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He’s not going anywhere is he, old Barnacle Boris?

105 replies

Zoom101 · 06/02/2022 21:33

No matter what is thrown at him, Boris is not going to do the decent thing and step down is he? He’ll cling on until he’s pushed and even then I imagine he’ll stage a sit-in at Number 10.

Surely even he can see his behaviour is appalling and he’s not fit to run the country? So depressing.

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Adeleskirts · 07/02/2022 16:43

What I’m curious to know is if Boris will get shut of rishi. I friggen would. In a heart beat. If someone was trying to take my job and plotting to get me out, I’d do their legs. I’d be having a reshuffle and moving little rishi out into the wilderness,,,And fast. I can’t stand the little toad though.

Iputthetrampintrampoline · 07/02/2022 16:44

You are right OP he is not going anywhere...sadly.even with all the hysteria he knew this and his party the feckless feckers knew this too.

User135644 · 07/02/2022 17:12

@Adeleskirts

What I’m curious to know is if Boris will get shut of rishi. I friggen would. In a heart beat. If someone was trying to take my job and plotting to get me out, I’d do their legs. I’d be having a reshuffle and moving little rishi out into the wilderness,,,And fast. I can’t stand the little toad though.
Blair never did with Brown and look what happened there. He was always plotting for his job and took it.
Peregrina · 07/02/2022 17:13

There’s 3 years til the next election, he and his cronies will be banking on the public forgetting about all this by then.

Not so, under the Fixed Term Parliament Act it's due on
Thursday 2 May 2024, so actually he's only got 2 years and three months left. The Tories can't afford to wait too long to unseat him.

Whether the public will forget or not, I am not sure. The last two years have been traumatic for many people and won't be forgotten in a hurry. Then we have major price rises coming which won't do anything for their electoral chances.

TerriblyNaice · 07/02/2022 17:13

The awful DC hasn't yet finished the drip drip dripping of stories.

Can't stand the man but I'm impressed at the way he is spilling one each time it looks like Bodger will get away with everything.

I wonder what the worst one will be? Video of Bodger making the 'bodies pile up' speech?

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 17:15

Blair never did with Brown and look what happened there. He was always plotting for his job and took it.

Blair and Brown had an agreement that Brown would get the top job. Blair would have been crazy to get rid of one of the most talented chancellors we’ve ever had.

Meandthesky · 07/02/2022 17:16

@Peregrina

Thank you, that’s the one thing that’s better than I thought!

I hope the public won’t forget that the PM and his mates partied while they couldn’t hug their lonely nan. But I’m afraid the same people who believed him last time around will still buy into the bullshit next time.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 17:18

I hope the public won’t forget that the PM and his mates partied while they couldn’t hug their lonely nan

I can’t see the opposition allowing us to forget.

TheMeditativeRose · 07/02/2022 17:19

Singing “I will survive” to his new advisor is a new way to mock the public.

DrManhattan · 07/02/2022 17:43

We need Dom to drop some more top quality government scandal ASAP

thecatfromjapan · 07/02/2022 18:26

We don't need Cummings to drip more.

This has just happened:

Keir Starmer had to be protected by police when a crowd, some of whom were carrying a noose, chanting about Savile, shouting traitor, swarmed Starmer.

Anti-vaxxers too.

This happened today.

This is appalling.

Enabled by our PM.

It's enough.

Or it should be.

It's just awful.

And some stupid 'image rehabilitation', of him jovially singing, 'I will survive', with his new Head of Comms?

No.

It can't wash the stain of utter degradation from Johnson.

I say, 'No.' I despise him and what he has done to politics, to the U.K., to us.

I utterly despise him.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-keir-starmer-rescued-police-26163353?utmsource=twitter.com&utmmmedium=social&utmcampaign=sharebar

ThinWomansBrain · 07/02/2022 18:30

but the Director of Communication that thinks it was a good idea to reveal that Johnson is singing "I will survive" has to be a bit questionable?

maybe there wasn't a queue of keen, eager and sane applicants?

Ghastlyghoul · 07/02/2022 18:33

The racist fucks of this country voted him in to Take Back Control. They have got exactly what they deserve.. They did but the rest of us who didn’t vote for him all have to suffer too.

knittingaddict · 07/02/2022 18:40

@Haffiana

What party are you a supporter of? I need to know because that kind of rhetoric turns me right off and does you zero favours.

@knittingaddict Why would anyone give a stuff what turns you on or off?

I thought you might since I'm a floating voter who voted remain. Seems not. It really is this kind of aggression and abuse that makes me think I will spoil my ballot next time. Something I have never done before, but I can't vote for vile hypocritical Tories or Labour, who have supporters throwing abuse around.
thecatfromjapan · 07/02/2022 18:58

knittingaddict, I would urge you to re-think that stance.

People say all sorts of things on social media and it isn't necessarily a reflection of the general direction of a Party, its MPs, its Leader.

I would say that there is a massive difference between what a person might say, when heated, on a forum and what a Party Leader, who has been given the honour of being the Prime Munister of the UK, says in Parliament.

Boris Johnson repeated a Far Right conspiracy theory in Parliament last week.

He therefore gave it the imprimatur of respect.

He dogwhistled to the extreme elements of our society.

With inevitable results.

Please think again about spoiling your ballot paper.

I know many people say, 'My vote doesn't matter.'

I never, ever believe that.

It's a vote. It's a voice.

People will say all sorts of things. In the media, on social media.

