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Seriously why is noone reacting to this?

129 replies

MrsMagnum10 · 29/01/2022 02:20

Why is noone reacting to the ridiculous misogynistic and male modifying behaviour discussed and jokingly accepted by a Hollywood actress and the host on BBC 1?

OP posts:
shrunkenhead · 29/01/2022 10:07

How do you get a Maccy's delivery in the middle of the night? (My head is hurting trying to navigate this thread!)

EnjoyingTheSilence · 29/01/2022 10:08

@Ionlydomassiveones I know!!

Butchyrestingface · 29/01/2022 10:08

Even especially the updates don't help.

Are you afraid of someone putting a fatwa on your head if you name names, @MrsMagnum10?

phishy · 29/01/2022 10:09

Just watched it. There were some creepy bits for sure

  • Pedro saying Penelope was pregnant in all of his films and he thinks she has the perfect mother’s body
  • Pedro entering the female cast members’ dressing rooms with no notice and telling them they have to improvise with no notice
  • Penelope saying sometimes they stared at him terrified and he just said ‘you have to do it’
  • Pedro telling her at restaurants that her hairstyle, tone of voice etc wrong

Some of it arguably could be put down to method acting, or a director using this as an excuse to control women.

Note Penelope said he does the dressing room crashing to women. She didn’t say he does it to men and women.

Penelope ending with ‘she is used to it’. So possibly she has to pit up with it to keep getting cast.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 29/01/2022 10:09

@SusannaQueen chicken Big Macs, do they serve at 10:09?

GenderCriticalTrumpets · 29/01/2022 10:09

This thread is like the Insomniac Mystery Mumsnet Tour. What did Ben do?

Genuine LOL

ChelBelle · 29/01/2022 10:11

@TheresSomebodyAtTheDoorNeil

Because it's 2.44am, im starving because my dinner was crap so I binned it and now I lie in hungry regret. My only thoughts right now are the fact I can't sleep and arguing with myself to not order a cheeky bigmac meal and a strawberry milkshake from maccies

That and the fact I don't have a clue what you're on about.

All I want to know is: Did you order? 🤣
Frazzled50yrold · 29/01/2022 10:13

I think most people were in shock at the strange yellow coat.The language barrier also made things a little difficult and Norton was almost using pigeon English at times.I'll have to eat it again.

AuntTwacky · 29/01/2022 10:13

I saw it seemed fine to me
Graham has got a bit boring lately... showing the newspaper some actress made when she was 8 Confused

sweeneytoddsrazor · 29/01/2022 10:13

Ordering a Mcplant has been a game changer Grin

Frannibananni · 29/01/2022 10:14

I’m not outraged because I don’t watch GN, I used to but I now find him too annoying, he comes across vey pushy and seems to have a nasty side just under the surface and every show has someone revealing something exciting or unknown or scandalous. Inflated egos fed by inflated stories.

Gardengates · 29/01/2022 10:14

Wow, trawled through that whole thread because I was overly invested in the Big Mac situation. Disappointed with how that story ended TBH.

Still don't have much of a clue what's going on but I too like James McAvoy so am relieved to hear he is not an asshole.

NatashaBedwouldbenice · 29/01/2022 10:17

Graham has got a bit boring lately... showing the newspaper some actress made when she was 8

Heh, yes. That was the worst bit!

EmmaH2022 · 29/01/2022 10:18

@phishy

Just watched it. There were some creepy bits for sure
  • Pedro saying Penelope was pregnant in all of his films and he thinks she has the perfect mother’s body
  • Pedro entering the female cast members’ dressing rooms with no notice and telling them they have to improvise with no notice
  • Penelope saying sometimes they stared at him terrified and he just said ‘you have to do it’
  • Pedro telling her at restaurants that her hairstyle, tone of voice etc wrong

Some of it arguably could be put down to method acting, or a director using this as an excuse to control women.

Note Penelope said he does the dressing room crashing to women. She didn’t say he does it to men and women.

Penelope ending with ‘she is used to it’. So possibly she has to pit up with it to keep getting cast.

