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Why didn't Mumsnet delete my post??

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Larafromthe80s · 02/02/2022 21:42

Just curious... I started a thread which detailed a lot of information about a situation I was in, thankfully I'd name changed for it!
Anyway it blew up and got picked up by a regional media outlet
I reported the thread to Mumsnet and continued to do so over the following 72 hours, as well as emailing them directly.
By this point the article was in 3 nationals and around 6 regionals

A family member screen shot the news article from his Facebook newsfeed to me saying as a joke "this isn't you isn't" as he he hadn't actually read the article, only the headline and thought it was just coincidental. And it was me 😖
I was mortified and am living in fear that the people it was about will have seen it.
Why did Mumsnet take so long to delete it, is that normal?

OP posts:
Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:34

Under GDPR they have to delete.

JustcameoutGC · 02/02/2022 22:38

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NeedAHoliday2021 · 02/02/2022 22:38

Once a news agency has the story they then sell it to various news outlets. These kind of stories always get picked up by them rather than National newspaper journalists (very few of them exist, mostly come from news agencies). That’s how stories feature in numerous publications. Once it’s with a news agency it won’t matter if your thread is deleted or not. Presumably for mn it’s good advertising and creates more traffic for the site.

loobylou10 · 02/02/2022 22:39

'Under GDPR they have to delete.'

Why do they?

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:42

Because if a thread has identifiable information so the individual can be identified. That means the info comes under GDPR and you have control of your info and can ask for it to be deleted.

Larafromthe80s · 02/02/2022 22:44

Well... lesson learned. Thanks for the insight and I guess it makes sense about driving traffic.
I doubt I'll ever post asking for advice, giving the level of information I did again. I'm pretty convinced those spoken about must have seen it, the only good thing is that the comments on the Facebook posts of the papers were 99% in my favour but even so, I really didn't want people seeing my posts that publicly 😪

OP posts:
daisiesonmydress · 02/02/2022 22:46

@Monopolyiscrap

Under GDPR they have to delete.
I run GDPR policies. What utter shite Confused
Sparklingbrook · 02/02/2022 22:49

If you don’t want it shared don’t post it in the first place. Simple as that.

CatNameChange101 · 02/02/2022 22:50

I hate when people who have no clue about GDPR cite it… Utter twaddle.

loobylou10 · 02/02/2022 22:50

Monopolyiscrap
Under GDPR they have to delete.
I run GDPR policies. What utter shite

I agree daisies - they have a privacy policy that explains everything very clearly.

loobylou10 · 02/02/2022 22:51

@CatNameChange101 - well said 👍🏼

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 02/02/2022 22:52

They're hardly going to rush to delete a thread that's bringing traffic to the site, because more unique users means more advertising revenue.

Wolfiefan · 02/02/2022 22:53

@Larafromthe80s if you don’t want people seeing your posts so publicly then don’t post on a public forum!
Journos often trawl here for stories.

malmi · 02/02/2022 22:54

It's almost a cliché now but remember just like Facebook you don't pay anything to use Mumsnet. You're not the customer, you're the product.

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:54

Personal data is information that relates to an identified or identifiable individual.
What identifies an individual could be as simple as a name or a number or could include other identifiers such as an IP address or a cookie identifier, or other factors.
If it is possible to identify an individual directly from the information you are processing, then that information may be personal data.
If you cannot directly identify an individual from that information, then you need to consider whether the individual is still identifiable. You should take into account the information you are processing together with all the means reasonably likely to be used by either you or any other person to identify that individual.
Even if an individual is identified or identifiable, directly or indirectly, from the data you are processing, it is not personal data unless it ‘relates to’ the individual.
When considering whether information ‘relates to’ an individual, you need to take into account a range of factors, including the content of the information, the purpose or purposes for which you are processing it and the likely impact or effect of that processing on the individual.
It is possible that the same information is personal data for one controller’s purposes but is not personal data for the purposes of another controller.
Information which has had identifiers removed or replaced in order to pseudonymise the data is still personal data for the purposes of UK GDPR.

Can we identify an individual directly from the information we have?
If, by looking solely at the information you are processing you can distinguish an individual from other individuals, that individual will be identified (or identifiable).
You don’t have to know someone’s name for them to be directly identifiable, a combination of other identifiers may be sufficient to identify the individual.
If an individual is directly identifiable from the information, this may constitute personal data.

The UK GDPR introduces a right for individuals to have personal data erased.
The right to erasure is also known as ‘the right to be forgotten’.

ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-to-erasure/

HelloDulling · 02/02/2022 22:55

I learnt years ago that if you wouldn’t post it with your full name, don’t post it. The papers probably won’t pick upon your thread about your DH’s colleague/your DD’s school/your MIL’s laugh, but someone you know will recognise you. It has happened to three friends, and also to me. Fortunately I was recognised on the basis of a book I recommended combined with a particular turn of phrase, rather than anything worse.

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:56

This meets the criteria under GDPR. You can insult me, but i do know about GDPR legislation. And if it doesn't apply explain why. Dont just insult me.

CatNameChange101 · 02/02/2022 22:56

Christ, you have absolutely no clue what you’re on about Grin Copying and pasting legislation is only useful if it’s relevant to the context…

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:57

Then explain why it does not apply?
Or do you not know what you are talking about?

CatNameChange101 · 02/02/2022 22:57

Because this isn’t Mumsnet POSTING her information and gathering her data. It’s an open forum she has posted on…

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:57

What I have posted explains why it does apply i.e. the context.

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 22:59

@CatNameChange101 I know it is her posting her data. But the data is held publicly on the site that MN control and thus they do process the information.

Monopolyiscrap · 02/02/2022 23:00

OP never post anything personal on MN.
And never give MN personal info such as your real name.
Security is shite on this site.

CatNameChange101 · 02/02/2022 23:15

She posted identifiable information online. That is not Mumsnet breaching GDPR… They have done nothing to make her identifiable, OP did that on her own.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 02/02/2022 23:16

Why are people so quick to throw insults instead of explaining 🤔.
OP, I've asked for two seperate posts to be removed, first was down in about ten minutes, the other was the next day. Think it depends on staffing but could be wrong.

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