AIBU to say that people in the “real world” absolutely do care about Downing Street parties?

[PuzzledObserver]

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According to Mark Spencer MP, the new leader of the House of Commons, people don’t care about partygate because what really matters to them is their jobs, NHS backlogs and energy prices.

Personally I am capable of caring about all of those AND being incensed by the “do what I say not what I do” attitude of certain members of the Government and its officials.

YABU = of course nobody cares, move on

YANBU = it absolutely matters that they told us one thing and did another themselves.

@SilkySusan

I don't care about the parties per se. I do care - a lot - about the dishonesty, the lying, the coverups. I won't be voting Tory again.

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I don't care either - they were under massive pressure in the office anyway and I really do not give a shit. I think a change in leadership now would be a disaster for the economy and also for the Ikraine situation.

But, if Kier starmer is a leader next time I will vote him in .

I care about the lying, the coverups and the facts that they don't listen to us and then make tone deaf statements.

Thousands of people were not able to be with a loved one when they were dying. People were fined for having small meeting or parties. It's obvious that the rules only applied to us and not the political elite and thier cronies.

I've read that the Tories are waiting until the local election to see how they get on before deciding on Boris's fate. If they do get rid of him then I don't want another rich privileged person like Rishi or Jacob to take his place, I want someone from a working class background who understands the real world which most of us live in. There's nothing worse than a rich privileged person saying I feel your pain, no you don't.

The Tory political elite and the power makers need to realise that we are unhappy and if they continue to ignore us or remain tone deaf to what we're saying then they will quickly become un-electable.

I think we need to make our displeasure heard by contacting the Tory party direct because they won't listen to local MP's and letting them know how unhappy we are and that another rich privileged person leading the party will not improve things.

I don't particularly support either the Tories or Labour, I'm just fed up of the shit show, cover ups and lies we get from this current bunch.

We elect them and they are supposed to be there to represent us, they need to remember that and we need to remind them.

Rant over

Those of you who don't care about Johnson and his colleagues having boozy parties in Downing Street, what about the ordinary people who were fined for doing similar or less? I care about that too. There's a chap living in SE London who was prosecuted for arranging to see friends at his allotment. One rule for him, another for Downing Street?

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I care.
Whilst they were partying my vulnerable mum was isolating, she fell and broke a bone but was too scared to go to hospital for nearly a week in case she got covid.
I've never worked anywhere where meetings involve alcohol, or we've such had a hard week that we've gone off with a suitcase to buy wine.
I'm furious that they think it doesn't matter because it's now what they deem to be historic.
How dare they.

@AndAllOurYesterdays

I do. Everyone I know cares because we remember lockdown and how hard that lack of social interaction was. My 7 year old saw me looking at the news the other day so I explained about Partygate in a kid friendly way, and she was outraged that Boris had a birthday party when she's had to miss two. She definitely cares!

You know something? My Ex-DP and my two DBs have still never forgiven the Conservatives for cancelling their free school milk 50 years ago!

Hopefully that's the sort of long-term damage these lying scum* are doing to the Conservatives again.

*Scum: a worthless person or group of people

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I care. I've never voted Tory in my life and I don't expect I ever will, but I don't write off all Tories as monsters. I don't currently vote Labour either because I'm concerned they have abandoned common sense and science and are pretending we don't any more understand the definition of male/female.

However, I don't accept that it would have been just as bad under Labour. I also don't accept that it would have been just as bad under Theresa May or John Major or Margaret Thatcher (jury's out on David Cameron). Johnson is totally unfit for high political office. He has no integrity. He is a serial liar. He has sacked or passed over all the clever and principled Tory MPs in favour of numpties who won't argue with him.

I wasn't surprised about the party revelations but I am disgusted. The hypocrisy and arrogance is off the scale. How anybody could consider voting for him again is beyond my comprehension.

I completely agree with this

I care, and I totally disagree that this is what the "ruling class" always do. I can't imagine John Major, Theresa May or even David Cameron behaving like this.

@Sideswiped

Maybe I'm being a cynic, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Bojo announced the dropping of restrictions today. How stupid do the tories think the voting masses are?

I thought exactly the same thing.

Everyone I know is upset about the lying, about BJ partying when they couldn't see loved ones, about the fact that BJ is clinging on when it is obvious that the country needs this to be over and that means BJ going.