But some things, said by some people, matter more, tell you more, have more executive effect than others.

I would say, when making up your mind, give more weight to Party Leaders than intermittent social media.

I really don't have words for how appalled I am about Johnson.

I can't stress enough how important I think it is that we resist the line he crosses.

All of us.

And resist false equivalences, or attempts to make us ignore what he is doing to us - our political life; the very grounds of acceptability and our political norms.

All I can say is this: it really matters. It's worth being outraged by.

ilovesooty · 07/02/2022 19:02

@thecatfromjapan

We don't need Cummings to drip more.

This has just happened:

Keir Starmer had to be protected by police when a crowd, some of whom were carrying a noose, chanting about Savile, shouting traitor, swarmed Starmer.

Anti-vaxxers too.

This happened today.

This is appalling.

Enabled by our PM.

It's enough.

Or it should be.

It's just awful.

And some stupid 'image rehabilitation', of him jovially singing, 'I will survive', with his new Head of Comms?

No.

It can't wash the stain of utter degradation from Johnson.

I say, 'No.' I despise him and what he has done to politics, to the U.K., to us.

I utterly despise him.

[[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-keir-starmer-rescued-police-26163353?utm]]source=twitter.com&utmmmedium=social&utmcampaign=sharebar

That is utterly disgusting.
Fairylightsongs · 07/02/2022 20:45

To be fair, although thr anti vaxxers did hurl abuse about savile. It wasn’t about that, they were shouting about why hadn’t he mounted a defence against Boris. It’s being twisted to say this was about savile, it wasn’t it as anti vaxxers shouting and attacking becayse they felt he hadn’t mounted an adequate defence against the tories

To be fair, they could be right.

User135644 · 07/02/2022 20:56

@Peregrina

There’s 3 years til the next election, he and his cronies will be banking on the public forgetting about all this by then.

Not so, under the Fixed Term Parliament Act it's due on
Thursday 2 May 2024, so actually he's only got 2 years and three months left. The Tories can't afford to wait too long to unseat him.

Whether the public will forget or not, I am not sure. The last two years have been traumatic for many people and won't be forgotten in a hurry. Then we have major price rises coming which won't do anything for their electoral chances.

Elections are usually lost in a bad economy. That's how Thatcher got in and Cameron.

Labour won re-election twice under Blair in a good economy and then lost in 2010 in a bad economy. What didn't help Labour by 2015 was the Tories were able to spin that Labour wrecked the economy (with Labour not defending their record) and therefore austerity was needed. Then in 2019 it was all about Brexit while Boris promised all kinds of investment and levelling up agenda.

The outlier is 1992. The Tories had been in a similar time to now (13 years) the economy had tanked after the Thatcherite bubble, but Major still won big.

Haffiana · 07/02/2022 21:27

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Fairylightsongs · 07/02/2022 22:24

I think if Boris did sing I will survive, I’m sure it wasn’t a full on karaoke rendition and was likely about rishi and his handful of supporters trying to take him out.

badspella · 08/02/2022 08:20

I think he will go. There was a certain 'X-Factor' quality to Boris Johnson when he emerged from hiding as May's position was made impossible. He was very popular in the area where I live. Here, he was the new 'Churchill', the man who would 'get things done'; he was the bumbling clown who made politics fun; the was the clever Etonian who rubbed shoulders with the workers and so on.

Now, it is perhaps the factors that are out of any politician's control that will sound the death knell for Boris Johnson's political career. He will be the face behind an escalating cost of living, massive tax rises, unaffordable fuel prices, failed promises with respect to improved health care, social care and that mythical 'levelling up'. The 'magic' disappears when people start to struggle.

Furthermore, we have had a strange two years, where no-one has really governed. Rather, there were top-down responses to a crisis: lock-downs, ease-ups, etc, etc. Now, we really need a leader, someone who will take a sensible and measured approach to massive internal problems in the wake of Covid and Brexit. Johnson is not that man.

His self-seeking and irresponsible attitude was shown when he ran off to Ukraine and issued threats to Putin, to try to mask over his unacceptable behaviour during lockdown. Compared to Johnson, Macron looks like the model of diplomacy.

In summary, his popularity is decreasing, his flaws are being shown on the world stage, his incompetence as a leader and the damage his party has done to the country is being realised as I write. No, he will not resign. He will become so dangerous to the reputation of his party that he will be ousted. In the words of Gloria Gaynor, '[He] will survive', he has the money and contacts to survive very well. He may even end up in the House of Lords, but he will go down in history as the worst Prime Minister this country has ever had.

lljkk · 08/02/2022 08:33

Tories didn't win big in '92: Major had a quite small majority & relied on DUP a lot.

What used to shock me was how Tories constantly blamed Labour for economic woes & govt decisions in the 1990s. Their repeat soundbite was "We only have this problem or have to do all these measures because of the damage Labour did when they were in power." Journalists didn't call Tories out on that ridiculous excuse until about 1995. I have no idea why this claim convinced voters so strongly, when Labour was only previously in power 1945-1951, 1964-1970 & 1974-1979.

Don't forget to punish the Tories severely in local elections May 2022.

SuitcaseOfWhine · 08/02/2022 08:35

Boris Mugabe

Fallsballs · 08/02/2022 08:37

Boris Trump

Momijin · 08/02/2022 08:39

Good. Even some of the numpties that voted for him are annoyed now that it's affecting them. Vote for a liar and ignore logic and this is what you get.