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To feel helpless in effecting government change.

81 replies

HavenLane · 31/01/2022 19:44

Polite title, but BJ needs to go. He's making idiots of us all. He lies, he treats us as if we are stupid, he oversells even the things he thinks he's done well.

How do we bring about his demise?

Feel like marching!

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Nooshoos123 · 31/01/2022 19:53

For what it’s worth, I feel exactly the same.

GreenNewDealNow · 31/01/2022 20:30

I'll join you on the march!

AlexaShutUp · 31/01/2022 20:33

I am willing to march. I have written to my MP and that achieved nothing.

Enough is enough. Our current government is a disgrace.

OverByYer · 31/01/2022 20:34

I feel so impotent in my rage against him and all he stands for. I built my hopes up that he would resign this afternoon but alas he clings on. I can’t bear it.

Kendodd · 31/01/2022 20:40

We get what we vote for though.
Johnson has always been a liar.
His lies have always been absolutely obvious.
The voters, in their wisdom, voted for this shit show in their droves.
What did they expect?

UnUdderOne · 31/01/2022 20:44

If you notice, on a day like today, all the active posts are about nonsense. There are a lot of Conservatives on here today.

HavenLane · 31/01/2022 21:25

@GreenNewDealNow

I'll join you on the march!
Let's do it! I don't want to accept this morally bankrupt government. BJ thinks we will just accept him and his cronies, treating us like we are all stupid. I don't want to accept it.
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Speakuptomakeyourselfheard · 31/01/2022 22:11

I'd join you in marching, but can't because I'm disabled, however you have my complete support, and I feel sure that of so many others if what you see on the news is anything to go by. Perhaps we should get Teresa May to lead the march, lol. The hypocrisy of Johnson and his mates is appalling, and they're supposed to be representing us to the world, they're an absolute disgrace, but I think that if we went to an election today, somehow this bunch of idiots would still get in, simply because so many people are apathetic when it comes to politics in this country. God knows how seemingly intelligent people are stupid enough to vote for them, but they do.

LibrariesGiveUsPower · 31/01/2022 22:13

YANBU

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 31/01/2022 22:16

YANBU - what with our shit voting system, handy unwritten constitution and unelected House of Lords there is fuck all democracy in this country.

kickupafuss · 31/01/2022 22:17

I'll join you on the march!

mum2jakie · 31/01/2022 22:17

I've emailed my Tory MP to express my disgust with the prime minister's conduct. I've also emailed the Speaker to complain about Johnson's comments about Jimmy Saville today. Absolute joke of a government!

jcyclops · 31/01/2022 22:18

You are helpless. The problem is totally due to representative democracy exacerbated by first past the post voting. We could shortly have the bizarre situation where all three candidates for PM when you last voted (Swinson, Corbyn and Johnson) are all out of the picture, but you have to wait until December 2024 to vote again.

ThePlantsitter · 31/01/2022 22:18

I feel the same.

WTF475878237NC · 31/01/2022 22:18

I was thinking about this earlier. In countries such as France there would have been a march about this weeks ago. I would also join a march.

CorrBlimeyGG · 31/01/2022 22:19

It's not just the endless lies that are getting to me now, but the fact that they cannot be called out on the endless lies. We need the opposition (and hopefully some of the more moderate Conservatives) to walk out when lies are told.

Speakuptomakeyourselfheard · 31/01/2022 22:20

Just done a bit more research, why don't we all add our voice to this petition:

www.change.org/p/uk-parliament-public-vote-of-no-confidence-in-pm-johnson?redirect=false

If we all act together, we might actually get somewhere

Verbena87 · 31/01/2022 22:23

He made it abundantly clear he was a lying, patronising, power-deranged manipulator from before the election. Why people didn’t believe him to be what he is then I do not know.

Part of me hopes he stays to entirely discredit the whole party. I think if he goes there’s a risk they’ll blame all the abhorrent behaviour on Johnson, claim they’ve got rid of the rotten apple, have a bit of a rebrand and just carry on and on and fucking on.

That said, yes, I’d probably march. I’d probably campaign for him to be made into compost so we can grow some nice roses and he can actually do something useful for once. In silence.

MerchSwyddEfrog · 31/01/2022 22:32

I would march too, and so would my 10 year old dd! She is absolutely disgusted with the government and Boris Johnson. She feels very passionate about the hypocrisy of this government with their illegal parties. She watched prime ministers questions with me on the way home from school and said it was obvious Boris Johnson was lying but could tell that Sir Keir Starmer was telling the truth. She liked his speech. So if a 10 year old can see what is wrong with the government why are many people so blind to it?

Porridgealert · 31/01/2022 22:35

We couldn't get rid of Blair went he waged an illegal war so I'm not sure you can rid of someone that had a piece of cake on his birthday.

AlexaShutUp · 31/01/2022 22:42

@Porridgealert

We couldn't get rid of Blair went he waged an illegal war so I'm not sure you can rid of someone that had a piece of cake on his birthday.
I have no wish to minimise Blair's culpability in the slightest, but let's not minimise Boris's behaviour either.

This is not about a piece of cake. This is about the PM's honesty and integrity. It's about whether he believes that he is above the law. It's about whether he lied to Parliament to protect his own position. I couldn't give a toss about the cake, but I do care about the basic moral standards of our leader. Don't you?

Kendodd · 31/01/2022 22:43

Johnson's comments about Jimmy Saville today
What did he say?
I know he's described investigating historical child abuse as "spiffing money up the wall".

AlexaShutUp · 31/01/2022 22:45

@Kendodd

Johnson's comments about Jimmy Saville today What did he say? I know he's described investigating historical child abuse as "spiffing money up the wall".
He implied that Starmer had failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. In fact, Starmer had no involvement in that decision, but as we know, the truth appears to be little more than a minor inconvenience to Boris.
chillydownwiththefiregang · 31/01/2022 22:46

I would also march!

Porridgealert · 31/01/2022 22:54

Honesty and integrity was missing from both decisions but you can't compare manufacturing evidence to take a country to war where British citizens, never mind those of other countries, were killed and maimed, to office parties. Whether Johnson should go or not, even you can see one is more serious than the other. I'm just saying millions protested against Blair and they didn't get rid of him. But you never know, a cake march might.

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