Or Austria? A country that had only one once before in 1966, suddenly winning in 2014. What explained their sudden surge in political popularity?

CharacterForming · 12/03/2022 14:00

And nobody has yet explained to me why everyone hates Spain so much to make them finish bottom five for year after year after year. Is it anti-Francoists with very long memories?

CliffsofMohair · 12/03/2022 14:04

@SheldonsStainedSpot

Ah booo, it’s not all political. We don’t win because we never promote the song. The year we did actually promote it all over Europe, we came fifth. That’s a good result. Nowadays the first time most of Europe hears our song is on the actual night. Meanwhile other songs are hitting the charts in other countries weeks before the final.
This is true. You had a brilliant song a few years ago with Mollie and Children of the Universe. Should have done much better if it had been promoted and Brexit
StColumbofNavron · 12/03/2022 14:06

[quote StCharlotte]Enters fray...

I've been to Eurovision three times and will be in Italy for this year's. Curiously the UK is always very popular "on the ground" (even Gemini was popular in the clubs in Riga that year even after the event) but the staging and performances* obviously don't translate to TV.

(*ignoring Gemini obviously!)

I think our entry is okay and from what I've heard of the competition so far (several national finals happening tonight) it's better than many.

Although I've predicted many winners over the years (even correctly predicted the top five one year!), I wouldn't claim to be an expert and I've clearly lost my touch because I'm fucked if I know why Italy won last year Grin

It's not a stretch to guess if Ukraine are there they will win.

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Every year I say I will go and I just have not yet. If you have the time can you give us a breakdown of how we go about this - is there a particular time tickets are released, do they sell out, how far in advance do you plan? What else do you need to plan other than hotel, flight and ticket. I really really want to do it.

CliffsofMohair · 12/03/2022 14:06

@Liv999

I'm Irish and nobody votes for us anymore either, in fact we're lucky to make it out of the semis, I dont believe its political at all, as far as I know we haven't rubbed anyone up the wrong way in the last twenty years, we just consistently send shit songs year after year, this year being no different Hmm
Our highest placer in the past twenty years has been Jedward.
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