To wonder if the government have started any planning on what if a nuclear weapon hit britain

[Gotajobthrunepotism]

Even in the current climate, I don’t actually believe that a nuclear bomb will be hitting the UK.

But I wondered if the government have prepared for the eventuality.

I heard that in the 70s/80s there were loads of leaflets and adverts of what we should do if we were attacked.

In other countries they have bomb shelters and sirens.

I wouldn’t have a clue what to do. The only thing I do know is that I would want to be with my family when it happened.

Anyone one else wonder about this?

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The nature of a nuclear war means that no one is safe. I really wish those of you talking about living in a safer area would realise that. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just a flame on a lit match compared to what would be unleashed now.
Putin wants control of the asset that is Ukraine and the buffer against NATO that this would create. And he wants us to let him get away with it. He's not after destroying the world.

The message in the 80s was paint your windows white (don't know why), and put a paper bag on your head. Really!

@FairislefandangoNope, Sellafield would probably be classed as key target.

Well I wondered that too. But on all the maps I saw which showed the targets, radiuses and (relatively speaking) safe areas, we were one of the few places outside of a target radius. Scottish Highlands, Skegness, Weymouth, parts of North Wales...and the Lake District. Not sure why Sellafield doesn't seem to come into the equation!

Please google Nuclear Winter. Or don't if your nerves can't stand it. The nonsense on here is breathtaking

The nature of a nuclear war means that no one is safe. I really wish those of you talking about living in a safer area would realise that.

Oh I do! I imagine 'safer' would in practice just mean dying more slowly (or suddenly but slightly later). I'm under no illusions of safety, just curious. I don't believe it will happen, anyway. That's why I'm philosophical rather than terrified, not because I believe Cumbria will be a safe haven!

Although tbh I'm not sure why you 'wish people would realise that'. In the end it won't matter whether you believed you were safe or not. Arguably it might be better to spend your last days in optimistic ignorance!

There was something on radio 4 the other day ( going to work or coming home from work?) about Helsinki.

They have a huge city size bunker under their city with enough room for all the residents.

How amazing is that?

Please google Nuclear Winter. Or don't if your nerves can't stand it. The nonsense on here is breathtaking

Seriously - why bother? It's not as if any of us can do anything about it anyway!

@Fairislefandango if people don't realise it, they may enable the "shit for brains" government into doing something stupid . We have recent form in this country for doing something fucking stupid on the basis of "it won't be that bad"

The nonsense on here is breathtaking

I thought that was the point of the thread, tbh.

I live in a timber framed house so even my house isn’t that great 😢 Might have to resort to Plan B.

Plan B= Get hammered and use my battery powered radio that no-one will be broadcasting on

@toomuchlaundry

I was asking DH whether we still had air raid sirens in this country, and if so where are they and who operates them?

I always wonder this. I live near a water treatment plant and they have an original hand cranked WWII air raid siren that is now used as the chlorine gas warning siren. They test it every Tuesday morning at 9am, it’s really eerie hearing it.

Yes, the stupidity on here…. Wanting every citizen to have a nuclear bunker space. We have a population of 70 million. Just think about it.

LOL about bunkers underneath council offices. I wonder if all the employees of my council who are all wfh (offices shut with bars across) will suddenly be hot-footing it back into the office to reserve their space?

You have to have some black humour about this situation because the reality is grim. The covid brigade have moved onto something new to be me, me, me about. Never mind the Ukrainians, why aren’t the Government building me a shelter and bringing me stuff? (Quite who is doing the building and delivering never addressed…..)

@HerbertChops No, all air raid warning sirens and the system to active them were removed post 1991. They only exceptions were those repurposed for flood warnings and the odd one restored to use on rememberance day.

Read this article the other day, loads of bunkers have been sold off and lots left to decay, doesn’t really say many functioning ones are left. I’m in London so if I don’t get wiped out in the first blast I’d go straight out for the fallout. Would rather not survive too long. My sister’s class (year above mine) were shown ‘Where The Wind Blows’, at school and she told me never to watch it, better to go quick.

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The nature of a nuclear war means that no one is safe. I really wish those of you talking about living in a safer area would realise that. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just a flame on a lit match compared to what would be unleashed now.

Don't say that to the preppers, they think their main concern is enough bottled water!

@Fairislefandangoif people don't realise it, they may enable the "shit for brains" government into doing something stupid.

Really? How is the average foolishly optimistic MNer going to enable Boris Johnson into doing anything?

Being an optimist, a realist or a pessimist will make no difference to the outcome, which is why I don't understand why some people are so determined to make others 'educate themselves' about the real consequences. It won't help!

I've wondered if there's going to be all these VIPs and a cleaning lady. The Queen will have her lady in waiting of course. There'll need to be a slopping out person. Planning is all very well, but there's been terrorist attacks because of human failure. I think I can remember that they had to destroy sheep and stop farming in Scotland for at least ten years after the Chernobyl disaster, so it's the end for most of us and a very grim life if any survive.

@AlternativePerspective

Well, in the event of a nuclear attack you should adopt the brace position:

Lean forward, put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

@fungh

The nature of a nuclear war means that no one is safe. I really wish those of you talking about living in a safer area would realise that. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just a flame on a lit match compared to what would be unleashed now.

Don't say that to the preppers, they think their main concern is enough bottled water!

The elite will already have their bunkers and underground areas ect

[quote Fairislefandango]**@FairislefandangoNope, Sellafield would probably be classed as key target.

Well I wondered that too. But on all the maps I saw which showed the targets, radiuses and (relatively speaking) safe areas, we were one of the few places outside of a target radius. Scottish Highlands, Skegness, Weymouth, parts of North Wales...and the Lake District. Not sure why Sellafield doesn't seem to come into the equation![/quote]
Ignore that map! It isn’t the official Russian we are “aiming here”, instead it looks like somebody has just drawn standard radius circles around the major UK population centers.

Whoever drew it hasn’t considered the counterforce targets that you’d pretty much guaranteed would get hit (for example none of the major military airfields are shown as targets ) and it doesn’t consider different yield weapons by having different sized circles….

TBH I’m not sure I’d assume Sellafield would be a key target - even the Russians have a finite number of warheads and heaven forbid the worse happens to the UK they’ll be targeting populations and/or direct military targets well before bothering with a nuclear processing plant.

Depends..reasonable number of single figures, lowish yield device and and you might get lucky/unlucky (delete as applicable).

@notimagain

Just under two miles, as the crow flies.

@notimagain Certainly anything involved in military or civil nuclear would have (and probably are still) been key targets both to prevent any chance at more nuclear weapons being produced and for "economic warfare" reasons, i.e if a country was devastated then a electricity supply that needed no fossil fuels would be a key asset.

Certainly in the past sellafield was involved in much more than nuclear power station fuel processing too.

Whoever thought developing nuclear weapons was a good idea
A nuclear war is pretty much the end

As an aside in the cold war Britain had the most number of targets per size of country than anywhere. This was due to the UK essentially being a floating aircraft carrier off Europe and its role in the USA re-enforcing Europe in the event the cold war went hot.