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WWYD - telling DH’s estranged parents about grandchild?

72 replies

spaghettihoops91 · 26/02/2022 19:51

Hi all - bit of a long post but feel it’s needed for context so you can make an informed decision.

Me and DH started dating midway through 2018, after him and his ex split in October 2017. (We had been work colleagues since 2015 so I had quite a bit of context on his relationship). Him and his ex had been separated for a while but living together, with him sleeping on the sofa etc. Up until the point of DH and her splitting, neither of them had spoken to his side of the family in 2 years since his ex was upset as they never made the effort to come and see their grandkids - she felt they always had to make all the effort. I’m sure there was other stuff going on but I remember back then always telling him that he should try and make contact back with his family and not let his ex dictate that they weren’t to see them for what seemed like a bit of a disproportionate reason.

When they split, I encouraged DH to make contact with his parents again as he agreed for her to retain ownership of the family home solely (that they owned 50/50) - and all the contents etc. so the children were well housed. This meant he essentially made himself homeless at the time.. as he was still paying mortgage, bills and joint credit cards etc so ended up staying with his mum and dad temporarily.

Fast forward to just under a year later. We start dating and ex gets wind of it, at first we don’t know how as we are really private but it turned out his mum was in contact. Then the threats started coming in - like phone calls threatening violence against myself, or she would phone the police on DH accusing him of all sorts when he arrived to pick his kids up for the night etc. Obviously nothing happened as it was all baseless, but she did all sorts of crazy stuff - like found out where I worked and rang HR and told them lies about me etc. I couldn’t actually do anything about it because she called off an anonymous number and the police refused to trace it, I guess it’s not an important enough crime which I understand.. We are both teachers so this was less than ideal but luckily they could see it was all baseless and it was okay.

It took ages for us to figure out how she was getting her information but his mum later admitted that she was giving it all to her as she felt guilty about her being alone. Ex even refused to give DH his grandfather’s signet ring from the house when he asked for it, and told his parents he’d pawned it, which they believed.

Anyway, there’s tonnes of stories of stuff she did - but long story short his family chose to side with her as she gave an ultimatum that she would not let any of the family see the grandchildren if they continued to have anything to do with DH.

No contact has been had since 2018, except for me messaging his dad in 2020 to explain that DH had been admitted to hospital with sepsis and I would really like for them to go see him if possible. His dad just said there was too much water under the bridge.

The main question I want to ask is the following…. Our first child is due next week. 4 years after we started dating. We are both super excited but I can’t help but feel bad for denying my baby access to his grandparents. What would you do? They will definitely find out at some point on the grapevine. On the one hand, the extra stress that would bring into my life again really isn’t needed but - is it wrong to straight up not tell them?

Thanks for taking the time to read all this

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luxxlisbon · 26/02/2022 19:59

YABU, they are your husbands family not yours and really it’s up to him if he wants to foster a relationship between them and his kids. I don’t see what going against your husbands wishes to tell them you’re having a baby would actually achieve? It seems like you want a loving grandparent relationship for your baby it hardly seems possible given the situation.

spaghettihoops91 · 26/02/2022 20:02

Well he just says he will go with what I want which isn’t helpful haha! I’ve never had grandparents in my life so I think that probably feeds into the guilt. They would definitely want something to do with the little one but probably just bring a whole lot of stress :/

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ohhooh · 26/02/2022 20:05

Is it really denying your baby access to grandparents, or protecting your child and husbands best interests? No one is entitled to a relationship with anyone, and lots of children grow up without grandparents.

Being involved in your life would be a privilege, and from previous actions it sounds like it wouldn't be treated as such. Enjoy the last few days before your baby, and relax. If they have a relationship, they have a relationship - but that's for the future you to deal with, right now it sounds like you don't need the added stress.

Unmumsymofo · 26/02/2022 20:05

Honestly the kids will be better off way from toxic relatives that thrive on drama and take every opportunity to shit talk you behind your back. You need to look after you and DP as well and they sound like bad news!

ThymePoultice · 26/02/2022 20:09

It’s really up to your DH. His parents, his choice.

luxxlisbon · 26/02/2022 20:09

@spaghettihoops91

Well he just says he will go with what I want which isn’t helpful haha! I’ve never had grandparents in my life so I think that probably feeds into the guilt. They would definitely want something to do with the little one but probably just bring a whole lot of stress :/
Do you not think it’s incredibly strange that your DH hasn’t made any contact with his parents since 2018 and yet apparently will then just restart to do what “you want”?

