Response to storm Arwen vs Eunice

[ArwenVsEunice]

Curious to hear other peoples POV. Does anyone feel let down by the government’s response to storm Eunice versus storm Arwen, both with rare red warning storms?

For Eunice the Government have held an emergency cobra meeting, thousands of schools have been closed and there’s huge national media coverage. I think this absolutely is the right thing to do.

When Arwen was brewing there was no cobra meeting, just general advice to be careful from the Met Office. it was in the media but only to a very small extent www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-59419772. We live in the areas affected by Arwen and it was pretty terrifying when it hit. It took out trees and roofs local to where we live, at PIL it blew down their garden wall and fencing and left a 6ft hole. It knocked out power to nearly 250,000 homes. It took at least 5 days to get the army in to help those still cut off. I’ve not seen anything like it in my lifetime.

The optimistic part of me likes to think the government learnt from Arwen and have now pulled their socks up to deal with Eunice the way they should have done but the cynical part of me just feels like they weren’t bothered about Arwen as it was up in Scotland and the North East

AIBU to feel this way?

YANBU - it’s yet another example of the government not caring unless its a problem that affects the south/London

YABU - the government didn’t recognise the severity of Arwen and have learnt from their mistakes with Eunice

Bloody hell the thread took a turn. Some of the posts are really unnecessary and I won't be engaging with them. Suggest others don't either. I just hope everyone caught in storm Eunice is keeping safe. I do think the thread has shown that a lot of people didn't know the severity of Arwen. I get that those not living in the area may not have seen it but it's kind of shown that there was a lot less coverage in the media. I do take on board though that the areas affected by Eunice are more populated and include the capital so it makes sense that's why it's in the news more. The most bizarre thing I've seen today is that people actually think houses up north are built better to withstand storms. My dad works in the building trade and I can tell you that's not true!

Ah @Peasandcabbage I'm so sorry to hear that. I think that's what was on my mind when I decided to make the thread. I know personally a few people who really struggled after Arwen and I felt that the red warning just wasn't taken seriously by those in charge. I'm glad it's been taken seriously for Eunice though

@TeloMere

It seems obvious there'd need to be more planning and resources for areas of high population in the south/SE as increased chance of damage and loss of life.

So the areas of high population in the north don't deserve planning and resources then?

Millions of people, high profile businesses and important national resources can be found in Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Hull, Bradford, Glasgow, Sheffield, Newcastle, Edinburgh etc etc.

Meh always been the same hasn't it, southern nancys sitting under the stairs with tea lights and a flask of hot water, northerners put their coats on. Tongue in cheek of course but it's understandable that people in the north get fucked off when it comes to stuff like this

YANBU OP. I thought the exact same. Front page news everywhere, even abroad. I live in the North East. To the point that my dad messaged me earlier asking if we were okay but he didn't even know there had been a storm when I told him about the damage from Storm Arwen in our area (we had no power thankfully only for a day).

Yep, dh and I were talking about this earlier. There is always so much more media coverage when London is affected. It's like the rest of the country doesn't count unless it affects London too

southern nancys sitting under the stairs with tea lights and a flask of hot water, northerners put their coats on

Have enough southern nancys (sic) died yet, or do you want a few more before that chip on your shoulder is balanced?

@ArwenVsEunice exactly. And I was so pleased to see you thread because it summed up exactly how upset I felt. My lowest moment I cried hysterically to a poor lady at sp energy networks. Proper sobbing. We had no hot water, they set up soup kitchens which were an hours drive away.

There were no generators because absolutely correctly they went to those unwell or on long term power cut.

I pulled myself together and we got into a routine but she took my tears. She called me from home the next day as she was so worried about me. Just caught me at a low with everything.

We have still had no compensation. That's proactive on their part, so we can't chase it up. They have paid it to my closest village, in error, they had power, so that's stung a bit.

Still I missed Black Friday sales so saved there

@Ifailed

southern nancys sitting under the stairs with tea lights and a flask of hot water, northerners put their coats on

Have enough southern nancys (sic) died yet, or do you want a few more before that chip on your shoulder is balanced?

