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Ohbuggeritsme · 09/03/2022 12:58

Another energy thread I'm afraid!

Anyone who is with Octopus, have you had an email confirming what your new prices/standing charges etc will be yet?

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TiddleTaddleTat · 09/03/2022 17:03

Omg. I’ve just priced up based on a recent meter reading and bill.
Looked at the new April prices posted above.
Someone tell me my maths is wrong !!
Annual elec usage 2528
Elec standing charge 48p per day x 365 days
Elec unit price 27.22p
Total £275

Annual gas usage 13838
Gas standing charge 27.22p per day
Gas unit price 7.28
Total £3968

Annual total £4243
Monthly total £354 !!

(We have been paying £77 per month and only £90 in debit at the moment)
Is this wrong ??

TooManyPJs · 09/03/2022 17:07

@Ohbuggeritsme

The fixed rate currently being offered to me by Octopus is a lovely £284.00pm. we are currently in credit with our account and to a certain degree we can absorb the increase, but with everything going up, and our wages staying the same (both me and DP have been told no pay increases this year), we are going to struggle.
They've offered us £417pcm!

Although my calculation based on actual usage means this tariff would be more like £369 a month. So essentially will be about the October fix price. Not worth it as fix is only for 10 months. So would pay about £110 pcm more for 6 months than we need to, then new fix will be about expected Oct price anyway. So unless Oct fix is WAY higher than expected we're better off staying on current. And if Oct price IS way higher than expected we would be protected for only 4 months anyway.

Hugasauras · 09/03/2022 17:07

Yes, you've multiplied your gas units by the standing rate, not unit rate.

Hugasauras · 09/03/2022 17:07

That was to @TiddleTaddleTat

Hugasauras · 09/03/2022 17:12

In fact all your maths is wrong Grin

Your electricity will be £688 plus standing charge of £175, so £863.

And your gas will be around £1100.

So around £1950 a year, £163 a month.

reqding · 09/03/2022 17:13

Really how are families that are already living in deprivation going to withstand these increases?

I anticipate food banks are going to see an extreme increase in demand.

reqding · 09/03/2022 17:13

@Hugasauras

In fact all your maths is wrong Grin

Your electricity will be £688 plus standing charge of £175, so £863.

And your gas will be around £1100.

So around £1950 a year, £163 a month.

Goes to show how confusing it is though and there should be a really super simple and easy way of costing and comparing energy prices.

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 17:14

I run a foodbank

Yes we are already seeing an increase in usage

TooManyPJs · 09/03/2022 17:14

@TiddleTaddleTat

Omg. I’ve just priced up based on a recent meter reading and bill. Looked at the new April prices posted above. Someone tell me my maths is wrong !! Annual elec usage 2528 Elec standing charge 48p per day x 365 days Elec unit price 27.22p Total £275

Annual gas usage 13838
Gas standing charge 27.22p per day
Gas unit price 7.28
Total £3968

Annual total £4243
Monthly total £354 !!

(We have been paying £77 per month and only £90 in debit at the moment)
Is this wrong ??

Hi

I'm getting a total of about 1969.07 a year

Which would be 164 a month.....

Which is a bit more like 50% but your current monthly pyt isn't always reflective of what you are paying now.

Have you calculated gas kWh correctly? The formula is on your statement.

I'll just double check my calc and put the details on another post.

Cognoscenti · 09/03/2022 17:15

I don't really care how much it goes up by, but I did get the email - might go have a look now to see what ours will be!

TooManyPJs · 09/03/2022 17:15

Oh I see someone's done it. That's the same result as me.

TiddleTaddleTat · 09/03/2022 17:33

Oh thank you! I was having palpitations at that increase. Don’t know how I got that so off but reassured that it isn’t going up by as much as I thought.

PuzzledObserver · 09/03/2022 17:45

@Londono

I'm really concerned about this as a single parent household. Should I be increasing my direct debit now to ease the blow later?
Either that, or set some money aside each month in a savings account. Although tbf interest rates are so low you would barely notice the extra you would earn by doing the latter.

If you go onto your Octopus account on the website, a few lines down from the the one which tells you what your monthly payment is there is a link titled Change My Payments. Click on that, and then Change My Payment Amount. This will show you a suggested amount based on your current tariff and usage. You don’t have to accept that, you can put in whatever number you want, but it gives you indication of what Octopus’s system thinks you need to be paying.

