Response to storm Arwen vs Eunice

[ArwenVsEunice]

Curious to hear other peoples POV. Does anyone feel let down by the government’s response to storm Eunice versus storm Arwen, both with rare red warning storms?

For Eunice the Government have held an emergency cobra meeting, thousands of schools have been closed and there’s huge national media coverage. I think this absolutely is the right thing to do.

When Arwen was brewing there was no cobra meeting, just general advice to be careful from the Met Office. it was in the media but only to a very small extent www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-59419772. We live in the areas affected by Arwen and it was pretty terrifying when it hit. It took out trees and roofs local to where we live, at PIL it blew down their garden wall and fencing and left a 6ft hole. It knocked out power to nearly 250,000 homes. It took at least 5 days to get the army in to help those still cut off. I’ve not seen anything like it in my lifetime.

The optimistic part of me likes to think the government learnt from Arwen and have now pulled their socks up to deal with Eunice the way they should have done but the cynical part of me just feels like they weren’t bothered about Arwen as it was up in Scotland and the North East

AIBU to feel this way?

YANBU - it’s yet another example of the government not caring unless its a problem that affects the south/London

YABU - the government didn’t recognise the severity of Arwen and have learnt from their mistakes with Eunice

@kittensinthekitchen

It's interesting that things are built and structured to better withstand storms in Scotland (and North England?)

Can anyone link me to information about that? I'd like to read up on it a little.

Still nothing???

Likewise generations of unemployed in the North who have no intention of ever working

Judgemental and ill-informed statement.

Unemployment is currently worse in London than the North.

And I don't know where you've sourced your information to differentiate between those who intend to find work and those who don't; or whether you are lumping people who can't work in with those who don't want to.

www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/regionallabourmarket/october2021

PS: light bulbs, light switches, windscreen wipers, hydraulics, railways, life boats, joy sticks, the power grid, and photographic plates were all invented in the North East of England so we'll have those back too. And the head of design at Apple is a Newcastle graduate so you'll need to hand back all your Apple products too.

And Scotland want their penicillin back, all of the televisions, the toilets, the MRI scanners, ATM machines, contact lenses, hypodermic needles, toasters, and fridges.

Haven't even started on Northern Ireland, Yorkshire, or the North West yet.

Still think "the North" has contributed fuck all do you?

It seems obvious there'd need to be more planning and resources for areas of high population in the south/SE as increased chance of damage and loss of life.

@Hospedia let's not forget we have renowned specialist hospitals that take cases from all over the uk. I guess they get paid in monkey nuts

Can’t you see how insulting that is?

[quote Mumofsend]@ChoiceMummy you do know devon, Cornwall, Somerset and Kent have some of the most significant areas of poverty in the country.. right? I'm so Southern I am a 3 minute walk from the south coast beach and quite can't get my head around your comment.[/quote]
Benefits make up higher proportion of incomes in the North.
Pupils from the north are less likely to achieve straight A grades at A level. Pupils in the North are 40% less likely to achieve top GCSE grades.
Yes there exists great poverty in the South, absolutely, and you don't hear everyone in the South bleating about how badly done to they are in comparison to the North do you?

@ChoiceMummy I think you missed what the thread is about. It's nothing to do with economics. Can I ask... were you bombarded with media coverage over storm arwen and its aftermath? Would London accept businesses, people being without power for weeks? Of course not. Plans have been put in place. Nothing was out in place for the north east. It took a week after the storm to get any assistance.

Yanbu. I've just returned from a trip to Northumberland and was stunned at the damage still left there. I had no idea for example, that over 1000 trees at Cragside alone had been uprooted. It must have been such an awful night, I can't imagine how scary it was.

[quote DementedPanda]@ChoiceMummy I think you missed what the thread is about. It's nothing to do with economics. Can I ask... were you bombarded with media coverage over storm arwen and its aftermath? Would London accept businesses, people being without power for weeks? Of course not. Plans have been put in place. Nothing was out in place for the north east. It took a week after the storm to get any assistance.[/quote]
Yes, I was fully aware of storm Arwen and the impact on the North. Likewise the various floods that haven't impacted my region either.

I don't see any big conspiracy.

Maybe you could try helping the poor Northern souls instead of castigating them?

@ChoiceMummy on this thread alone there have been numerous posters who were unaware of arwen, it's red status and the damage, death and disaster that followed. There (probably) isn't a soul in the whole of the UK who isn't aware of this storm.

Just because you somehow knew all about it doesn't mean that it was fairly represented

@Peachesandcream15

Oh no. I’m planning a trip to Cragside at the end of March.

Of course! I get it now, you think because we live in the North we are all sheep farmers and have no idea how to function in modern times

@JayAlfredPrufrock lots of info on the website on what is open and what isn't. They may have opened more by then.

Hi all,
Just a reminder to, you know, BE NICE.
Thanks.

YANBU

I have felt awful today. There's another thread talking about the impact of being told to stay home and it bringing back lockdown.

For me it brings back Arwen. I thought I was going to lose my bloody mind. Ten days, two kids under three, no power. My children's garden smashed to a million bits, infront of them. All set in concrete. Trees blocking our house which roots must be ten foot and hundreds of years old.

It might surprise some to learn that I know personally two families still without power, now. Of course the power companies are running them on generators but they still have not got them back on grid.

None of the was forecast at that extent for us. No schools were closed. Hand on heart I think it will take years to overcome the damage, entire forestry sections gone. It's unbelievable

That sounds horrendous @Peasandcabbage

@DementedPanda I thought it was Wales who are sheep and you lot up north just sit on your bums

@Mumofsend well you know... we have to have something to watch while sat

you don't hear everyone in the South bleating about how badly done to they are in comparison to the North do you?

Hello, I’d like to welcome you to any thread/article/mention about housing, at all, ever.

@Peachesandcream15

Yanbu. I've just returned from a trip to Northumberland and was stunned at the damage still left there. I had no idea for example, that over 1000 trees at Cragside alone had been uprooted. It must have been such an awful night, I can't imagine how scary it was.

Kielder was really badly affected too, tens of thousands of trees that have been there for decades were uprooted.