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Chauvinistic husband?

90 replies

Alisa2 · 29/01/2022 17:02

Am I wrong or is he?

I need a third person to tell me either I'm a psycho or he's a chauvinistic $%&#^

We've got 2 kids. 2 year old and 2 month old. Ever since we've had more responsibilities the more we fight about the responsibilities. He works full time I'm a full time mum.

I work 24 hours. No break. 2 small kids. I also have always done all the house chores and cooking. It gets really hard that once a month he pays a cleaner for a deep clean. I managed all that until I had baby number 2. He doesn't want to help. He does help me though sometimes. But by force. Guilt tripping him. When the house ends up looking like a pigs sty because I literally can't do it. I'm exclusively breastfeeding and baby is clingy. Toddler is not eating properly recently and is being so picky so it takes me hours to make sure she has enough to eat. Giving them both a bath. It takes me all day. And as soon as he's home I just need that help. Just even holding the newborn so I can give my arms a break. Or have a shower. Cooking an evening meal with them two with me alone is impossible. I can't do it without his help. He comes home late (by choice). So we don't end up eating till. Very late. I'm exhausted because I don't get a chance to eat and eat really late. Breastfeeding takes all the energy from me and it stresses me that I don't eat enough to give enough to my baby through breastfeeding.

Anyhow, he has a misogynistic mentality. He thinks it's my job to do all that above. And having food on the table is a 'given'. He shouldnt have to do any of that. Im a wife and a mother and I should do all that without help All he has to do is bring in the money and provide. Anything he does do to help. Like washing dishes or putting laundry on or giving our toddler a bath is him doing me a favour. These are his words.

I realised what his mentality is like since we've had kids. Before then it wasn't really highlighted. We were both working and just doing our own thing on not much to do. With kids I expect us to do everything together. It's his responsibility too. I have a 24/7 job. He thinks I stay in bed for hours and hours and sleep and rest
When I've told him numerous times I'm breastfeeding! If I don't I lose my supply! I don't sleep all night. And have 1-2 hours sleep every few hours or so. That doesn't mean I'm in bed all day sleeping!!! I'm exhausted. When my baby does finally settle then the toddler is up! I wash her give her breakfast on no sleep and no food. Once they've all sorted then I eat breakfast. I can only do house chores or cooking when the husband is home and he takes over atleast one of the kids.

But he hates it. All he wants to do is come home and relax and do nothing. If he has to do me some 'favours' it makes him so angry and he starts swearing. It's my job apparently. He won't even change toddlers Nappy. From his point of view him washing up is him doing something HUGE for me and if I ask him to change toddlers nappy too otherwise she'll get a rash whilst waiting for me to finish breastfeeding or settling the newborn is taking the piss and I deserve to be verbally abused and he doesn't care if she gets a rash! His mentality drives me crazy because he's the polar opposite to me with my mentality and what I want in a man. And therefore I am verbally abusive to him too. I feel like if I don't let it out, my brain will explode!

I cant deal with it anymore feel like I'm going crazy. Feel like a single mother but financially stable. That's the only good thing I get from him. The relationship is so toxic now. He doesn't know how to be a father or husband in my opinion. He should have stayed single and watched as much netflix as he wanted and have his mum and sisters spoon feed him as they always have done.

What do you guys think?

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 29/01/2022 17:09

You're 100% right. He's a pig.
Have you asked him why he thinks it's fair that you work 24/7 and he works 40 hours a week?

Tempusfudgeit · 29/01/2022 17:14

He is the 'polar opposite of what I want in a man'. He's not going to change, so you must.

blackcurrantjam · 29/01/2022 17:18

Doesn't bode well. Consider your financial future Flowers

Stookeen · 29/01/2022 17:18

Look, that horse has well and truly bolted now, but this kind of shitshow is exactly why, before TTC with someone, you sit down and have a deeply unsexy conversation about exactly who is going to look after this baby, and how both of you see your life post-baby as being. In our case, we were clear that we were both going to work FT, but flexibly, outsource some housework, and divide childcare equally.

OP, of course you're not being unreasonable. I'm not even going to ask why you had a second child with this man, when it must already have been obvious what he was like. You deserve more than this, but as a pp said, he won't change, so you are going to be the one who has to initiate it.

ChampagneLassie · 29/01/2022 17:21

@Alisa2 I'm so sorry to read this. My friend went through the same thing with her ex...they split when their DC was 5 months. He doesn't sound like he cares about you or the DC. Maybe couples counselling? But I'm very concerned by his attitudes and verbal abuse. This is not a positive environment to bring up your DC. My friend found life much easier as she only had herself and DC to look after - not an overgrown man-baby (like yours he had also been indulged by his sisters).

notforonesecond · 29/01/2022 17:25

Everything about this post makes me want to scream.