What I’m not clear on is how often Octopus themselves will initiate a DD change and how much credit or debit they will let you get into before they force a change. But if you check that figure from time to time, as well as your account balance, you should at least be forewarned.

Personally, I like having a degree of control. Since I joined Octopus in December 2020 I have bought an electric car, had smart meters installed and gone onto the Go (EV) tariff, retired, moved house, had smart meters installed in the new house and had solar panels and battery installed. So basically my energy usage is all over the place, but I have been keeping an eye on my actual usage and nudging my DD in whichever direction seems to make sense.

Having just fixed my gas on a much higher rate than Flexible on the assumption this will be better for next winter, I still want to build up a credit balance over the summer. Because my electric fix runs out in November, and goodness knows what will happen then.

BambinaJAS · 09/03/2022 17:56

@thegcatsmother

I suppose the electricity standing charge has almost doubled as everyone has electricity, but not everyone has mains gas.
Thats mostly due to the cost of moving people off the failed suppliers.

We are all paying for it via the increase in standing charge (electricity).

TiddleTaddleTat · 09/03/2022 19:25

@PuzzledObserver thanks that’s really helpful , when I’ve logged in they are suggesting £110 a month (£11 pcm towards a ‘target balance’).
I’m guessing this will increase anyway on 1st April with the price cap rise. I suppose I may as well set a higher DD amount now. Then at least I can build up some credit over the summer in advance of the next price cap rise …
This is terrible!!

Putdownthecake · 09/03/2022 20:14

I got an email stating this,

Today, we're introducinga temporary Loyal Octopus support to help customers like youkeep your bills as low as possible in this difficult time. The rewardautomatically reduces your electricity charges by £48 per year compared to our standard tariff(that's £50 below the price cap).

We're the only large energy company to do anything like this. It'll cost us another £50m over the next 6 months.

My electric is currently on variable and gas fixed till end of May so not long to go. I guess I should accept the loyalty offer? It all confuses me

Hugasauras · 09/03/2022 20:21

The discount isn't related to fixing a tariff - it's for people on the variable (standard) tariff. The fixed tariffs aren't anywhere near under the price cap.

dementedpixie · 09/03/2022 20:31

@Putdownthecake

I got an email stating this,

Today, we're introducinga temporary Loyal Octopus support to help customers like youkeep your bills as low as possible in this difficult time. The rewardautomatically reduces your electricity charges by £48 per year compared to our standard tariff(that's £50 below the price cap).

We're the only large energy company to do anything like this. It'll cost us another £50m over the next 6 months.

My electric is currently on variable and gas fixed till end of May so not long to go. I guess I should accept the loyalty offer? It all confuses me

There is nothing to accept. If you are on the standard variable rate they will credit the money towards your electricity standing charge
Oopsiedaisy123 · 09/03/2022 20:31

So if we’re on a fixed rate until 2023 does this mean our prices don’t increase?

dementedpixie · 09/03/2022 20:33

@Oopsiedaisy123

So if we’re on a fixed rate until 2023 does this mean our prices don’t increase?
You stay on your fixed rate until it ends
Putdownthecake · 09/03/2022 20:33

Oooh @dementedpixie thank you! That makes sense now. I read it so many times and I'm clearly too dim to understand it. The email links to a loyalty fix rate too, that confused me further! Thank you for the reply

dementedpixie · 09/03/2022 20:35

The loyalty fixed rates are a joke tbh with crazy prices

reqding · 09/03/2022 21:40

@ChiswickFlo

I run a foodbank

Yes we are already seeing an increase in usage

Is that due to utilities costs? Or a combination of factors?

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 21:45

It's a prefect storm really.

I would say that the UC uplift being taken away has been disastrous. It many kept families from needing a foodbank. Furlough has stopped. Covid hardship payments have stopped (very very hard to get anyway).

Add to that the rise in food, fuel and energy and...result is lots of families on the breadline.

Ireolu · 09/03/2022 22:06

Nope just vague messages about how they won't raise it too much but no actual figure like other people have had. I spoke to DH yesterday about calling them his response not much we can do and we just need to pay whatever they want when we eventually find out.