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AIBU to feel 'Ouch'?

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winsomewoman · 26/02/2022 11:53

We had dinner last night with a couple of friends we hadn't seen for a long time and we were talking about all the things we'd been through over the years we've know each other.

When DP and I got together I arrived with a fairly clean slate. I'd already been through some of the more complicated things in life: my parents had both died young, I'd looked after my mum through the last year of her cancer and I'd ended up losing my home when my long-term relationship came to an end. So I was starting out fresh and unencumbered when DP and I met.

DP had been separated for a year and was about to start self-building a new home. We had a lovely first few months before the shit hit the fan and all the stress of a self-build, plus DP's acrimonious divorce, hit. We weathered that, with me providing support.

Then DP started a business and invited an old friend to be a partner. It took off quickly and they made serious money — at which point the old friend tried to take the whole business for himself and dump DP. The legal wrangling and civil court proceedings went on for four excruciating years, with the threat of bankruptcy hanging over DP. DP won, but it cost £150k, broke the business and left us both depressed and worn down.

Then DP's parents, in their late 70s, began to ail. Almost every time we had a holiday due, DP's dad would have a heart attack or a TIA: he had nine in all! DP's mum started to develop dementia. DP's family are in Scotland and DP was up and down most months for years. Until the mother died nearly three years ago barely a week went by without some new complication or emergency. This went on for more than seven years. We spent Christmas apart year after year. We'd organise Christmas with my family or friends, then there'd be an emergency with the in-laws and I'd be celebrating with the dog.

Throughout this my own life has been quite calm. I've been really fortunate to able to earn a decent living without much drama and we've had some lovely times when things have worked out well. I'm glad DP had such close, loving relationships with PiL and MiL. Although some of the things that happened to us as a result of OH's business and family have been a burden I don't feel resentful. I wish things had been easier, of course.

Anyway, last night we were having dinner with old friends who've known us for nearly 20 years and we all talked about some of the things we'd been through and one of them said, just fleetingly, to DP that it was lucky I'd been on the scene to offer support during the difficult times. On the way home in the car DP gave me a little speech about me not being the only one to have to put up with a lot. I was then told that I'm not the easiest person in the world to live with. Apparently many's the time DP has felt like leaving me. I asked for examples of why I'm so difficult to live with. The main complaint seems to be that I'm no fun.

Is it really much of a surprise that I'm not much fun (which I don't thin is true) when I've had years of worry about the business situation, all the hundreds of unpaid hours acting as builder's mate on the self-build, the Christmases spent alone because at the last minute PiL or MiL needed DP's presence, the holidays cancelled, all the sleepless nights?

All the times I've gritted my teeth and just got on with whatever's needed to get us through. I don't complain, I don't criticise. And now here we are. AIBU to feel really hurt? Anyone else out there with a partner for whom nothing ever seems to be easy?

OP posts:
SiliconDioxide79 · 26/02/2022 12:49

Sort of similar situation here but both DH and I have both had thing after thing causing stress and generally sucking the fun out of life! Family, acrimonious divorce, awkward exes, ill parents, cousins, sisters, ripped off by a couple of people etc! Also doing up houses from utter wrecks! I think that this hurtful comment is not something to end a relationship immediately.. can you talk about it calmly and hopefully remind DH that there has been plenty to make you call it a day. Maybe it was a late night drunken comment that needs pickimg apart later on. Me and my DH have been at breaking point for a while but we have just begun to realise that our relationship must be quite strong to have survived so many things, but we need to try our best to have as much fun as we can after not being able to fit much in for years. We have both forgotten how to do anything other than grit our teeth and keep trudging on.

Not surprised you feel fed up though. It sounds like you have been really supportive and sacrificed a lot and he needs to be reminded of that. Hope you can move on from it and start enjoying the life you deserve!

Gazorpazorp · 26/02/2022 12:50

I think you sound kind, sensible and self-aware: not qualities that are always easy to find. She should appreciate what she has.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/02/2022 12:52

Are you married? Who owns the house and the business? If you are married, you're entitled to a substantial chunk of your joint assets, including pensions, if you divorce. It sounds as if you have earned them by providing this constant support!

Inthesameboatatmo · 26/02/2022 12:52

What horrid things to say ! . I honestly couldn't get past it all and would look at ending things. He doesn't think highly enough of you that you've put up with all that shit for years . Fuck him op and have my first LTB 2022.

