Response to storm Arwen vs Eunice

[ArwenVsEunice]

Curious to hear other peoples POV. Does anyone feel let down by the government’s response to storm Eunice versus storm Arwen, both with rare red warning storms?

For Eunice the Government have held an emergency cobra meeting, thousands of schools have been closed and there’s huge national media coverage. I think this absolutely is the right thing to do.

When Arwen was brewing there was no cobra meeting, just general advice to be careful from the Met Office. it was in the media but only to a very small extent www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-59419772. We live in the areas affected by Arwen and it was pretty terrifying when it hit. It took out trees and roofs local to where we live, at PIL it blew down their garden wall and fencing and left a 6ft hole. It knocked out power to nearly 250,000 homes. It took at least 5 days to get the army in to help those still cut off. I’ve not seen anything like it in my lifetime.

The optimistic part of me likes to think the government learnt from Arwen and have now pulled their socks up to deal with Eunice the way they should have done but the cynical part of me just feels like they weren’t bothered about Arwen as it was up in Scotland and the North East

AIBU to feel this way?

YANBU - it’s yet another example of the government not caring unless its a problem that affects the south/London

YABU - the government didn’t recognise the severity of Arwen and have learnt from their mistakes with Eunice

@SliceOfCakeCupOfTea

I know, seeings how I wrote it.

I'm wondering why you're calling other posters ignorant when you didn't realise arwen was a red storm

I have not called a single person ignorant.

@MajorCarolDanvers hello 👋 yes you did

@firstchopanonion

YANBU OP. Yesterday I had R4 on driving home and they were talking about how incredibly rare it is to have a red weather warning, weather like this not seen for years, and I was thinking... what? We just HAD a red warning storm a few weeks ago. C. 8 million trees down on our local estate - the devastation is still very visible and deeply upsetting.

And, yes, lives were lost, and I believe that more would have been if not for the actions of community groups, neighbours like the pp who handed out candles, neighbours like my friend who took thermoses of hot water and hot food round to all the elderly on her street (we were lucky not to lose power for long).

I'm going to ignore the post by @ChoiceMummy who seems to think the north should be left to fend for itself in every matter despite the so far failing promise's by the government to 'level up' the north (or whatever phrasing you'd like).

I've just watched the 6 o'clock news and they clarified this was the first red weather warning for London since the new method of recording came in 10 years ago. So this seems to be influencing the headlines and therefore what people think. I'm not sure when the last red weather warning was for London but it could've been 11 years ago if they're only counting using the new system.

[quote ontana]@MajorCarolDanvers hello 👋 yes you did [/quote]
I invited you to look in the mirror in response to your rude post.

@WabbitsAndWeasels They weren't discussing it in terms of being a red warning for London though - just in terms of being a red warning generally. That's why I was so

@MajorCarolDanvers I don't think you know what that phrase means.

You quoted someone saying that people were ignorant to not realise that both storms have been equally classified and told them to look in the mirror, therefore implying that you thought they were ignorant...

@BobbinHood

Pennine and proud here 😉

@ChoiceMummy

Hospedia

We don't hate the South, we'd just like to be given the same amount of consideration and some funding.

Perhaos when the North contributes even close to what the South does then, there will be more of an equal footing.
As far as I can see, the North has certainly, in my lifetime of 5 decades been subsidised by the South. This is in terms of raising the least revenue for the country as a whole, draining the country of the most money in benefits, the poorer educational outcomes cannot be explained by being the fault of the educational system can they, parents need to take responsibility. There are plenty of children in poverty in the South managing to achieve in incredibly difficult situations. Likewise generations of unemployed in the North who have no intention of ever working, yet we're all aware of the cheaper cost of living in the North and North East the fact that minimum wage for example would buy more than in the south.
If there was a difference in response, probably the south does need prioritising given the contribution it is making to keep the country going.

Sorry, my fellow northerners and I will try and contribute more. Who shall I make the cheque out to?

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@ChoiceMummy

Hospedia

We don't hate the South, we'd just like to be given the same amount of consideration and some funding.

