To think that Angela Rayner could be PM one day.

[Breathoffreshair82]

I just think she's a breath of fresh air. She's real and authentic, she's come from a poor upbringing. She was her mums carer age 9, was a teenager mum, worked in social care and worked her way up the ladder. I just find it amazing that she's achieved all of this from how her life started. If she was running for PM and the next general election I will definitely be voting for her.

Angela Rayner is a caricature of working class people, not a real representation. She is also a caricature of what sexist people would call a ‘hysterical woman’. She absolutely cannot hold a coherent argument, seems to shout ‘oi scum’ at anyone she doesn’t like, as though she is on Jeremy Kyle.
The fact that people put someone on a pedestal for having a regional accent and a ‘backstory’ really lowers the bar for working class people. If Angela Rayner is considered the ceiling or aspiration for working class people, perhaps people should raise their bar and instead of patronising working class people.

Sorry, she's an awful politician. Foot constantly in mouth, bull in a china shop attitude and a huge inferiority complex she feels can be overcome by pulling everyone down.

Labour had one no hoper in Jeremy Corbin please don't give us another

@sst1234

Angela Rayner is a caricature of working class people, not a real representation. She is also a caricature of what sexist people would call a ‘hysterical woman’. She absolutely cannot hold a coherent argument, seems to shout ‘oi scum’ at anyone she doesn’t like, as though she is on Jeremy Kyle. The fact that people put someone on a pedestal for having a regional accent and a ‘backstory’ really lowers the bar for working class people. If Angela Rayner is considered the ceiling or aspiration for working class people, perhaps people should raise their bar and instead of patronising working class people.

Yes definitely Lauren, the Catherine Tate character. She even looks like her

@LarryTheLurker

Coarse, aggressive, vulgar and ignorant, she is a divisive class warrior and a stain on the House of Commons. The 'many people' whose lives she allegedly understands are a small and unrepresentative minority whose concerns are already well looked after by others more sensible and mature.

Nailed it. IMO

@sst1234

Angela Rayner is a caricature of working class people, not a real representation. She is also a caricature of what sexist people would call a ‘hysterical woman’. She absolutely cannot hold a coherent argument, seems to shout ‘oi scum’ at anyone she doesn’t like, as though she is on Jeremy Kyle. The fact that people put someone on a pedestal for having a regional accent and a ‘backstory’ really lowers the bar for working class people. If Angela Rayner is considered the ceiling or aspiration for working class people, perhaps people should raise their bar and instead of patronising working class people.

Also nailed it.

I doubt it. The public don’t have the stomach for anyone slightly different or normal. They’ve been conditioned to like the same kind of candidate from an advantaged background.

@Shade17

Interesting that my post was deleted when I simply used her own language to describe her and nothing more.

It's seems like a few of ours were. Funny that 🙄

Utterly unprofessional and rough as heck

I can’t comment too much on Rayner’s qualities as a politician, but it’s clear that some of the opposition to her is informed by snobbery. This is why the Tories are the “natural party of government”. Lots of people like the clipped accents and the experience at Public schools and Oxbridge. To counter this, I like to think of achievements of Ernest Bevin and Nye Bevan.

@DottyDoge

Utterly unprofessional and rough as heck

I can’t comment too much on Rayner’s qualities as a politician, but it’s clear that some of the opposition to her is informed by snobbery. This is why the Tories are the “natural party of government”. Lots of people like the clipped accents and the experience at Public schools and Oxbridge. To counter this, I like to think of achievements of Ernest Bevin and Nye Bevan.

You’ve worded that much better than I did, thank you. I kept stumbling with phrasing it and typing and retyping because I’m tired

Thankfully this will never happen

Generally English voters would rather doff their cap to those who went to Eton and the likes of Rees-Mogg. We would rather have a cabinet of MP's who vote against things like removing cladding for Grenfell type tower blocks or making it illegal to save people drowning in the channel so I can't see Angela Rayner ever getting near Downing St.