It doesn’t sound like your future child is missing out on anything with people who just cut off their own son for years and don’t even visit him when gravely ill in hospital.

spaghettihoops91 · 26/02/2022 20:10

Thank you - just really needed to hear some voices of reason. And you are probably right about not needing the added stress. It’s not something I feel I can reasonably broach with anyone I know personally as they have quite passionate opinions since they care about me so it’s never really a comfortable conversation. We have my family who are supportive so that’s a positive. I really appreciate your advice - thank you

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LolaButt · 26/02/2022 20:11

You absolutely should not contact them. It’s for your husband to decide.

RedMozzieYellowMozzie · 26/02/2022 20:13

They sound like shitty people - not even visiting their son when he was seriously ill? They don’t deserve a relationship with your child or your DH

M0rT · 26/02/2022 20:14

Their son was in hospital with sepsis, a possibly fatal illness and they chose not to visit.
Keep that in the forefront of your mind when your swayed by the notion of letting them into your child's life.

CrappyXmasMarket · 26/02/2022 20:16

His parents sound dreadful.

Your DH could have died and they didn't visit him in hospital?

I think you should stop considering forcing a relationship between them and leave everything to your DH to manage, and support his decisions.

Besides, is it a good idea to give such awful toxic people access to your child? Don't forget anything your child tells them about you in innocence will get straight back to the ex. Avoid the drama and don't tell them anything about your pregnancy.

spaghettihoops91 · 26/02/2022 20:17

Well I guess I’ve got my answer then! I think I knew at the back of my mind what the right thing to do was, just need perspectives sometimes. Thank you everyone - really appreciate you taking the time to respond with honesty Smile

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ChubbyMorticia · 26/02/2022 20:21

They threw their own son over. Why would they treat your child any better?

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/02/2022 20:23

Surely they’ll find out via his older kids? Does he see much of them?

You shouldn’t be contacting them. Not about the baby. Not about him being ill. Not about anything ever.

What possible reason could there be from what you know about these utter utter heartless bastards that makes you think they’ll add anything positive to your child’s life?

Respect your husband’s wishes. You shouldn’t even be asking about including them in this happy time for the two of you.

And if you’re worried about your baby not knowing them while his older DC do, it’s fine. I’m in the same situation. It’s wonderful now we no longer have DH fucking nightmare parents in our lives. In time I expect his older kids won’t want much to do with them.

SeasonFinale · 26/02/2022 20:28

If you were to tell them you realise that they would actually tell ex wife too and she may then kick off even more because she would spin it as replacing her children.

So I really would be led by DH

Jeanluc · 26/02/2022 20:30

Is your partner seeing the kids?

WouldIwasShookspeared · 26/02/2022 20:33

They made their choice when they behaved so disgustingly.
I wouldn't give them a chance to do it again.
Your child does not deserve to have those people inflicted on them.

2pinkginsplease · 26/02/2022 20:35

They didn’t go to their sons side when he was fighting a sepsis battle! Why would you want them in your child’s life? Keep your distance and protect your child from them.

FantasticFebruary · 26/02/2022 20:41

Hell would freeze over before I let them have contact with my child.

Loving Grandparents are a huge bonus to a child's life, but they don't need horrible ones. They can also have great relationships with other family & friends!

Keep them away from your family. Do not invite trouble.

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 26/02/2022 20:46

I probably wouldn't contact them. Sounds like it'll be too stressful. Having a baby is hard enough without adding difficult relatives into the mix. Plus your about to give birth. What if they don't want to know or be involved. You'll be disappointed along with feeling stressed out.

Your baby won't miss what they've never known. And don't think you'll have grandparents to babysit on tap for you. There's no guarantee that will happen.

Not to mention, they're quite happy to spill the beans about every single detail with the EX. What if they babysat for you and then the ex insisted on meeting your baby without you being present. Who knows what she and the grandparents will do behind your back. Seems like they can't be trusted.

Aprilx · 26/02/2022 20:53

I leave my husband to take the lead in the relationship with his family. I would suggest you do and if he says it is up to you then you reply , “no it isn’t”.

Jengnr · 26/02/2022 21:13

Why would they side with the ex with contact with the children being the carrot? Surely they could’ve seen them on your husband’s time?

There’s something you’ve missed out here.

Liveandkicking · 26/02/2022 21:14

No way would I tell them if they’d refused to visit their seriously ill son in hospital. The other stuff is bad but you could semi forgive it if they hadn’t realised how the info they were passing to ex wife would be used, but the hospital thing would be an absolute red line for me.

Flickflak · 26/02/2022 21:15

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StepAwayFromGoogling · 26/02/2022 21:19

Who the fuck is voting YABU?! Keep those toxic arseholes away from your grandchild. Given how they've treated their own son, that is only ever going to end badly. Ex-wife is a tosser too - who uses their children as blackmail like that to destroy a family?!

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