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To make a historic complain. Trigger warning: abortion

66 replies

kindredsp · 10/03/2022 13:09

Hi guys,
Just looking for a bit of advice please. I fell pregnant unexpectedly (told I couldn't have children so we eased our contraception) when I was 25. I was not long out of University and I had just started my first job in my new career. I didn't live with my boyfriend, he was still studying for his Masters Degree and I was house sharing with friends in a different city.

It came as a huge shock, we literally weren't in a position to have a baby and we just didn't know what the right course of action was for us. So I booked an appointment with my GP to go and talk it through with them with my boyfriend in tow, and hopefully get some information to help us.
At the appointment the GP refused to talk to us about it, she told me that most people have unplanned babies and that we just needed to get on with it, and in 10 years time we'd look back and be glad we kept the baby. I explained that I had only just started a job and my boyfriend had no job because he was still studying full time, and she waved it away and said in 10 years time we'd financially be fine and what a ridiculous reason not to have a baby. She looked me in the eye and said, I won't support an abortion.

It was a small rural practice and she didn't offer to let me see another GP who might not be so opinionated (I didn't even know that was an option) and we walked away with a feeling of embarrassment and tails between our legs. I literally felt that I'd been told off by a parent and I felt ashamed of myself for being so selfish. We looked at each other and said "I guess we're keeping it then." We had no idea there was other support we could access ourselves, she didn't tell us anything.
Now our son is now a strapping 11 year old and of course I wouldn't be without him, but cannot also deny that this last decade has been extremely difficult for us. We were not financially viable for years and without the help of our families we quite frankly wouldn't have been able to meet all our financial needs and put food on the table.

My boyfriend and I moved in together just before our son was born. He still had no job so I had just 2 months off before returning to work. I didn't qualify for MAT leave because I fell pregnant too early into the job, so I missed out on much of that precious time which I feel really sad about even now. The stresses and strains of raising a child in a situation where no matter what you do, it's not enough money wise is definitely not the way I wanted to raise a child.

Now I want to make it very clear, I don't regret having him. Even if 11/12 years on, we are still struggling and we're not looking back and laughing at the past. But I now realise how horrifically we were treated by the GP. I'm wondering if I should look into making a formal complain. I'm not looking for compensation, that would devalue my son's existence, but just to make some noise to ensure that another couple who naively go to talk to their GP are treated fairly and impartially, and given all the options and information available before making an informed choice.

If I was to make a complaint, does anyone have any advice as to how I should go about it? I obviously know the GP and practice (although I'm no longer a patient there), but it was a significant period of time ago. Has too much time passed? Should I just let it go? What do you think?

OP posts:
Ponoka7 · 10/03/2022 13:13

It was too long ago to make a complaint. Has there been an increase in services were this took place? That's what I'd focus on.

TimeForTeaAndG · 10/03/2022 13:15

I'm sorry you went through that. I had the opposite experience with a nurse when I thought I might be pregnant in my 20s. She immediately said we'll book you in for a coil fitting and just ignored me saying I hadn't even decided what I would do yet.

You could speak to PALS and get their advice on how/whether to proceed.

pjani · 10/03/2022 13:21

Yes, you’ve been holding onto this for a very long time so it’s clear that the care you received from a publicly funded healthcare professional has affected you negatively (even though you love your son dearly).

They might not be able to access the record of that appointment easily but the complaint will still need to be investigated and if there is a pattern of complaints, that yours may help evidencing this behaviour.

LittleMisfortune · 10/03/2022 13:21

I'm sorry you had to go through that, with it being 10 years ago I'd be tempted to say it was "of it's time" however I had an abortion seven years ago at 20 and that wasn't my experience.

I think it would be too old to investigate but I'm not sure.

Would it being you closure or?

Beachsidesunset · 10/03/2022 13:36

I have a degree of sympathy OP, but honestly - 11 years ago there was the internet, you're both intelligent people, you didn't have to take one doctor's opinion. Own your life choices.

myyellowcar · 10/03/2022 13:39

OP it will be too long ago to make a formal complaint but if I were you and the GP in question is still practicing in the same practice I’d write to the practice manager to share what happened and your hopes that a patient wouldn’t be treated the same now. You could also request your notes as it’d be interesting to see how the Doctor recorded that consultation.

Viviennemary · 10/03/2022 13:42

Why didn't you contact one of those pregnancy advisory services. Or seek help from your university advisory services. From a medical point of view there doesn't seem to be any reason for the doctor to advise an abortion.

Marvellousmadness · 10/03/2022 13:44

Omg imagine your son finding out about this complaint. Goodbye relationship. Hello therapy.

No op.
You should have spoken up then. Not now. What good would it do. Only hurt can come from it...

MrsBerthaRochester · 10/03/2022 13:44

Im sorry but this is nonsense. There are other ways to access abortion without going through a gp and you must have known that.
Im sorry you were treated badly, I had a horrible experience with a consultant when I had my own abortion at 19.
I suggest you put this in the past where it belongs and focus on your life in the here and now.

Candysfloss · 10/03/2022 14:06

OP the way that GP spoke to you was wrong on so many levels but if were going back 11 years ago we are looking at 2010/2011 - I had an abortion at the end of 2011 and didnt speak to my GP at all.

did you not have an 8 week booking in appointment with a midwife? or any other professional that you could of asked? or did you not look online?

