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Do you think this should have been allowed (young lad going to Ukraine)?

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Chocolattay · 09/03/2022 16:54

A 19 year old lad near me has gone to fight in Ukraine. He has no prior military experience, has never left the country before and the mother is understandably beside herself.

www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-03-08/call-of-duty-obsessed-teenager-fighting-russia-with-no-experience

She feels this shouldn’t have been allowed. Obviously as a worried mother she would say that but it’s got me wondering. I am surprised he was allowed to go, tbf.

I suppose my AIBU is whether you feel somebody should step in when there’s people with no military experience trying to go, or whether they are adults who should be left to it? After all it’s their prerogative isn’t it?

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Happylittlethoughts · 09/03/2022 22:21

"anyone going to fight in Ukraine would be in breach of a law passed in 1870 saying is illegal to enlist in a foreign army at war with a country at peace with the UK."
Ummmm it's illegal for one .
There is a also a very credible danger that if British soldiers are captured then Put in will absolutely see this as Britain having joined the War ... then all he'll breaks loose.
Total fucking idiocy

Zilla1 · 09/03/2022 22:56

@TiddyTidTwo What happened when the US invaded Grenada? I heard reports of Mrs Thatcher being furious then heard a recorded conversation that was somewhat different.

toconclude · 09/03/2022 23:02

@Lacedwithgrace

What a brave man. Even someone inexperienced can be useful.
Very unlikely in the circumstances. They don't need amateurs who probably can't speak the language
Bromse · 09/03/2022 23:03

He must be off his head. He is an adult though so nobody could stop him.

toconclude · 09/03/2022 23:09

[quote [AUTO]9szl6l0jthb5o]Well then he will get turned away and return to the United Kingdom able to say he tried to help those in need which is more than any of us can say[/quote]
Speak for yourself. You seem bizarrely overinvested in the idea that this is the best thing anyone can do
It's probably worse than useless if he has no actual skills or experience, but crack on with your silly fantasy by all means

RedToothBrush · 09/03/2022 23:09

@Happylittlethoughts

"anyone going to fight in Ukraine would be in breach of a law passed in 1870 saying is illegal to enlist in a foreign army at war with a country at peace with the UK." Ummmm it's illegal for one . There is a also a very credible danger that if British soldiers are captured then Put in will absolutely see this as Britain having joined the War ... then all he'll breaks loose. Total fucking idiocy
How does that fit with Brits who don't enlist in a foreign army, but instead are paid mercenaries?

Given this is a whole industry and its known that its happening throughout the world with various governments outsourcing covertly....

According to a 2008 study by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, private contractors make up 29% of the workforce in the United States Intelligence Community and cost the equivalent of 49% of their personnel budgets

Indeed:
In October 2007, the United Nations released a two-year study that reported that, although hired as "security guards", private contractors performed military duties. Many countries, including the United States and the United Kingdom, are not signatories to the 1989 United Nations Mercenary Convention banning the use of mercenaries.

Why be that?

toconclude · 09/03/2022 23:10

Also I find your very odd username suspicious Hmm

Chocolattay · 09/03/2022 23:40

@toconclude

I had the same thought regarding their username.

@[AUTO9szl6l0jthb5o]
I think your programming has malfunctioned, have you asked Vladimir to turn you on and off again?

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Chocolattay · 09/03/2022 23:41

*off and on

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TiddyTidTwo · 09/03/2022 23:45

"I think your programming has malfunctioned, have you asked Vladimir to turn you on and off again?"

Hopefully Anonymous are currently hacking the basement IP

BookkeeperBobby · 09/03/2022 23:49

There are always mercenaries, thrillseekeers and ideologists in every war really. Usually their governments don't encourage it but ours felt the need to in this instance which was grossly irresponsible. Hopefully he'll get out ok.

RedToothBrush · 10/03/2022 00:07

Ministry of Defence 🇬🇧@DefenceHQ
Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 09 March 2022

Do you think this should have been allowed (young lad going to Ukraine)?
BookkeeperBobby · 10/03/2022 00:25

See, even the Russians don't openly promote it! Can't think of anyone else who does really, other than that damn fool with her stupid fucking fur hat a couple of weeks ago.

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