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Yasmin Chkaifi

98 replies

Cocoabutterkim · 25/01/2022 17:56

Stabbed to death in broad daylight by her ex husband.

Surely we can do more to protect women?
She’d been to the police countless times, panic alarms installed and restraining order in place.

What a travesty, yet another woman brutally murdered.

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Gazelda · 25/01/2022 22:59

Would you like to guess the race of the driver? Yep the Dailymail made sure to point out that the driver was white even before saying who poor Yasmine was.

Oh gosh @Why2why that's incredible. To be treated so disrespectfully even in death is unforgivable.

Yasmine and her family have been so terribly let down. I pray that she'll be remembered as more than a statistic.

notallpeoplearenice · 25/01/2022 23:07

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StillWeRise · 25/01/2022 23:12

RIP Yasmine

Charley50 · 25/01/2022 23:14

RIP Yasmine. How incredibly tragic.

Charley50 · 25/01/2022 23:15

@notallpeoplearenice - women aren't killing their 'loved ones' at a rate of 3 per week.

Ponoka7 · 25/01/2022 23:21

The DMs headline story, when I've just looked for an update is her Son's statement about the perpetrator not turning up to court on January 4th and the Met police failing to arrest him. There's been numerous videos of witness statements and the driver was described by them as a young white guy. The main witnesses were people of colour whose providing the descriptions.

LaLaLouella · 25/01/2022 23:24

And look we have @notallpeoplearenice appearing on the thread to tell us not to be horrible to poor men because some women can be nasty too 🙁 give me a fucking break - this is about Yasmine, murdered by a jealous, evil man.

RIP Jasmine, my heart breaks for you and what you have endured x

LaLaLouella · 25/01/2022 23:25

Yasmine.... that autocorrected to Jasmine 🙁

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TonyThreePies · 25/01/2022 23:39

RIP Yasmine. The police failed you. Sending strength and power to your sons.

ChicCroissant · 25/01/2022 23:40

@Ponoka7

The DMs headline story, when I've just looked for an update is her Son's statement about the perpetrator not turning up to court on January 4th and the Met police failing to arrest him. There's been numerous videos of witness statements and the driver was described by them as a young white guy. The main witnesses were people of colour whose providing the descriptions.
Yes, I read that report as well - he was due in Court for breaking the restraining order, no wonder the family are asking why he hadn't been arrested. I can't imagine how frustrating that was for her family, I hope the fact that people did try to help her at the time is some comfort for them in their loss.
Tealightsandd · 25/01/2022 23:42

What does work! Does anywhere in the world get this right?

More funding for the police (the Met police are seriously stretched - and currently busy investigating a cake), more funding for the criminal justice system (courts have been closed, legal aid cut, prisons full), more funding for domestic abuse agencies, more funding for social services, more funding to deal with the public health housing and homelessness emergency.

I don't know if she asked to move (it's very difficult for vulnerable victims to relocate at a time when they most need to be around family and friends, plus children settled in schools) but she should have been moved - even, if she needed the same area. A different address so that he wouldn't so easily find her.

Such a horribly tragic case. Very upsetting. The driver is, as her family have said, a hero. I agree with them, that he should get a medal.

Tealightsandd · 25/01/2022 23:45

Police action alone is nowhere near enough. If they'd arrested him, the courts most likely would've released him the next day. Maybe not in this case as I don't know if he was out of prison on licence, but very often that's what happens.

MenoMom · 25/01/2022 23:51

@notallpeoplearenice - very well named.

What's the purpose of coming onto a thread where women are mourning a woman who was murdered by a man to tell us that some women commit child abuse? Whataboutery at it's worst.

We know it's not all men, but pretty much all women feel fear and anger when these misogynastic murders just keep happening, and knowing the women also commit crimes (at much much lower rates then men) does not in any way reduce my fear and anger

Kellykukoo · 25/01/2022 23:53

What happened to Yasmine is so agonising.
She wasn't safe in broad daylight, walking along a busy street. She had done all the things she was supposed to do - got divorced from her abuser, got a restraining order against him, had a panic button installed and she still wasn't safe.
I'm not one for capital punishment but on this occasion, I'm glad the man in the car stopped Yasmine's killer permanently. He can't ever terrorise another woman.
I imagine Yasmine 's killer thought he would only get a few years in jail for her murder. Sometimes, the British justice system fails the victims.
I just hope the man in the car doesn't end up with any kind of conviction for being a real hero.

