Will you self isolate if covid positive test?

[Monopolyiscrap]

Compulsory self-isolation is ending if you test positive with covid. Instead, people are being advised to choose to self-isolate.
In reality, I think many people will not. I would not get paid if I self-isolate but am well enough to work, so why would I forego a week's wages?

So will you self-isolate if you test positive with covid?

YABU - Yes I will self-isolate
YANBU - No I will not self-isolate

@workwoes123

Hows it going to work for vulnerable people? My manger is physically quite frail and definitely CEV and my closest colleague is undergoing cancer treatment so her immune system is seriously compromised. They’ve both carried on working throughout (we are in a school) and it’s been possible because of the strict rules about masking, testing, isolation et. (we aren’t in the U.K.). Under the no testing, no isolation required rules, what happens to them ?

Also, I’m in a book group with a lot ofolder people, some vulnerable. I’ve got a feeling that they will want to keep testing before we meet up in person. Would you do that - test if someone specifically asked you to ?

Ask @Toanewstart23

I would like to know why people think it’s ok to go with this no, when it’s clear that the Prime Minister wants to distract from his shit show of a government?

As a country, we have fantastic scientists and poor politicians. People know this, but follow the politics in this case instead of listening to the science.

Sometimes science tells us things we don’t want to hear. Sadly we didn’t learn that lesson in March 2020, and there is a risk we may ignore that lesson almost exactly two years later.

(Assuming you were actually ill of course...because I wouldn't be actually testing unless I felt ill).

I wouldn’t go to work for a week if I knew I was positive, but other than that, no.

@AFIK
Presumably the majority will therefore be happy for their elderly/vulnerable relatives to be treated by nhs staff with “colds” that haven’t been tested for covid and potentially given a deadly virus
But the elephant in the room is that the virus is being carried and transmitted by a huge amount of completely asymptomatic people and people that haven't yet developed symptoms. Unless the vulnerable are prepared to live in complete isolation then they will encounter the virus at some point, whether it be in the supermarket, at the doctors or through their own family and friends. This is true if we maintain current isolation rules or if we don't, it's just isolation rules might slow down the spread slightly.

Any benefits from the rules need to be balanced against the risks and disadvantages of keeping them in place. For most people (including most vulnerable people), covid is a relatively minor illness and when push comes to shove, we would rather have society where the infrastructure isn't continually hampered by people self isolating, reducing our capacity to function efficiently, effectively and compassionately. I can cite numerous examples in my own life of how people (often vulnerable) have lost so much as a result of the isolation rules. Keeping the self isolation rules has a cost to us all and shouldn't be considered the default or the 'kinder' thing to do.

Dunno, ask my boss.

I easily could, as I wfh 3 days a week anyway and can easily wfh all the time for an isolation period (as I’m doing now with covid).

The issue would be whether I’d be allowed to. Company policy is to be in the office twice a week - if I wasn’t actually unwell I’m not sure extra wfh would be approved. So it wouldn’t necessarily be up to me.

Plus I agree with posters who’ve said that soon we won’t know if it’s covid anyway, unless we’re ill enough to warrant testing. I don’t think free PCRs for anyone with mild symptoms will continue.

When people get chicken pox, D&V, etc are they advised to carry on? Nope. They’re expected to stay away from other people

The big difference though is that it’s pretty obvious when you have d&v or chicken pox. With covid lots have really mild symptoms that are just like a cold, or no symptoms so unless you test you don’t know that you have it. People just won’t be testing anymore for cold symptoms, especially when the tests cost money, as they won’t be free anymore from summer.

[quote Bumpitybumper]@AFIK
Presumably the majority will therefore be happy for their elderly/vulnerable relatives to be treated by nhs staff with “colds” that haven’t been tested for covid and potentially given a deadly virus
But the elephant in the room is that the virus is being carried and transmitted by a huge amount of completely asymptomatic people and people that haven't yet developed symptoms. Unless the vulnerable are prepared to live in complete isolation then they will encounter the virus at some point, whether it be in the supermarket, at the doctors or through their own family and friends. This is true if we maintain current isolation rules or if we don't, it's just isolation rules might slow down the spread slightly.

Any benefits from the rules need to be balanced against the risks and disadvantages of keeping them in place. For most people (including most vulnerable people), covid is a relatively minor illness and when push comes to shove, we would rather have society where the infrastructure isn't continually hampered by people self isolating, reducing our capacity to function efficiently, effectively and compassionately. I can cite numerous examples in my own life of how people (often vulnerable) have lost so much as a result of the isolation rules. Keeping the self isolation rules has a cost to us all and shouldn't be considered the default or the 'kinder' thing to do.[/quote]
They’ve already reduced the isolation period significantly.