Perhaos when the North contributes even close to what the South does then, there will be more of an equal footing.
As far as I can see, the North has certainly, in my lifetime of 5 decades been subsidised by the South. This is in terms of raising the least revenue for the country as a whole, draining the country of the most money in benefits, the poorer educational outcomes cannot be explained by being the fault of the educational system can they, parents need to take responsibility. There are plenty of children in poverty in the South managing to achieve in incredibly difficult situations. Likewise generations of unemployed in the North who have no intention of ever working, yet we're all aware of the cheaper cost of living in the North and North East the fact that minimum wage for example would buy more than in the south.
If there was a difference in response, probably the south does need prioritising given the contribution it is making to keep the country going.

Such a disgustingly ignorant post I don’t know where to start!

Wtf am I reading? The North may have some areas of poverty but there's a lot of very wealthy areas and professional people. What a bloody stupid statement and nothing to do with what this thread is originally about .

One things for certain, I don't see the northerners slagging the southerners off as a group. Shame on you.

Imagine being the type of person to think we should portion out media attention by economic output?

It's just a tenuous link to crowbar in ridiculous drivel.

@ChoiceMummy you do know devon, Cornwall, Somerset and Kent have some of the most significant areas of poverty in the country.. right? I'm so Southern I am a 3 minute walk from the south coast beach and quite can't get my head around your comment.

[quote SliceOfCakeCupOfTea]@MajorCarolDanvers I don't think you know what that phrase means.

You quoted someone saying that people were ignorant to not realise that both storms have been equally classified and told them to look in the mirror, therefore implying that you thought they were ignorant... [/quote]
If you and your chum don't know the meaning of words can I suggest a dictionary.

What a dump up north

I was horrified by the response to Arwen. It's outrageous that people were without power for days on end, so no heating, hot water or cooking.

I get that more people are affected because the population density is greated in the south, but that doesn't excuse the length of time it took to get things back to normal after Arwen.

I live 5 miles from the south coast. It was bloody windy, there were trees down which were cleared quickly, there were few power cuts and those that there were quickly sorted. I live at the top of a hill and it's breezy here even on a still day, but the power stayed on, the internet was fine and if it wasn't for the occasional brief loss of tv signal and the noise, you'd scarcely have known it was happening.

@LakieLady a huge portion of my town lost power 10.30 and looking like it won't be back until at least 11pm tomorrow. I'm a 3 minute walk from the beach

[quote ChoiceMummy]@WabbitsAndWeasels
That whole levelling up crap is exactly that, crap. If we have not managed to get those in the North to change their mindset since the 70s, wtf should we now just throw even more money North?
There isn't some apartheid here. There is though such a thing as throwing good money after bad! If people in the North have chosen not to take the same opportunities to move themselves on economically, that's their choices. End of.[/quote]
Fucking hell.

It’s probably because London is so much more densely populated.

Major honestly mate, just stop. You've made a royal tit out of yourself.

Perhaps when the North contributes even close to what the South does then, there will be more of an equal footing.

London was built up over the last century on funds from industry, oil, and manufacturing from the North (and for the purposes of the discussion by "North" I mean Northern England, Northern Ireland, and Scotland seeing as we're viewed as one homogeneous mass of poverty-stricken inbreds with no education and weird accents). It was the rest of the UK who supported London in becoming a global centre, would be nice if that was acknowledged.

If "the North" is so shit maybe we should just fuck off. Of course we'll take our gas, our oil, our crops, our fishing, our agriculture, our public sector workers, our chemicals, our vehicles, and our other manufacturing industries with us. We will also take Asda, Morrisons, and the Co-operative Group (including their banking arm), we'll take our robotics and high technology sectors with us, we'll have every single atom of graphene back and you're not having any more of it because that's ours, we discovered it. We'll be keeping the BBC, ITV, Channel Four, and The Guardian. Lloyd's? RBS? TSB? Halifax? Yorkshire Bank? Fenwick? Jet2? Marks & Spencer? Ours. We'll have the whiskey and the whisky. Steel, ours. Shipbuilding and most of your textiles? Hand them over.

And let's not mention the tourism.

London would be royally fucked without the rest of us.

@ChoiceMummy contributing more to GDP?! We are human beings up here you know!

Well said @Hospedia

@ChoiceMummy it’s all relative when a tree falls on your house or elderly people and young children are left with out power, hot water, heating and shelter for nearly 2 weeks, oh you don’t contribute as much so we will just piss about getting it sorted. Fucking hell.