Why2why · 26/01/2022 00:23

@Ponoka7

The DMs headline story, when I've just looked for an update is her Son's statement about the perpetrator not turning up to court on January 4th and the Met police failing to arrest him. There's been numerous videos of witness statements and the driver was described by them as a young white guy. The main witnesses were people of colour whose providing the descriptions.
You’ve conveniently missed the point. He is getting more attention than the victim. That’s the point and his colour was reported by the Dailymail, regardless of who gave them that info. Very little was mentioned about besides her being stabbed but they felt it necessary to highlight his race (and no one else’s).
Tealightsandd · 26/01/2022 00:27

Domestic abuse is simply not taken seriously enough.

A pp wondered why this hasn't had more media and public attention. Yes it's partly because of her skin colour/race and older age (20 somethings will get more coverage).

But, it's also because it's domestic abuse. If the perpetrator had been a random stranger, it would have had more attention.

I was on another thread here yesterday. About the new gimmick - a phone number for women to call whilst walking home alone. As I pointed out on there, the majority of women are attacked of killed by somebody they know - usually a current or ex partner.

Tealightsandd · 26/01/2022 00:29

There's a lot of irrationality and jobsworth computer says no in the system.

Many local authorities will refuse to offer housing in the same area that the domestic abuse occurred. Not safe, they say.

But...at the same time, they try to push restraining orders, instead of rehousing, to the survivor.

Moving away from family, friends, schools, is often too much for already traumatised survivors.

Far safer, when that's the case, is a compromise - a move within the local authority area, rather than leaving them in an address that the perpetrator knows.

Survivors are often fobbed off with panic alarms and restraining orders. That can work for some, but sometimes the only safe option is to help the survivor move.

Charley50 · 26/01/2022 00:42

The only reason this is getting any extra attention from the other 3 women murdered by a partner or ex every week, is because of the unusual-ness of the killer being killed by a person driving a car.

It's completely tragic for Yasmine and her family, and they have been failed by our systems, as so many others have been and will continue to be.

LizziesTwin · 26/01/2022 05:15

So sad to read about poor Yasmine Chkaifi‘s death and harassment prior to her murder. Another woman let down by the police/justice system.

RIP Yasmine

IHateCoronavirus · 26/01/2022 05:31

My heart goes out to her and her mother and sons. It is just not good enough. She asked for help and was ignored. I hope those traumatised children who witnessed it will be given full support.
I really hope the motorist, the one brave soul who actually tried to help her, will be free of criminal record. How sad if he tried to save one life and inadvertently ruined his own.

Simonjt · 26/01/2022 05:43

@Why2why

As you will notice, she was a black woman and Mumsnet is relatively quiet. If she was white, this thread would be going on pages and there would be several posts expressing outrage about the way women face violence on a daily basis.
Yep, non white people aren’t seen as a priority, but black women in particularly have been placed right on the bottom shelf in the UK. It seems being photographed after you have been murdered, and those photos being shared for ‘lols’ doesn’t even get a great deal of attention.

Then we have Blessing, the police failed to investigate until they finally gave in to her family’s pressure, the half arsed investigation that followed was a waste of time.

Sabina, again, very little was mentioned, despite the fact that she was murdered in a busy and well used park.

Missing white woman syndrome.

boogiewithasuitcase · 26/01/2022 06:40

Horrific.

Horrific that this poor woman was murdered by her ex husband, and in broad daylight, and in the middle of a city street.

Her son says that his mother received no help from the police and had been living in fear.

The local community is in shock.

All the police and media focus seems to be on the driver. Yasmine's family themselves say he tried to save her.

It is just not good enough.

RIP Yasmine.Daffodil

Cocoabutterkim · 26/01/2022 08:13

I keep thinking about Yasmine’s poor children. Old enough to completely understand what their mother was going through and feeling helpless.

Does anyone know if the driver of the car has been released yet?

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