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To think this cartoon is NOT appropriate for an 11-year-old!?

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CowboyJo · 23/01/2022 21:31

So my eldest daughter is 11 and has started high school a few months ago. She's always been quite 'nerdy' in terms of her interests and has made a small group of friends into the same kind of things (Roblox, Pokemon, manga and drawing)

They sound nice enough girls from what she tells me (though slightly pampered) but ever since she's started at that school, the amount of times I had to tell her off for swearing recently was disgraceful.

Anyway while monitoring my daughter's iPad found she was really into this particular cartoon she loved. I don't know if its called Hazzun Hotel or Helluva Boss because its under both names(?) but I'm sure it's the same show. It looks like a child's show on the surface but I closely watched some of the episodes and it was absolutely shocking: loads of casual effing and blinding, crude jokes(like sex and bdsm, prostitutes).

When I found this out I talked to my daughter about it and told her it wasn't an appropriate thing for someone her age to be watching, but she argued back like "But all my friends watch it! We're not babies anymore!" etc. etc.

I spoke to DH about it and he thinks I was over the top to ban her from watching the cartoon completely because she loves it, just as long as she doesn't repeat the behaviours. But I'm not happy with that.

I'm not stupid I know she wouldn't of picked up the swearing from that show alone, but it really isn't content I'm happy to let her watch. The show has NOT FOR KIDS in each video so DD knows she shouldn't be watching it.

But am I being unreasonable to forbid her completely from watching it?

OP posts:
Muddywoof · 23/01/2022 22:29

I've seen all of both and I would not be happy for my child to watch until 15+. Even then I'd rather they didn't.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/01/2022 22:32

So, how's construction of a lead lined cupboard for her to stay in for the next 8 years or so going?

She leaves the house without you. She will watch it (and a whole lot more). She will swear - and if you think what she says at home is bad, you really don't want to be anywhere near a secondary school at breaktime or the bus stop at 3.30pm. And if you think that taking away access to a cartoon rated 12a will cause anything but her to not trust you with anything, you will be very much mistaken.

CowboyJo · 23/01/2022 22:32

@NeverDropYourMooncup

So, how's construction of a lead lined cupboard for her to stay in for the next 8 years or so going?

She leaves the house without you. She will watch it (and a whole lot more). She will swear - and if you think what she says at home is bad, you really don't want to be anywhere near a secondary school at breaktime or the bus stop at 3.30pm. And if you think that taking away access to a cartoon rated 12a will cause anything but her to not trust you with anything, you will be very much mistaken.

Please watch the show.

It is most definitely NOT 12A material.

OP posts:
IzzyD0ra · 23/01/2022 22:34

They are different shows, but set in the same universe. I wouldn’t have an issue with it, and I think at 11 banning it makes it more exciting

You think it's ok for 11 year olds to be exposed to themes of prostitution and bdsm?

joydivisionovengloves71 · 23/01/2022 22:40

@NeverDropYourMooncup

So, how's construction of a lead lined cupboard for her to stay in for the next 8 years or so going?

She leaves the house without you. She will watch it (and a whole lot more). She will swear - and if you think what she says at home is bad, you really don't want to be anywhere near a secondary school at breaktime or the bus stop at 3.30pm. And if you think that taking away access to a cartoon rated 12a will cause anything but her to not trust you with anything, you will be very much mistaken.

Ah here comes the cool mum...
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/01/2022 22:41

Perhaps your DH doesn't really know what it's like? Because if that's the case, showing him the link I found might give him an idea of why you're not keen on it for your DD.

aristotlesdeathray · 23/01/2022 22:42

[quote SpookyMargot]According to Wikipedia, it's an 'adult animated web series' so definitely not aimed at children.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazbin_Hotel[/quote]
Not aimed at but the certification is that it's appropriate for children

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/01/2022 22:43

Children over 15.

aristotlesdeathray · 23/01/2022 22:43

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Children over 15.
One of them yes

The other is a 12a

So suitable for children the OPs child's age and below with parental guidance

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/01/2022 22:44

The OP's child is 11, not 12. And parent seems to have decided that her guidance says "no".

aristotlesdeathray · 23/01/2022 22:45

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

The OP's child is 11, not 12. And parent seems to have decided that her guidance says "no".
Ooh one whole year

Get a grip

aristotlesdeathray · 23/01/2022 22:45

Also there is more than one parent involved in this decision who thinks otherwise

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/01/2022 22:46

I am simply pointing out that your comment is irrelevant.

aristotlesdeathray · 23/01/2022 22:48

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

I am simply pointing out that your comment is irrelevant.
Hardly irrelevant

You claimed they were 15+

One is

The other isn't

12a films and shows are very often watched by younger audiences, as they're for children - since I hope we can all be sensible and agree the mental difference between an 11 and 12 year old is non existent

Phewthatwasclose · 23/01/2022 22:52

Not ideal (understatement!) but as a pp says, unless you lock her up til she’s 18, you won’t be able to stop her being exposed to this stuff. For what it’s worth my friends and I all watched completely inappropriate stuff all the time, and are all sensible professionals in good relationships now, so……

nancy75 · 23/01/2022 22:53

my DH used to be a heavy swearer (he's Australian) 😂😂😂

angelikacpickles · 23/01/2022 23:06

12a films and shows are very often watched by younger audiences, as they're for children - since I hope we can all be sensible and agree the mental difference between an 11 and 12 year old is non existent

This makes no sense. Obviously, whoever decided on the rating scheme thinks there is a difference between what is suitable for 11 and 12 year olds, or the rating would be 11A. And if there's no difference between an 11 and 12 year old, is there a difference between a 10 and 11 year old?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/01/2022 23:25

Ah here comes the cool mum

I prefer to say realistic.

The stuff that actually goes on in and around secondary schools is too scary for the parents who believe a few bad words (of which they will have only heard a handful) and a cartoon that's hardly hentai are a horror that must be quashed at all costs.

Winniewonka · 23/01/2022 23:27

12A means a film can only be watched by a child under the age of 12 IF accompanied by an adult.

PG refers to a film that your child might find scary but others won't, hence parental guidance.

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:41

Here's some good alternatives
She ra (epic and great strong women)
Centureworld (crazish lots of song fun and darkish)
Dragon prince
Owl house
Adventure time
Kipp
Bob's burgers

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:42

Kipo silly auto correct

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:43

Amphibian

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:44

Hilda
A tale of dark and grim

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:46

The last kids on earth

Missingindevon · 23/01/2022 23:48

Introduce her to something new and hopefully the rest will follow. Maybe watch some trailers all of these are on either Netflix/Disney

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