Will you self isolate if covid positive test?

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Compulsory self-isolation is ending if you test positive with covid. Instead, people are being advised to choose to self-isolate.
In reality, I think many people will not. I would not get paid if I self-isolate but am well enough to work, so why would I forego a week's wages?

So will you self-isolate if you test positive with covid?

YABU - Yes I will self-isolate
YANBU - No I will not self-isolate

I'm quite happy to carry on wearing a mask. I wanted to wear one in the past when I had a cold or something, but as it's more normal to see people with masks nobody will blink an eye if I do.

But I won't be isolating if I can crack on. Just can't afford to give up the pay. If people don't like that then it's sad but they aren't willing to top up my pay so what can you do?

I can't believe how many selfish people are prepared to spread Covid around to the rest of the population.

Here we go again.

So those people who don't get sick pay and will struggle to pay their bills when they can't work. What should they do? Are you putting your hands in your pockets to help them?

@AndAnotherNewOne

I can't believe how many selfish people are prepared to spread Covid around to the rest of the population.

It's still killing people.

Why would you put people at risk?

I expect you're too selfish to wear a mask when you go out infected as well.

Can we stop calling people selfish for wanting to crack on with their lives and be able to support their families?

I'm cev, and I'm not going to allow others to be responsible for my health. It's on me to take the precautions to protect myself and look after myself. Not everybody else.

@AndAnotherNewOne

I can't believe how many selfish people are prepared to spread Covid around to the rest of the population.

It's still killing people.

Why would you put people at risk?

I expect you're too selfish to wear a mask when you go out infected as well.

Wow you havent bothered readin any of these posts Have you @AndAnotherNewOne.

Calling people selfish over this is like the word transphobic, bigot , fascist etc. A way of trying to embarrass people into changing their Sensible view.

It is not selfish to want to have an ordinary life.

It is not sensible to spend billions of pounds on this single disease when we now have a vaccine, and there are hundreds of other conditions that need the money too.

@AndAnotherNewOne oh and also, most of us won't know we've even got covid as people will just stop testing once tests are no longer free

Come June, retrospectively looking back at this thread is going to be FASCINATING.

There are so many people who are just not in step with how this is going to be managed over the next couple of months and how the elements of choice about 'being selfish' is going to be dismantled and people are going to have to deal with that change emotionally and practically.

The government and the UKHRA are both in step here in saying that by summer we are moving to a situation where regular free mass testing isn't going to be available.

Thats going to be more difficult for some to accept than others given responses on this thread. There is a recognition that there needs to be a readjustment long term on thinking on this for society to start functioning again.

If covid is to be endemic, that means that if you are talking about being 'selfish' you intend to purchase testing kits for the rest of your life. Whilst that may remain relatively cheap (but still might not be within the means of everyone, particularly on a regular basis for asymptomatic testing) for a while, i cant see that continuing long term. At some point as demand drops, production and shipping costs will rise and prices will go up. I can well see in years to come that tests will become hard to get and much more expensive as a result.

It does make me curious as to how people think in long term on this and what they see as normal this winter, next winter, in 5 years time and in 20 years time.

I just don’t test anymore so problem solved. One of the many viruses I’ve had over the years probably spread to someone it killed, that’s the way life works. If I feel ill I’ll stay at home but then I am lucky and have good sick pay and a secure job.

Any illness can be serious for some people. A few years ago my fit and healthy husband had a minor cold which developed into a chest infection which became pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung. Just bad luck.

@AndAnotherNewOne

I can't believe how many selfish people are prepared to spread Covid around to the rest of the population.

It's still killing people.

Why would you put people at risk?

I expect you're too selfish to wear a mask when you go out infected as well.

"Selfish" is so overused in respect of covid it's lost all meaning.

It now seems to mean "if you don't do what I want you to do, you are selfish"

People won't know if they have covid. As people will stop testing, especially if tests are no longer free. We will all have to go back to "if you are ill you stay home" just like before covid.

People are not selfish by wanting to be able to earn money to feed their families. Employers are not selfish by wanting staff who are not ill to come into work. What we need to try and avoid is high unemployment as I do wonder then how the "people are so selfish" will react if their taxes go up further as a result.

People are not selfish by wanting to be able to earn money to feed their families.

And if going to work causes others to become I’ll and not be able to earn money to feed their families?

It's still killing people

And it will continue to do so henceforth, we can't permanently restructure society around that fact though.

@AndAnotherNewOne

I can't believe how many selfish people are prepared to spread Covid around to the rest of the population.

It's still killing people.

Why would you put people at risk?

I expect you're too selfish to wear a mask when you go out infected as well.