Zilla1 · 26/02/2022 12:53

That must be most upsetting. Interesting they've never shared that gem during all the time you were helping and supportive and have decided to do so now if they are over the hill of difficulties. Might be an idea to try and objectively assess whether they will positively contribution to your retirement life emotionally and financially or whether the forthcoming retirement might be a good opportunity to reassess if they will be there when you have a significant health issue, for example. One positive is that if after all that, the worst they could criticise you with is the absence of fun then that is a testament to sainthood, I suspect.

Inthesameboatatmo · 26/02/2022 12:53

Just seen not male . Sorry op shouldn't have jumped to that conclusion. But I would leave personally.

RightOnTheEdge · 26/02/2022 13:00

Is it really much of a surprise that I'm not much fun (which I don't thin is true) when I've had years of worry about the business situation, all the hundreds of unpaid hours acting as builder's mate on the self-build, the Christmases spent alone because at the last minute PiL or MiL needed DP's presence, the holidays cancelled, all the sleepless nights?

All the times I've gritted my teeth and just got on with whatever's needed to get us through. I don't complain, I don't criticise. And now here we are.
I hope you said this to her OP! YANBU to feel hurt, she was very hurtful.

ISmellBurnings · 26/02/2022 13:02

Interesting they've never shared that gem during all the time you were helping and supportive and have decided to do so now if they are over the hill of difficulties

Yes, this. And I would point that out. If things were so bad why didn’t they leave?

Purplecatshopaholic · 26/02/2022 13:07

I went through something very similar with my ex H. Years of supporting him through all sorts of shit, for him to eventually decide I was no fun anymore and I caught him cheating. Dumped him, but i should have done it years earlier. Your DP sounds very harsh in her words, and unappreciative op. I would be hurt too, and re-evaluating the relationship.

grapewine · 26/02/2022 13:13

Maybe time for you to start over and enjoy your retirement without someone who sounds spectacularly selfish. I wouldn't be able to get past that.

Resentment would grow.

Elsiebear90 · 26/02/2022 13:19

Did this all come out of the blue? She’s never expressed unhappiness in the relationship before now? Never said in the past she’s considered ending things?

If so then I think it’s incredibly cruel and seems to have come about as a reaction to being told she’s put you through a lot over the years.

If she has expressed unhappiness before now and this isn’t a complete surprise then I think the comments were still unnecessary, but I don’t think just because you have supported her through a lot of things that means you could never do any wrong and she had to be just be forever happy and grateful if that makes sense?

winsomewoman · 26/02/2022 13:28

He's stupid enough to let his business partner almost bankrupt him and ruin the business. And you supported him through this.

There wasn't stupidity. The business partner had a good track record and was someone we both knew and trusted. I wouldn't have dreamed for a moment they could behave as badly as they did. DP's legal team said they see the situation all the time: a business does well and one partner gets greedy and tries to push the other out.

I don't attach blame to DP for anything that has happened. She wasn't responsible for the acrimonious divorce: her ex was completely unreasonable and that was recognised when they ended up in court. Self-builds are always a nightmare: see Grand Designs. I'm glad that she loved her parents enough to want to be closely involved in their care.

We are normally appreciative of the things we do for each other. We say thank you a lot: we don't take each other for granted.

What's hit me like a ton of bricks is the realisation that all the hundreds of hours of sleep we both lost to anxiety, all the weekends I spent lugging floorboards and holding pipes and banging in nails, all the tears and despair as yet another set of problems loomed — that all that was taken for granted.

OP posts:
Thoosa · 26/02/2022 13:32

She sounds defensive and, as a result, is being spiteful. Is this out of character for her?

grapewine · 26/02/2022 13:33

What's hit me like a ton of bricks is the realisation that all the hundreds of hours of sleep we both lost to anxiety, all the weekends I spent lugging floorboards and holding pipes and banging in nails, all the tears and despair as yet another set of problems loomed — that all that was taken for granted.

I totally understand that. It must be such a blow.

Gazorpazorp · 26/02/2022 13:37

We are normally appreciative of the things we do for each other. We say thank you a lot: we don't take each other for granted.

Is it possible that she didn’t mean it to come out like it did? Perhaps she was feeling like your friend had implied she was a burden or a problem so she was trying to say that the relationship is 50/50, it’s not all Winsomewoman being the “good” one and her being the “bad” one. I know that’s not how you see it but maybe she felt embarrassed or humiliated at the idea that she’s been a drain, so was being defensive. Have you told her how you feel?