That sounds awful, yes.
ChargingBuck · 29/01/2022 10:18

@MimiDaisy11

If it’s Penelope Cruz the director will likely be Pedro Almodovar? They’ve got a new film out. He’s gay so it can’t be sexual harassment like others have suggested though of course could still be abusive.
I haven't a clue about the details of the Cruz/director thing, but just can't skate past this as it's perpetuating a dangerous myth. NOT an attack on you @MimiDaisy11 - just a clarification - He’s gay so it can’t be sexual harassment like others have suggested though of course could still be abusive.

Sexual harassment & abuse is NOT about sex.
It is about power & control.
A man doesn't need to fancy a woman to sexually harass her. Because that's not why he's doing it. He's doing it to establish & maintain dominance. The fact that he's probably getting off on it as well is irrelevant.

Too many people subscribe to this myth.
Hence Trump's invidious attempt to exonerate himself of being a sex pest by claiming "It wasn't me guv, she's not pretty enough to be worth my interest"(paraphrased)

Any human, of any sex, gender or orientation can sexually abuse another. So being gay doesn't let anyone off the hook when they hassle a straight.

OK I've almost finished being humourless about this now, please don't feel 'lectured at' Mimi, it's just an important point - eg domestic sexual violence isn't because "he can't help himself he just fancies her so much" - it's about "he does it because he wants to, & enjoys doing what he wants without her consent."

Some of them, of course, are getting off because of the lack of consent. Using the transgressive nature of assault as a turn-on AND a way of punishing & invalidating a woman.
Control - see?

TameDucksAtChatsworth · 29/01/2022 10:19

Who is 'noone'?

I have a friend called Pat Noone but I don't think you mean him.

ChargingBuck · 29/01/2022 10:21

@SmellyOldOwls

Can you really get a Big Mac delivered at 3am in some parts of the country? What a time to be alive!
Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh, Owls ... Brew

ChargingBuck · 29/01/2022 10:32

@Butchyrestingface

Even especially the updates don't help.

Are you afraid of someone putting a fatwa on your head if you name names, @MrsMagnum10?

Grin Of course she isn't, Butchy.

This is HOLLYWOOD Harassment. It'll be a thinwa.

NatashaBedwouldbenice · 29/01/2022 10:33

I think there's some abiguity really. Take, for example, Pedro telling her at restaurants that her hairstyle, tone of voice etc wrong This misses off the bit where he then catches himself and realises he's still directing her. He's thinking that her tone of voice is wrong, for the character they've been making a film about all day.

I didn't get the impression that he's a Modern Man or anything. At worse I think he's just a boring luvvie completely wrapped up (and humoured) in his work.

blackberriesaretheonlyfruit · 29/01/2022 10:38

It's not fair we can't get McDonalds delivery. DS is in bed with covid and I can't leave him I'd kill for nuggets and a banana milkshake.

sashh · 29/01/2022 10:42

@SmellyOldOwls

Can you really get a Big Mac delivered at 3am in some parts of the country? What a time to be alive!
Yes but you can't get a breakfast delivered until 7am, 6am is apparently "too early"

So I read the first few posts, was distracted by a Big Mac and posted, has anyone made any sense of what is happening?

Do we need to start T-rexing?

Pyewhacket · 29/01/2022 10:44

You definitately can get a McDonalds delivered at 2.44 am. Well you can in South West London.

Pyewhacket · 29/01/2022 10:45

definitely

godmum56 · 29/01/2022 10:50

@TheresSomebodyAtTheDoorNeil

Because it's 2.44am, im starving because my dinner was crap so I binned it and now I lie in hungry regret. My only thoughts right now are the fact I can't sleep and arguing with myself to not order a cheeky bigmac meal and a strawberry milkshake from maccies

That and the fact I don't have a clue what you're on about.

so......did you get a mac meal? No one delivers to where I live and I am sooooo jealous
godmum56 · 29/01/2022 10:52

@ChargingBuck
"grin
Of course she isn't, Butchy.

This is HOLLYWOOD Harassment. It'll be a thinwa."

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