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AIBU but isn't it a bit daft to end all Covid restrictions so soon.....

254 replies

Diamondsareforever123 · 22/02/2022 19:50

I'm pretty worried TBH, particularly the move from people not having to isolate if they have Covid. Let's face it a lot of people won't be able to afford to isolate! Surely this will simply allow the virus to circulate more widely - so more people with Covid, and more vulnerable people with Covid. What happens when the vaccine immunity starts to wane? What happens if we get a really dodgy variant? Why can't the government impose mandatory mask wearing on transport and shops? This would stop spread, I'd really like to hear views on this please.

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User1isnotavailable · 23/02/2022 00:19

YABU

I was so scared of catching covid being CEV. I caught it and it was mild as it is for many others including many of us that are CEV.

Makes you realise. Scared the be gee bees out of lots of us CEV

User1isnotavailable · 23/02/2022 00:20

@nocoolnamesleft

YANBU. The next variant may be worse.
It might be milder though!
DaphneSprucesPippasClack · 23/02/2022 00:28

@MrsEdnaWelthorpe I'm CEV too!

DogFacedWoman · 23/02/2022 00:42

@DeckTheHallsWithGin, "All because there are selfish idiots who can’t be arsed to wear a mask while they buy their fags"

Italy have had some of the most stringent rules in the world toward face masks all through the pandemic. Have you seen their stats recently? 2 or 3 times as many case and double the number of deaths per day compared to us. They also have a higher deaths per 1m population than we do.
But yes, masks are the answer 🙄

sleepwouldbenice · 23/02/2022 00:43

@VelvetChairGirl

your vaccine immunity wears off after a couple of months and doesnt offer full coverage anyway.

get over it, we always knew it was here to stay and would melt into the background like the Spanish flu did.

Link to the evidence for your made up crap please
GrolliffetheDragon · 23/02/2022 00:49

@DaphneSprucesPippasClack

Thought experiment. Imagine both of the following are true for you. You have no spare money & someone you love and or live with is CEV. Not working isn't an option. Free Testing isn't available. How do you now keep them safe from covid?
This is the issue isn't it. We're now supposed to take personal responsibility, yet the means for doing that are being taken away unless you can afford it.
FurryAntiWaxer · 23/02/2022 01:01

Some people seem to thrive on Covid drama.

They will never be ready for restrictions to end. After all, the next pandemic could be just around the corner.

We should all stay home for ever, cover ourselves in kevlar & latex suits and bleach everything just in case.

EmmaMaya · 23/02/2022 01:25

I agree op . . Unpopualar as it may be! This is not following the science - Whitty did not seem on same page as Boris which concerned me!

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/02/2022 01:37

I hate how this has become a binary issue.

It's perfectly possible to acknowledge that we're able to move forwards, while still being concerned about COVID.

It's very telling that the scientists/doctors don't seem comfortable with ripping away every measure right now. It's also very telling that Boris has introduced a whole raft of crowd-pleasing measures - which go against scientific advice - at the time when he's under the biggest pressure for his lockdown behaviour.

This is nothing more that distraction techniques - and it's bloody working.

Mental health, the economy, jobs - of course they're all important. The point is that it doesn't have to be a binary choice in the way that Boris has made it.

We are not yet at the point of being able to live with COVID, just like flu and colds. If you had it, and it was mild, then brilliant. Genuinely. But thousands of people are dying, being hospitalised or suffering long-term effects. It's reckless in the extreme to basically stop everything.

Without testing we won't know when cases are rising. People who at an increased risk won't be able to judge how to take a proportionate response. Why can't we carry on wearing masks in shops and on public transport for a while? It protects the most vulnerable and doesn't stop businesses, hurt the economy etc.

Throughout this whole COVID saga Boris has reacted too slowly, or put his own interests first. And he's doing it again now.

The problem is that people are just sick of COVID. And if they've not suffered badly, and not known anyone who has, it just doesn't seem real. It's very easy to dismiss this as just a cold. And it's really, really, really not.

But if you say that, people come along to sneer and suggest you wear a biohazard suit to open the front door, or other such sarcastic comments.

I don't understand how we couldn't have moved forward but just kept better monitoring in place, and some protection. This isn't over yet, even though Boris would like you to think that it is. And by refusing to acknowledge there remains a lingering risk, some people will end up dying or very sick. That might not be you or your loved ones, but that still doesn't mean that it's OK.

Asking for monitoring, ongoing testing, and masks in very public, crowded spaces while opening everything up properly doesn't seem like a lot to ask. It means if things go tits up, we'll be able to spot it right away. It won't affect businesses or mental health. But Boris isn't "going with the science" as he's always claimed to do - he's saying what people wanted to hear, so I guess science is an inconvenient fact that they'd rather not acknowledge.