I was 17 when I had mine, I would hope at 25 you would of been worldly enough not to make such a huge life choice based on one persons opinion.

I dont mean you sound harsh but it sounds like you are looking for someone to be angry at that the last 10 years have been tough. the GP was wrong but the time to complain was at the time.

SmellyWellyWoo · 10/03/2022 14:08

The internet was easily accessible ten years ago- you had more information at your finger tips. It was 2012 not 1952.

She does sound like a terrible professional and I'm sorry she treated you that way, but I also think you should own the decision to keep your son.

The risk for me of your making a complaint is your son finding out and how it would make him feel. Is it worth it?

SmellyWellyWoo · 10/03/2022 14:09

Sorry 11 years ago.

Motnight · 10/03/2022 14:13

Op the GP was awful. But you have to take some responsibility about this. Why didn't you research what your choices were? Did you, at some level, wanted the choice to be made for you?

DeepDown12 · 10/03/2022 14:26

I am very sorry you had that experience and I can understand the urge to correct the wrong but I'd advise you against it. Your son is way too young to understand the nuance here and you can do way more damage to him than good elsewhere.

ZoeCM · 10/03/2022 14:29

The GP was very unprofessional. But 2011 wasn't exactly the dark ages. A quick Google search shows several ways to access abortion services in the UK. You made a choice to continue with the pregnancy.

If you make a complaint, you risk your son finding out. I imagine it's upsetting enough for a child to find out their parents wanted to abort them, but a hundred times worse to know that instead of being relieved they didn't go through with it, they actually want to formally complain about the doctor who talked them out of it. Yikes.

SartresSoul · 10/03/2022 14:33

I had my eldest at 17 and my GP talked me out of an abortion too. I’m glad he did tbh because even though I’ve made life really difficult for myself, I have a wonderful 12 year old DS who I definitely wouldn’t change or take back for the world. I’m concerned you’re still disappointed you weren’t able to have a termination when your son is now 11 years old. Perhaps you could do with some counselling. I think it’s too late to complain. I’d also say that you were 25, not 15 and Google existed 11 years ago so you definitely could have accessed an abortion if you really wanted one. You’ve never needed to contact the GP about it, you can go straight to an abortion provider.

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 10/03/2022 14:35

GPs are frequently awful and tell patients all manner of things that will adversely impact their lives for years to come - this sometimes results in death and disability. Unfortunately, it's just one of those things until doctors are no longer regarded as mini gods, which they still are.

You could have accessed a termination elsewhere, it was only a decade or so ago.

LottyD32 · 10/03/2022 14:38

Imagine how your son would feel if he found out you launched a campaign against the NHS for not assisting you in aborting him Shock

I'd leave it and move on.

Crunchymum · 10/03/2022 14:43

I'm not looking for compensation, that would devalue my son's existence

What sort of compensation could you possibly think exists for this kind of situation?

Are you sure you'd be able to keep your son away from any evidence of this hypothetical complaint?

I find your post very bizarre to be honest.

I managed to help a friend arrange a termination in 2004 without the need for a GP at all (she didn't want to see her family GP so went direct to Marie Stopes)

InkySquid · 10/03/2022 14:44

I'm amazed at the number of mumsnetters who are told that they absolutely 100% can't have children and then get pregnant accidentally. I've had various gynaecological issues and it's always been couched as it's unlikely but not impossible.

CheltenhamLady · 10/03/2022 14:45

I agree with @LottyD32, no matter how much you insist that you 'wouldn't be without him now' he will definitely wonder when he finds out about the complaint.

I would get some counselling and try to put it behind you. That way, you will get closure privately and your son will be unaware of the angst.

Things are very different now, so you can be assured it wouldn't happen today. Also, you could have taken many other routes at the time. You chose not to do so.

I am not sure what you hope to achieve, but making a formal complaint will open a can of worms you cannot retreat from.

SummerHouse · 10/03/2022 14:47

I really think you need to shift the focus to you and change your feeling on it. Right now, if you could be transported back, would you make the same decision? I couldn't make a compliant against something that resulted in my son. Although no question, this GP was very wrong.

Can you look into counselling? Your feelings are valid but it's like holding on to hot coals, i.e. only hurting yourself. Counseling might help you see this in a more positive way. Yes GP was wrong, yes it was hard, yes you struggled but look what you came through. How brave you were, how you made it work. And look at your son! You did that. Flowers

Suzi888 · 10/03/2022 14:48

I don’t think the G.P was the place to go, they set up the scans etc and confirm a pregnancy.
If you want to end a pregnancy you go to a clinic? That’s my thoughts anyway.

I’m sorry you’ve struggled Flowers

x2boys · 10/03/2022 14:54

It was ten years ,not thirty years ago this info was readily available then ,I have thankfully never needed to consider abortion but I am aware that whilst a Gp doesn't have to refer you ( for religious beliefs etc) ,they should give you the information as who else can refer you

x2boys · 10/03/2022 14:55

@CheltenhamLady

I agree with *@LottyD32*, no matter how much you insist that you 'wouldn't be without him now' he will definitely wonder when he finds out about the complaint.

I would get some counselling and try to put it behind you. That way, you will get closure privately and your son will be unaware of the angst.

Things are very different now, so you can be assured it wouldn't happen today. Also, you could have taken many other routes at the time. You chose not to do so.

I am not sure what you hope to achieve, but making a formal complaint will open a can of worms you cannot retreat from.

It was only ten years ago.
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