Lmfao

@LaChanticleer

People are not selfish by wanting to be able to earn money to feed their families.

And if going to work causes others to become I’ll and not be able to earn money to feed their families?

You look after your own family first and foremost

That's what you do

* I don’t want blood on my hands.*

I’m not squeamish in the slightest so I’d have no problem with this.
Hence I stay in if I actually feel ill
If not - out and about
I won’t know if covid, as won’t test. Ever again.

* Why would you put people at risk?*

Because I’d like to see my son play football
Because I’d like to go for a coffee with a friend
And I’d quote like to earn enough money to pay the extortionate holiday I’ve booked for this summer

@LaChanticleer

People are not selfish by wanting to be able to earn money to feed their families.

And if going to work causes others to become I’ll and not be able to earn money to feed their families?

So what's your solution? Everyone stay home? How does that work?

What happened pre covid? After all covid isn't the only virus that can cause serious health issues in some.

I don't consider it 'selfish' to take basic steps to prevent the spread of disease. Pre-Covid this was considered a basic courtesy to fellow human beings across much of Asia. Going into work or school ill just wasn't done, they wore masks etc. They have thriving economies along with low unemployment.

This notion of 'I should be allowed to spread my germs if I want to' is bizarre.

And if going to work causes others to become I’ll and not be able to earn money to feed their families?

People will generally put their own family needs first.
Does anyone give 90% of their food shop to the food bank and then let their own children go hungry? No they meet their own families needs first and then donate.

In "much of Asia" people live in poverty and certainly wouldn't be able to forego work if they were mildly ill.
It's not all South Korea and Japan.

@LaChanticleer

People are not selfish by wanting to be able to earn money to feed their families.

And if going to work causes others to become I’ll and not be able to earn money to feed their families?

Well it’s one or the one there isn’t it?

Them or me

And I’m going to choose me (and my children)

And I have no qualms about that in any shape or form

@Pinkyxx

I don't consider it 'selfish' to take basic steps to prevent the spread of disease. Pre-Covid this was considered a basic courtesy to fellow human beings across much of Asia. Going into work or school ill just wasn't done, they wore masks etc. They have thriving economies along with low unemployment.

This notion of 'I should be allowed to spread my germs if I want to' is bizarre.

Pakistan? India?

Maybe we should be China where you are effectively imprisoned if there are 7 cases in your city of several million?

Perhaps we could talk about Vietnam. Or Cambodia.

Maybe we could talk about Singapore and how most cases have been in immigrant labour which got locked up for months. Or how their trace system is run very differently to ours.

Perhaps we could talk about how obesity levels being different between the uk and japan.

Perhaps we could talk about job security in Japan and how jobs for life still are much more common (although this is changing). I'm not terribly convinced that they have as many workers on zero hours contracts.

Or how social conformity is so entrenched in Japan and South Korea that the culture of shame has become a problem. South Korea has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world and Japan has been long acknowledged to also have a big problem with it.

Yep 'Asia'.

@Scianel

In "much of Asia" people live in poverty and certainly wouldn't be able to forego work if they were mildly ill. It's not all South Korea and Japan.

I don't disagree that Asia varies in terms of poverty levels but take a look at their Covid response vs our and more importantly the level of deaths / ongoing cases. I think you'll find they choose, and continue to maintain, an approach that minimizes transmission of disease. the government stepped in to provide relief to all impacted. I'm not sure I feel comfortable with the draconian quarantine measures but culturally it's unsurprising.

No. In theory, I would tell people who I would be coming into close contact with, so they had the option to cancel plans with me, or distance if it was in the workplace. However in practice I doubt I would even know now testing isn't required. When I had covid I only knew from the test.

@RedToothBrush as I think you know I'm referring to public health policy and norms outside of Covid19.

Personally, I'd rather the government in the UK addressed the issues you mentioned rather than pretending Covid19 is gone. Do you think zero hour contracts, job insecurity, wage inflation, or obesity will be resolved by doing so? I doubt it. Pretending Covid19 is gone amounts to just one more issue being ignored.

India is in Asia.

You do realise this don't you?

You also realise that certain populations (japan) have been found to seemingly have a higher genetic resistance to covid?

I've decided not to test again. I've now had Covid twice and had three jabs.
So it's likely I will get Covid again in a year or so, if I am unwell I will stay at home, if not of course I will be out and about. I will treat it as exactly like any other viral infection, such as flu.
I may decide to wear a mask in hot crowded places next winter but, as I don't tend to go to these places anyway, I'll probably not very often.
Covid has encouraged me to be more aware of hand hygiene and I'll continue with that, I never did like hugs and kisses from non family so I now have the perfect excuse to never do all that again