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/02/2022 13:38

"On the way home in the car DP gave me a little speech about me not being the only one to have to put up with a lot. I was then told that I'm not the easiest person in the world to live with. Apparently many's the time DP has felt like leaving me. I asked for examples of why I'm so difficult to live with. The main complaint seems to be that I'm no fun."

All that in response to an old friend saying that she was lucky to have your support during the (very extensive!) difficult times? Wow. She couldn't bear that your friends appreciate your qualities, she had to tear you down to put you in your place - which, in her view, is mere supporting cast for her, the star of the show.

She must be very self-absorbed, which I suppose accounts for "strangely I don't think she's suffered as much as I have". Her self-absorption will have shielded her ego from any self-reflection of her bad decisions. You, on the other hand, had a ring-side seat.

In your shoes, I would be reassessing my future. I'm not sure that I'd be including her in it. She has shown how little respect she has for you, and without respect, love dies (in my opinion). I couldn't see her now in the same way as I did before her 'little speech', and I'd be wondering exactly how she saw me. I'm pretty sure it's not as a cherished partnerSad.

Louisethemum · 26/02/2022 13:38

Wow OP, you seem like an amazingly supportive, level headed and articulate person who has given up a great many years to support your partners interests and life events. You talk about it so calmly and rationally you are an absolute credit to yourself and someone that I would have to loved to have had around in my hard times.

To me, it sounds like your friends may have inadvertently embarrassed your DP and I think he has lashed out at you. It may not be how he truly feels, but faced with others perhaps insinuating he hasn't given you a great life himself, he has turned it around.

I hope that that's the case, because people who are lots of fun, in my experience, are also not to be relied upon. He will have a rude awakening if he loses you!

Thoosa · 26/02/2022 13:41

@Gazorpazorp

We are normally appreciative of the things we do for each other. We say thank you a lot: we don't take each other for granted.

Is it possible that she didn’t mean it to come out like it did? Perhaps she was feeling like your friend had implied she was a burden or a problem so she was trying to say that the relationship is 50/50, it’s not all Winsomewoman being the “good” one and her being the “bad” one. I know that’s not how you see it but maybe she felt embarrassed or humiliated at the idea that she’s been a drain, so was being defensive. Have you told her how you feel?

Yes, that’s what I’m wondering.
Louisethemum · 26/02/2022 13:41

Sorry OP just saw the comments. Please change everywhere I have written he, to she!

TravellingFrom · 26/02/2022 13:44

She is taking you for granted.
And she didn’t like being put on the spot where she had to acknowledge all the work/support you’ve given her. She tried to put you back at your place - the one where you are there to support her.

I know you are saying that you are saying thank you to each other all the time. But is a ‘true’ thank you? Did she ask before leaving to see her parents with a genuine expectation that you could (and maybe should) say NO?
Has she ever supported you in return? I mean you say you haven’t had my issues. But you had - you’ve been shouldering HER issues. Has she ever supported you doing that?

I have the feeling that this comment was a wake up call but she has been taking you for granted for a very long time - she just managed to hide it well enough for you to not notice.

HollowTalk · 26/02/2022 13:45

@billy1966

OMG

Well, well, well.

Now you know.

I would not be forgetting that.

What a selfish, self absorbed arsehole.

I think you would be very silly not to have a hard think.

All the years of your support he has thought of leaving you several times?.

I'd be done.Flowers

This is exactly my reaction, too.

Time for you to really think about what you want in life, OP.

hilbil21 · 26/02/2022 13:45

Sounds like she's embarrassed and feels guilty so has hit back once your friend highlighted the reason for the guilt.

TravellingFrom · 26/02/2022 13:50

Perhaps she was feeling like your friend had implied she was a burden or a problem so she was trying to say that the relationship is 50/50, it’s not all Winsomewoman being the “good” one and her being the “bad” one.

If that is so, She didn’t need to take it onto the OP though. The fact you have been hurt by SOMEONE ELSE doesn’t mean you can take it out on your partner.

Also an appropriate response to being put on the spot and shown how much support you’ve been given is to say THANK YOU. Or to feel ashamed you’ve asked so much from them/taken so much from them (I feel it’s not unusual to not realise how much you ask from people really close to you). Going on the attack …. Less so?

TravellingFrom · 26/02/2022 13:51

@hilbil21

Sounds like she's embarrassed and feels guilty so has hit back once your friend highlighted the reason for the guilt.
So taking the OP for granted AND using her an emotional punching ball?
ClemDanFango · 26/02/2022 13:58

Female or not still a selfish ungrateful arse and I’d be telling her so.

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