More and more research is coming out about covid showing that even if mild it elevates risk of heart disease for everyone who gets it. Do you may well think you’re fine but later on, you may not be.

What about long covid?

Ending self isolation just means more transmission.

Boris Johnson announced this out of the blue and has no plan at the time of announcement.

He should have left the original date of the end of March to give the experts enough time to recommend a sensible plan for living with covid.

Instead we’ll end up with a jumbled, Prosecco filled rush mess.

All for the sake of his reputation.

*As a country, we have fantastic scientists and poor politicians. People know this, but follow the politics in this case instead of listening to the science.
*
The scientists were completely wrong on Omicrom and haven't been heard from since.

LFTs are going to be £30 for a box of 7 from March, so I’ve heard. So I doubt the majority of people will know they have it as they won’t be testing.

If I'm ill I'll stay off work as usual. If I can get on with it then why would I give up the pay? I don't get paid for covid related stuff as it is and am a bit tired of using annual leave for something that has been forced on me.

Yes. I can't work from home and I'll go for walks. I wouldn't go to a shop while I was poorly.

I won't know as I won't be testing. J had covid completely asymptomatical. As did my elderly cancer ridden father in law.

I'll do what I've done with other illnesses. Last week I had a stinker of a cold so took to my bed for two days until symptoms passed. Before Xmas I had a mild cold so cracked on with life but didn't go to visit my granny.

We have staff and I will be thrilled when this comes in. The self isolation rules for people showing no symptoms have been so hard. One or two odd bods have completely taken advantage of the system and kissed off everyone else. They work in big big open spaces by themselves. If they feel fine (obviously if they feel crap that's a different matter) there is no reason why they shouldn't work. They all agree!

@TicTacHoh

*As a country, we have fantastic scientists and poor politicians. People know this, but follow the politics in this case instead of listening to the science. *The scientists were completely wrong on Omicrom and haven't been heard from since.

? We got lucky with omicron. And Chris Whitty basically told everyone to be careful over Christmas, most people did and lo and behold rates luckily stayed low to give time for people to get boosters.

The bit they got “wrong” was modelling but the key bit is they know that and adjust accordingly.

Do you know how science works? It adapts and updates according to the latest facts.

I’d rather listen to a scientist than our current Prime Minister.

All I’m saying is the government should give more than two weeks to come up with a plan for living with a novel virus!

I will continue to test and I will self isolate. I have a disabled son who is immunocompromised. I would not want to risk him or indeed present a risk to anyone like him out in the wider community.

That said, I am self employed and can work from home so it is easy for me to self isolate. I will continue to test my son three times a week like I do currently and I would pay for LFTs if we had to pay for them. However again, it is easy for me to do so because I am not (at the moment anyway) financially stretched.

I won't completely SI, but will not visit the my elderly or vulnerable family members or go to my indoor sport classes.
I will test if the care home continues to ask obviously. I am an Essential Care Giver and have been able to continue to visit my FIL when the home has been closed due to an outbreak (thankfully within the staff not the residents recently)

@TicTacHoh

*As a country, we have fantastic scientists and poor politicians. People know this, but follow the politics in this case instead of listening to the science. * The scientists were completely wrong on Omicrom and haven't been heard from since.

Can you expand on how they were wrong?

@Sharrowgirl

LFTs are going to be £30 for a box of 7 from March, so I’ve heard. So I doubt the majority of people will know they have it as they won’t be testing.

That’ll do it then, there’s no way I’m paying £30 for a box.

I think the scientists have not been heard of because they cannot and will not lie about the 'desirability' of packing in self isolation to save BJ's arse and so he will not let them anywhere near a press conference.

Interesting to read all the different views. Trying to get me head around it. I doubt I'll test if i don't have symptoms. But presumably that won't work, if so many people are asymptomatic?

Yes.

@TheOrigRights

So basically you’ll avoid your vulnerable family members but fuck those you don’t know?

@ArtemisDarling

I think the scientists have not been heard of because they cannot and will not lie about the 'desirability' of packing in self isolation to save BJ's arse and so he will not let them anywhere near a press conference.

I agree and I think it’s appalling.

They should at the very least let the scientists publish their advice even if they choose to ignore it. We don’t live in fucking North Korea.

I didn't know that they will cost £30 as of March.

[quote OnceuponaRainbow18]@TheOrigRights

So basically you’ll avoid your vulnerable family members but fuck those you don’t know?[/quote]
No, i gave an example of where I wouldn't go to an enclosed space (sport class) which indicates I do care about others. To be more clear I would avoid shops, cinema etc. Do you want me to list all possible places?
But I will still go outside - running or taking my son to his football.