I honestly don't care. I followed the rules like everyone else. One of my parents was in hospital seriously ill no visitors eventually they died of covid. I still don't care about their party. Covid wasnt anyones fault they were still working and running the country in stressful times. If they had a small gathering for a birthday party I really couldn't care less. I think they should be fined like everyone else but we don't know the facts. I have better things to worry about like the standards of living my family are going to now have

I care. I'm furious but not at all surprised given Johnson is PM. In face I've been furious ever since that useless charlatan took office.

I also care that I am being told that I don't care about these things, are they the bloody thought police now. See also the education secretary Nadhim Zahawi suggesting that pupils should not be criticising Boris Johnson in lessons. I care that we are on a slippery slope, in very strange times. We should all care.

I don't care about partygate per se. It's happened. It shouldn't have, but it's in the past now.

What I care about is what the whole affair tells us about the mendacious, two-faced, conniving, self-centred people running our country.

It matters that they're such a dreadful bunch, because we are all relying on them to sort out jobs, NHS backlogs, energy prices and the rest.

YANBU. I bloody care that they terrified us all and then carried on without a care in the world while we all suffered. I care when my PM is a self-serving liar who cares more about keeping his job (which he's crap at) than resigning so that the government can address the huge problems leaving working and caring families hungry, cold and destitute. I care that he's a laughing stock when the UK needs a credible leader to steer us through the immense challenges of Brexit.

I care because I'd like to think I can trust the people running the country and that they have some standards and decency, and also that Bojo has enough mental acuity to understand the words coming out of his own mouth (without needing an enquiry to tell him whether he stuck to what he, himself, said).

I don’t care any more.

At the time it was outrageous, but they’ve banged on and on and on about it so much that really it’s lost any impact.

There are now bigger fish to fry, nothing is ever going to come of the parties, so it really is time we moved on from that.

@Sideswiped

Maybe I'm being a cynic, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Bojo announced the dropping of restrictions today. How stupid do the tories think the voting masses are?

They think we are very stupid indeed!

I still care , even if Boris Johnson and his bunch of idiots think it's all gone away.
I loath the way they have mugged us all off for years now
People will still vote for them though or just move on, but I won't.

Six posts in and hey presto there it is, the 'they're all the same' statement.
No they fucking arent! Such lazy thinking.

@HotPenguin

I care, and I totally disagree that this is what the "ruling class" always do. I can't imagine John Major, Theresa May or even David Cameron behaving like this.

No Major just lectured us on family values whilst at the same time shagging Edwina Curry!

I'm pretty sure Cameron would have behaved exactly like Bojo - those Eton boys are all alike in their masters of the universe complex.

Its not unlikely there was probably more than booze fuelling those parties - ruling classes have always lectured us about the evils of drugs but the upper echelons of society are awash with Coke! Homosexuality was a crime until the 1960's - pretty sure there was a lot of hypocrites in government when that was the case, lecturing us on the evils of same sex relationships whilst behind closed doors.... It's really not new.

Not sure about May though - she doesn't seem that wild!

Do I care that he was having parties while I was trying to work from home with a toddler? Yes I fucking do. I will not forget.

I think also now that it's easy to forget how things were in the worst of lockdowns, the tiers, the homeschooling, how fearful and compliant we all were. We hung on every word of their press conferences looking for guidance and glimmers of hope. Imagine if knew at the time that after they had issued us with a lecture of scary statistics and stern rules they were retreating to party. It's just galling.

Op I am currently really cross that mr Johnson repeatedly sees fit to tell me what I care about.

The “bread and circuses” approach is blatant.

The attitude appears to be “you ordinary, common folk don’t need or want to worry your tiny little heads with our behaviour, or truth or standards in our government. You ought only be concerned with common things like work and the nhs and vaccines.”

They appear to be saying we’re all too lowly to need concern ourselves with goings on of our betters and sent o be telling off journalists for daring ask questions

It makes me incredibly angry that this attitude seems to go on commented on. How dare that man and his party tell me what is and is not important or in my interest?!

Paternalistic, patronising, manipulative .

@TulipsGarden

Do I care that he was having parties while I was trying to work from home with a toddler? Yes I fucking do. I will not forget.

Hear hear! It must have been hard for months for you, yet here they all were having sodding parties :(

underneaththeash

I don't care either - they were under massive pressure in the office anyway and I really do not give a shit.

ICU doctors and nurses were under massive pressure too. Didn’t see any of them partying. No drinking at work for them! They’d be sacked!!