Topseyt · 23/02/2022 04:01

@Diamondsareforever123

i apologise for putting this topic on the wrong thread. I'm a bit surprised by the reaction, I thought people would be more concerned about scientific data and contagion - but I'm obviously in the minority. I think Johnson is making a popularist move....and I think it's scary.
I'm no fan of Boris, but I'm no great fan of restrictions hampering people's lives and businesses either.

It certainly isn't even remotely too soon to ditch restrictions. It has been two years! How long do you want? Another two years?

If you want to impose the restrictions on yourself then nobody is stopping you. The rest of us will get on with getting back to normal.

I personally largely gave up on masks ages ago. Hard to breathe through, uncomfortable and not the great panacea so many people seem to think.

Krabapple · 23/02/2022 04:17

I agree with stopping most of the restrictions except the financial support if you have covid. People will end up working while they are Ill because they can’t afford not to. We have had covid in last few months and whilst none of us were horrendous we were all too Ill to work for at least the first week. Dd didn’t get sick pay so claimed the £500 payment. Even if she had claimed SSP it wouldn’t have covered her rent.
I agree this is just a distraction and wouldn’t have happened so quickly or abruptly if it wasn’t for partygate.
Ending the financial support and free testing is wrong!
Dh still isn’t right btw - 2 months later. Well enough to work but easily tired.

Krabapple · 23/02/2022 04:20

SpidersAreShitheads - you have summed it up perfectly. I should have read your thread first. People are so selfish and Boris is playing to this.

StarCat2020 · 23/02/2022 04:44

I agree with stopping most of the restrictions except the financial support if you have covid
Worse than that is that SSP is reverting to old system

Lemonlady22 · 23/02/2022 04:52

Everyone who say 'great, no isolation, no masks...yippee' obviously do not know anyone who has died from covid, doesn't know anyone who is CEV, hasn't been seriously ill themselves and obviously doesn't give a stuff about any one else...and won't care UNTIL IT AFFECTS THEM IN A DEVASTING WAY. I know things have to get back to normality, but it's a new way of normal. There are still ways of protecting yourself and people around you. Be sensible!

StarCat2020 · 23/02/2022 05:08

I know things have to get back to normality, but it's a new way of normal
To be honest, I don't see how this is "normal" at all.

StarCat2020 · 23/02/2022 05:08

Ignore me I am being a pessimist

MarshaBradyo · 23/02/2022 07:03

People are so selfish

Still this. After two years.

Clutterbugsmum · 23/02/2022 07:05

We have to get back to some sort of normal.

We also can't keep paying out 2billion pounds a month on 'free testing' and other costs of Covid, while businesses are losing millions/billions in tax revenue.

So yes the financial aspect of this will have been have been a big part in this decision.

sst1234 · 23/02/2022 07:13

@MarshaBradyo

People are so selfish

Still this. After two years.

Exactly, people are selfish. Especially those support restrictions. Because like someone else upthread said, they thrive in the drama. Without considering how restrictions have devastated young people life chances, businesses, people’s household finances and their overall mental health. People have and are dying because they couldn’t see a GP. People’s life expectancy expectancy will be shortened because of structural economic problem caused by lockdowns. They don’t care that more people will die because of the restrictions than from Covid. Far far more people.
sst1234 · 23/02/2022 07:14

@StarCat2020

I know things have to get back to normality, but it's a new way of normal To be honest, I don't see how this is "normal" at all.
Were you born after March 2020?
MarshaBradyo · 23/02/2022 07:16

Sst the messaging re cost and risk has been wholly one-sided, and heightened, but it’s frustrating to see it now.

hellithurt · 23/02/2022 07:20

Then don't go with the lifting of restrictions, wear your mask and restrict your movements and isolate.

I'm very glad it's ending.

Two years and to think back at the beginning we all thought it would be a few weeks.

Iggly · 23/02/2022 07:22

@hellithurt

Then don't go with the lifting of restrictions, wear your mask and restrict your movements and isolate.

I'm very glad it's ending.

Two years and to think back at the beginning we all thought it would be a few weeks.

We haven’t been in lockdown for two years though, have we…..

The last really draconian protection was when schools closed in Jan 2021, because government utterly failed to pay attention and plan. And we walked into autumn/winter having eased off too much, then we had that nonsense over Christmas gatherings and then numbers rocketed.

We aren’t anywhere near there luckily but the last measure of isolating - is nothing like having to home school and work from home for weeks on end.

hellithurt · 23/02/2022 07:23

@Theluggage15

Oh please. There’s a separate coronavirus section for this tedious rubbish. Go and flap over there.
You're right! I responded here, but should've said this! 🙄
hellithurt · 23/02/2022 07:26

@Iggly we've been restricted in one way or another for two years.

The stats are down, it's ending.

Thank fuck!

Some people will never want the mask wearing or social distancing to stop, they'll want it for years. They'll use it as an excuse to never go out, go back to the office etc. they are free to do that, but they shouldn't blame others for getting back to the not new normal.

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