Will you self isolate if covid positive test?

[Monopolyiscrap]

Compulsory self-isolation is ending if you test positive with covid. Instead, people are being advised to choose to self-isolate.
In reality, I think many people will not. I would not get paid if I self-isolate but am well enough to work, so why would I forego a week's wages?

So will you self-isolate if you test positive with covid?

YABU - Yes I will self-isolate
YANBU - No I will not self-isolate

My OP wasn't even about asymptomatic people. Lots of people go to work when ill but well enough to work. If I have symptoms, but can still work, and if I won't get paid if I don't work, I am going to work. Although I would ask if I can be excused from our outreach sessions during the summer holidays with the public - fun corporate stalls.

I totally understand why someone might see this as selfish. But frankly, we need the money. My DP did not get the payment or any pay before when he had to self-isolate, we swallowed that loss of money. But we can't keep doing this. And we can't risk losing our jobs for too many sick days.

It is not about socialising. I would stay away from socialising. It is about having a job and enough money. And if the government are going to do zero to support people to self-isolate, then I am not going to.

@Lima1

You are not going to catch Covid 6/7/8 times a year. We are talking about people who know they have Covid but won’t self isolate.

Most of us won't know as we aren't testing!!

@Lima1
My toddler ended up in hospital for the high resting heart rate when he suffered from upper respiratory tract infection. Had to be monitored. Looong before covid hit us. Viral infections do that sometimes. I ended sup being referred for additional blood tests and a scan because my heart rate was unusually high when I had tonsillitis. 2 years before pandemic. Your point is?

I’ve already isolated for 5 days this month and lost out on 5 days pay. I followed the rules as directed by the current restrictions.

I can’t work from home. So isolating means no pay.
So if I don’t have to isolate , I wouldn’t unless I really had to.

It makes little difference anyway. People who are self employed or who won’t get paid won’t test themselves, or would just ignore a positive test.

The only people I can seeing really isolating, would be people who work from home or who get full sick pay.

Who can afford to lose a weeks wages with everything going up?

Of course, because I am not a psychopath. Same as I would isolate for chicken pox, or flu, or a really streaming cold. And no, I don’t get paid if I don’t work.
The attitude of self-first-and-last is why we have this shit government and the NHS and benefit system are fucked.

I'm really shocked half are saying they will go out and about knowingly passing Covid on to people.
I have some sympathy with people who don't get sick pay/are on 0 hours' contracts and the like, but that's probably not half on this thread.

I get full sick pay for 3 sicknesses per rolling year, but if I feel ok then I won't be using one of them on covid!

I work with a few people who choose to be unvaccinated. They are the ones who need to rethink and change behaviours

When I had covid recently, I didn’t even want to leave the house for much of the time I was positive, so I think I would end up isolating by default. I will certainly be more mindful of being unwell and taking it to enclosed spaces. But we only really test when we have symptoms here as everyone in the household has had covid within the last 3 months.

"I get full sick pay for 3 sicknesses per rolling year, but if I feel ok then I won't be using one of them on covid!"

That's selfish.
Do you expect to need to use your 3 lots?
Covid can be very serious for some people, not only the old and vulnerable people your colleagues may be in contact with, but anyone who gets long Covid.

@MrsWooster

Of course, because I am not a psychopath. Same as I would isolate for chicken pox, or flu, or a really streaming cold. And no, I don’t get paid if I don’t work. The attitude of self-first-and-last is why we have this shit government and the NHS and benefit system are fucked.

How much do you get paid? DP is on average £25k a year.

@MrsWooster
I assume to don’t run a risk of losing your home or stopping feeding your children. Only a psychopath would try and save the world when they can’t feed their children or keep a roof over their heads.

@Gwenhwyfar

I'm really shocked half are saying they will go out and about knowingly passing Covid on to people. I have some sympathy with people who don't get sick pay/are on 0 hours' contracts and the like, but that's probably not half on this thread.

I am not. We are being told the pandemic is over and we should treat covid like any other illness. Why would people isolate themselves?

*you

Hasselhoffsheadband.

Why? Because of the failure to acknowledge that while Covid may be a mild illness for them for a sizeable minority it is not. Having an underlying health problem or an illness in many cases may not mean the person is at death's door. But catching covid on top may do. It is not cold it is still a killer. It means the lives of vulnerable people will become smaller and lived behind closed doors.

Because of the failure to even consider the implications for the NHS which is already under considerable pressure. Thread after thread on MN complaining about the NHS, lack of access to GPs, long waits in A&E, waiting lists for treatment. Allowing Covid to ramp up, picking off the vulnerable isn't going to get the NHS on track.