MrMrsJones · 29/01/2022 17:25

He works full time
So the house is your full time job
The children should be a joint effort

Why can't he bath them at night and spend sometime with them at bed time

It sounds like you are stressing about stuff and not getting the housework done

MostlyHappyMummy · 29/01/2022 17:30

What was he like after your first child?

girlmom21 · 29/01/2022 17:31

@MrMrsJones

He works full time So the house is your full time job The children should be a joint effort

Why can't he bath them at night and spend sometime with them at bed time

It sounds like you are stressing about stuff and not getting the housework done

The house isn't her full time job. She's breastfeeding a baby and caring for a toddler. Her 'job' is looking after the children while he works. Anything else she can manage is a bonus. Everything outside of those working hours should be shared.
olympicsrock · 29/01/2022 17:31

MrMrsJones is clearly having a laugh and has never tried to breast feed a baby whilst looking after a two year old

Pancakeorcrepe · 29/01/2022 17:33

@notforonesecond you are quite right but your post really made me laugh Grin

DisforDarkChocolate · 29/01/2022 17:33

You married a c**t. I think you'll find life a lot easier without him.

Devo1818 · 29/01/2022 17:34

Being a stay at home parent is shit and in my experience, partnerships without proper equality rarely end well.

My advice is, once baby is a few months older, get a job. If you both work part time, like 3/4 days each, that is the ideal I reckon.

LannieDuck · 29/01/2022 17:35

Aim for the same amount of free time. You look after the children and do as much housework as you can while he's at work. Evenings and weekends all chores should be split.

It's complicated because you're also breastfeeding overnight and that's difficult to split, but he can pull his weight there by doing the early mornings on the weekends and letting you get a bit extra sleep.

LannieDuck · 29/01/2022 17:37

But really, the only way he's going to acknowledge that looking after kids all day is hard is if he has to do it. And I can't imagine you'll want to leave the baby with him while you're breastfeeding, so you may not be able to change this much until baby weans.

You could at least start popping out for an hour at weekends - to the hairdressers, or for a walk in the park.

Billybagpuss · 29/01/2022 17:41

You know the answer to your question, you absolutely anbu

The real question though is what do you want to do about it. The only thing you know for sure is he is not going to change.

What did you do before the dc. It would be sensible to start to consider your long term financial future.

CatsOperatingInGangs · 29/01/2022 17:41

What sort of man doesn’t parent his own children? This is not going to get any better. I’d make plans financially. Life would be easier on your own. I’m so sorry.

MrMrsJones · 29/01/2022 17:47

@olympicsrock

MrMrsJones is clearly having a laugh and has never tried to breast feed a baby whilst looking after a two year old
I had a 9yr old a 2yr old and a baby (21 months between them)

2 Yr old didn't sleep, baby was up in the night feeding (breast fed him for 8 months)

Plus looked after a house, took the 9yr old to school.

Husband worked week of early shift 6am til 3pm and week of late shift 2pm till 10.30pm.

So yes I do know what it's like.

It's about prioritising jobs

Chely · 29/01/2022 17:49

Yes he should give you some respite but as a sahm the bulk of care of house/family does tend to be the deal.
I'm a sahm too, I do the bulk of stuff around here and he goes off to work and does other bits around the house when needed. I am accepting of having little help because most of the time he works away, I do understand the resentment that builds when they are around and just being lazy fuckers.

Zipper666 · 29/01/2022 17:51

I apologize for the men who are NOT like this, we DO exist, honest!

I'll mention the gorilla in the room. With children that close together you seem to have had a "normal" sex life - are you ensuring that there will not be a THIRD child in your future?

In any case, this guy isn't gonna magically change, you mention he was coddled by his mother and sisters, so he's been turned into the classic man/boy, institutionalized and ruined.

Some "miracle" might change him, but it's hard to see what.
You need to plan your future without him. Yes, I know that's a bitter pill to swallow, but making that reality will give you purpose.

I wish you well.

Liverbird77 · 29/01/2022 18:03

The house is absolutely NOT your full time job. Fuck that.
I have a 3 year old and 18 month old and I am doing everything just to keep them fed, stimulated and loved.
Very little housework gets done
Husband works fill time. He cooks and cleans too

Adelais · 29/01/2022 18:03

Leave him and hopefully he will have to have his kids by himself some of the time while you get a break.

These men make me so angry. Why do they think that it’s ok to father children but not have to do any parenting?

DrSbaitso · 29/01/2022 18:29

He will not change. This is life unless you make some changes yourself.

Goldbar · 29/01/2022 18:40

He's having a laugh.

Pre-children, most grown-ups manage to go to work full-time and then come home and do their share of the household chores.

I have no idea why some men think their lives should be easier after they have had children, while they simultaneously think it's fine that their partner never gets a break. It's baffling.

If your 'partner' treats you like a malfunctioning household appliance because you demand to be treated like a human being not a skivvy, that's not someone you have a happy future with.

What else is there to say? He is a parent who doesn't parent and a partner who doesn't 'partner' you.

Naunet · 29/01/2022 18:41

So ask him to explain why having children should mean he gets to do less. People who live alone work too but also clean their own house and cook - yet he thinks having kids means he should do less?!

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