End of the day she wants to improve the lives of those at the lowest end of society and see less injustice but there's no real appetite for that here.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Completely agree with QueenPeony's post.

As do I.

Yvette Cooper for me.

@NiceTwin

I find her most obnoxious. I sincerely hope she doesn't.

She was an embarrassment at PMQ's the other week.

And today. Waving across the aisle like she’s a year nine rebel. It’s like she wandered into the commons by mistake when she was actually looking for the detention classroom. The woman is an embarrassment and I wish people would stop embarrassing actual high achieving working class women by giving her this label. Most professional women would be horrified to have her as a role model, she lowers standards so much.

“The woman is an embarrassment and I wish people would stop embarrassing actual high achieving working class women by giving her this label”

In what world is becoming Member of the Privy Council and Deputy Leader of the Opposition not an actual achievement?

I really hope not!

@hayley037

Generally English voters would rather doff their cap to those who went to Eton and the likes of Rees-Mogg. We would rather have a cabinet of MP's who vote against things like removing cladding for Grenfell type tower blocks or making it illegal to save people drowning in the channel so I can't see Angela Rayner ever getting near Downing St.

End of the day she wants to improve the lives of those at the lowest end of society and see less injustice but there's no real appetite for that here.

I think most people want an MP who knows what he or she is doing. I'd prefer an MP who understands the strategic importance of Ukraine, or a qualified lawyer who understands the legalities of the fire standards laws relating to Grenfell and can actually help bring the negligent companies to court.

When I hear someone calling a whole group of people Scum, I see someone who has nothing intelligent or constructive to say.

And that applies to all MPs in all parties.

This thread has really unearthed the resentment that working class women face.

On the one hand, Rayner is resented by those born into privilege simply because of her background. That’s enough.

On the other hand, she’s resented by those born into less privilege, for not aping the traditional route to success by doing well at school, getting into an elite university, changing her accent and getting into a competitive graduate scheme at a London consultancy or law firm.

@LarryTheLurker

Coarse, aggressive, vulgar and ignorant, she is a divisive class warrior and a stain on the House of Commons. The 'many people' whose lives she allegedly understands are a small and unrepresentative minority whose concerns are already well looked after by others more sensible and mature.

👏🏻

@Breathoffreshair82

I just think she's a breath of fresh air. She's real and authentic, she's come from a poor upbringing. She was her mums carer age 9, was a teenager mum, worked in social care and worked her way up the ladder. I just find it amazing that she's achieved all of this from how her life started. If she was running for PM and the next general election I will definitely be voting for her.

And that makes her fit to run the country? That is exactly what is wrong with politicians that have very little related experience aside from "understanding" people I am afraid she isn't bright enough for me

I like her. Don’t think she’s PM material, but she’s a good MP and challenging the Patriarchy in parliament.
Judging by the misogyny on this thread though, she certainly won’t be PM.

@DottyDoge

This thread has really unearthed the resentment that working class women face.

On the one hand, Rayner is resented by those born into privilege simply because of her background. That’s enough.

On the other hand, she’s resented by those born into less privilege, for not aping the traditional route to success by doing well at school, getting into an elite university, changing her accent and getting into a competitive graduate scheme at a London consultancy or law firm.

Exactly this. God forbid anyone outside the ‘acceptable norms’ should have a go. This thread is really sad to read.

Absolutely not. The press are already portraying her in a certain way, so she'll never be given a fair crack of the whip. I like her I think she's fearless and has strong opinions. She clearly hasn't been media trained yet which I like but she would possibly need if she really wanted to start playing the game.

@AlternativePerspective

Imagine an election where your choice of leader was between Boris Johnson and Angela Rayner. 😱😱😱

I'd find that a pretty easy choice to be honest. Someone who is a proven liar vs someone who maybe could do with learning how to sugarcoat the truth a bit.

@AlternativePerspective

Imagine an election where your choice of leader was between Boris Johnson and Angela Rayner. 😱😱😱

Christ Almighty! The lunatics really would have taken over the asylum.