Everyone is heartily sick of Covid, restrictions and testing but it isn't going away yet. With some consideration most people can get on with their lives. England will be the first country in the world to pretend the virus doesn't exist or have implications for vulnerable people, the NHS and public services. This is a political choice which is not based on the science. It is a political choice of a Government who places the market above saving lives. And being brought forward early to get a lying despot off the hook. What I think is shite about England that if the attitudes displayed on MN are commonly held I am really ashamed to be English.

@Gwenhwyfar

"I get full sick pay for 3 sicknesses per rolling year, but if I feel ok then I won't be using one of them on covid!"

That's selfish.
Do you expect to need to use your 3 lots?
Covid can be very serious for some people, not only the old and vulnerable people your colleagues may be in contact with, but anyone who gets long Covid.

Selfish my arse!! I need those for when/if I'm too sick to work! I won't get paid if they are used up!

Will YOU come and feed my kids and pay my bills then? No,thought not! Ridiculous

If ill stay at home, return to life when healthy again. As per every other illness.

"Selfish my arse!! I need those for when/if I'm too sick to work! I won't get paid if they are used up!"

You expect to be ill more than 3 times in a year? That's a hell of a lot.

I might add that I am not in the vulnerable category

"I am not. We are being told the pandemic is over and we should treat covid like any other illness. Why would people isolate themselves?"

Because Covid is not like any other illness and you know it.
The pandemic may be coming to and end or it may not (depends on new variants, etc.). We just don't know.

I won't be testing so won't be isolating specifically due to having covid. I would however, like with any illness, stay indoors to not pass germs onto other people whilst symptomatic with any illness. I do understand some people are really selfish and have never done this anyway though.

I have 'friends' who have brought their DD to our house knowing she has chicken pox when my DS was 6 weeks old and also in general people who are coughing loads etc in the office when they should and can be at home. In jobs where this isn't possible or you won't get paid then this is trickier of coursebut presumably prior to covid you would have isolated if having something like chicken pox @Monopolyiscrap ? How do you decide what you are willing to pass on to others? I am not being shitty at all but if I felt I may be or knew I was contagious I wouldn't go out at all, but it's easy for me as I get paid if I'm off sick so I was wondering out of interest what happens when you don't get paid?

Hopefully now many people are set up to WFH this will eliminate some of this so will still keep the spread to a minimum.

One of the things I had hoped was that the huge reduction in colds, flu and chicken pox over the last couple of years would make people more aware of how easily things like that can be kept relatively contained if folks are just sensible and considerate.

It’s already back to “Well I feel fine so…”

My youngest is extremely vulnerable. We already know she likely won’t see her twenties. That other people will knowingly happily go out and about with a highly contagious condition is frankly sickening - in the same way people sending their kids to school knowing they have CP or Noro etc has always been.

No doubt the world will be back to its previous grim levels of hand cleanliness soon as well

@Gwenhwyfar

"Selfish my arse!! I need those for when/if I'm too sick to work! I won't get paid if they are used up!"

You expect to be ill more than 3 times in a year? That's a hell of a lot.

I'm getting older and have used one already... who knows?

@JuliaDomna

Hasselhoffsheadband.

Why? Because of the failure to acknowledge that while Covid may be a mild illness for them for a sizeable minority it is not. Having an underlying health problem or an illness in many cases may not mean the person is at death's door. But catching covid on top may do. It is not cold it is still a killer. It means the lives of vulnerable people will become smaller and lived behind closed doors.

Because of the failure to even consider the implications for the NHS which is already under considerable pressure. Thread after thread on MN complaining about the NHS, lack of access to GPs, long waits in A&E, waiting lists for treatment. Allowing Covid to ramp up, picking off the vulnerable isn't going to get the NHS on track.

Everyone is heartily sick of Covid, restrictions and testing but it isn't going away yet. With some consideration most people can get on with their lives. England will be the first country in the world to pretend the virus doesn't exist or have implications for vulnerable people, the NHS and public services. This is a political choice which is not based on the science. It is a political choice of a Government who places the market above saving lives. And being brought forward early to get a lying despot off the hook. What I think is shite about England that if the attitudes displayed on MN are commonly held I am really ashamed to be English.

What attitudes? The attitudes of not being able to afford to take time off work if they aren't ill?

I'm getting older and have used one already... who knows?

And the irony is that the more people that have your attitude the more likely you are to pick something up at work

I'll test if tests are still available & I would self isolate. There are still many vulnerable people who shouldn't be put at unnecessary risk, plus the impact on the health service of not doing so on a mass scale could be huge.