Calm yourself down as I specifically said it was tongue in cheek

@FrasierCraneDay

Meh always been the same hasn't it, southern nancys sitting under the stairs with tea lights and a flask of hot water, northerners put their coats on. Tongue in cheek of course but it's understandable that people in the north get fucked off when it comes to stuff like this

Come on, it's not any fairer to generalise and insult just because you say it's tongue in cheek.

@Peasandcabbage

I hear you have a two trillion pound cheque due out any day now

@kittensinthekitchen whilst I absolutely love this, I fear my fate is many, many hours on hold till I yet again lose the will to live and give up

I respectfully disagree, it is relevant to the discussion which is the difference between the responses to the storms. One hits the south and there is a cobra meeting. One hits the north and......nothing.

[quote Peasandcabbage]@kittensinthekitchen whilst I absolutely love this, I fear my fate is many, many hours on hold till I yet again lose the will to live and give up[/quote]
Yes, I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke about it.

I have every sympathy for you and what you've been and are continuing to go through. I hope everything is back to normal soon and the trauma isn't too long lived ❤️️

@kittensinthekitchen not at all, I need more laughter, to hold me up for the call! But yes today I am cross, and bloody sad.

I still can’t believe the aftermath of Arwen. I have never seen anything like it.

Towards Dunns - several areas, each with 50 or more mature trees, maybe 30 years old and several meters around the trunk. Snapped. SNAPPED!. Right through the thickest part of the trunk, 5-10 meters up in the air. Whole groups of them, all snapped the same way at the same height. They must have sounded like cannons going off. Looked like the aftermath of a mention or a bomb on a sci-fi movie.

Towards Moffat, rows of trees 10m high gone down like dominoes. The entire 5m wide rootball of each tree completely uprooted. And by “rows” I mean the first row of 50 ten meter high trees, lying on top of the second row of 50 ten meter high trees, going on for rows and rows and rows. Thousand of trees.

Down the A1, an entire forest just completely flattened, Another one which is now just a series of 5m high broken trunks, snapped straight through like twigs, the same as the others.

That’s just the trees. I won’t get started on the wildlife, property … There were hundreds of seal-pups lost off of art Abbs

@StarsAndSugarlumps yes, this absolutely. Then I think these are the bits people see, the valleys, my goodness. Absolutely destroyed

@JaninaDuszejko

Anyone remember the big storm in 2016 when windspeeds hit 144mph in Scotland? Thought not. While I think it's true that houses in northern Scotland are designed to cope with a 'big wind' as we call them that's not true in the NE of England. My Dad was genuinely horrified at the construction of our house in NE England and told me 'but you'll lose all your slates when it's windy'. We lived there 15 years and never lost a slate due to the wind. Also trees make a big wind more dangerous, this is not an issue in the north of Scotland.

Oh I do! Seem to remember it was called hurricane bawbag 😂😂 but then I'm Scottish and lived in a red warning area.

@Peasandcabbage I am sorry you have had such a difficult time

@MajorCarolDanvers I'm not meaning to be rude, I'm just genuinely wondering if you understand what is being said here and if you know the meanings of some words because your posts so far suggest not.

I was thinking this watching news today .I live in be Scotland I was without power for 5 days no phone signal either , schools shut .
I also lost power for 3 days with storm Malik more recently whilst I had Covid!!
Today we have 20 cm of snow that fell today .
I have had 8 days without power recently 5 days out of work as schools shut no power and today snow .
Imagine the news if this was the SE !

Yesterday we had the same winds than the South (according to the met Office) The south had a red weather warning whilst we had yellow-oh and we also had snow. How does that work?!

@ABCDEF1234 my family in the Midlands didn't have close to the winds we did on the south coast let alone further north.

Sturgeon should of took responsibility for Scotland but because it was the NE of Scotland she didn't give a crap.

10 days some people where left with no power.

She is a disgrace to Scotland and like Boris only cares about the capital and surrounding areas

@feelingdizzy

I was thinking this watching news today .I live in be Scotland I was without power for 5 days no phone signal either , schools shut . I also lost power for 3 days with storm Malik more recently whilst I had Covid!! Today we have 20 cm of snow that fell today . I have had 8 days without power recently 5 days out of work as schools shut no power and today snow . Imagine the news if this was the SE !

Surely that is on sturgeon, not the "southern nancys"?