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Presence of evil

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beachcitygirl · 17/01/2022 14:03

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from
The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

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Guacamole001 · 17/01/2022 17:51

I disagree ref evil. Evil does exist. Some people just turn out wrong. Irrespective of their upbringing education and social conditioning etc. Violent men for example. As has been said above Womens Aid would believe evil certainly exists.

MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 17/01/2022 17:52

But she’s worked hard not to antagonise “The Firm” and therefore any members of the public who see her now in photos can’t criticise her as she toes the line.

Bingo- you’ve a nailed exactly what people don’t like about Meghan. Meghan doesn’t toe the line, doesn’t behave like a princess, is smart enough to get her kids the hell away from the shitshow that is the royal family. She said “no” and she followed through, and people don’t like that.

Oneearringlost · 17/01/2022 17:52

@MoirasWigStand

The thing is, you may have got "feelings" about a few people, but only remember/confirm them when you later found out what they did. SO it doesn't prove anything.
This. Very important.Otherwise we can end up going down the route of vigilantes.
MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 17/01/2022 17:53

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry

Unfortunately (hate to derail this thread) - Meghan Markle has always given off a slightly smug vibe - regardless of anything else, her smile to me on the whole has always come across as insincere.

Whereas, e.g. Camilla Parker-Bowles (Duchess of Cornwall?) has always to me, seemed sincere in her manner and smiles, regardless of what she's actually done (e.g. had affair with Prince Charles)

Maybe that’s to do with the fact that Camilla grew up in and was well practised in that world, was very comfortable in it and her ease was apparent- it was her world. whereas Megan markle very much didn’t grow up in that world, nor even the UK and spent her adult years under the Hollywood glare, having to continually earn her place and so developed a “celeb” persona that of course isn’t her natural personality, and doesn’t fit so naturally with the world she then moved into and was clearly not as at ease in as camilla- who grew up in it- was.

My post of 17.12

I think you’ll find this is a quote of your post @Gonnagetgoing

CPL593H · 17/01/2022 17:53

@PeopleBakwas

17:29hangrylady

Alcohol and takeaways - you probably have a lot more to worry about than just your intuition

Not, however, the absence of a sense of humour
Kanaloa · 17/01/2022 17:53

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Nosetickle · 17/01/2022 17:57

I get this a lot. No idea if my feelings are correct but I get bad vibes from people and places for no apparent reason. Recently a car had been parking at the end of our road at the time I take my DC to school and a man would always get out just as we were walking past and stand by his car and I’d feel like he was just looking at us walking down the road. It was starting to unnerve me and I got a really bad feeling as we walked past him. Then one day once we had walked past him and were out of earshot my 5 year old asked “mummy is that a bad man?” Completely out of nowhere. So she was obviously getting the same vibe from him. Shortly after that he stopped parking there and I’ve never seen him again since. I’m sure and I hope there was an innocent enough reason for him to stand there looking at us walking to school! I’ll never know but it creeped me out big time.

ThePinkTeapot · 17/01/2022 17:58

I don’t believe in evil in the sense of someone being innately wicked from birth but yes, I do sometimes sense something about people and places. I don’t think it’s anything mystical or supernatural, just natural instincts picking up on stuff that’s just a bit off.

I remember when house hunting we viewed a three bed 1930s semi that had an awful atmosphere. Hard to put my finger on it but just felt really uncomfortable. Shame, as it was right location and on paper a good house, but we both agreed it wasn’t for us and we didn’t make an offer.

MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 17/01/2022 17:59

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CheltenhamLady · 17/01/2022 17:59

Yes, an acquaintances husband whom I also knew from school. He always used to go out of his way to kiss women when meeting them.
He gave me the creeps.

My friend's daughter was a friend of his son and she wouldn't have a lift from him in his car if she was alone, because she got a bad vibe from him too. Fast forward a few years and he committed suicide after being charged with molesting his daughter.

Staffy1 · 17/01/2022 17:59

@MmeD, I’m sure a lot of people who only say they had always felt something about a person after an event didn’t really.

Gonnagetgoing · 17/01/2022 18:02

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HippyMoon · 17/01/2022 18:03

This was a really interesting thread to read before the Meghan Markle shite started - pack it in ffs!

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bubbleblower85 · 17/01/2022 18:05

@Gonnagetgoing lol isn't it funny how opinions can differ widely.

Again not wanting to derail....
I find Kate Middleton utterly insincere and fake, William too. Kate response to being told in India that children get amputated purposefully so they can be forced to beg was "how interesting", not how sad/awful etc. I know of someone who worked in the Foreign office and they said William and Kate had a reputation as not very nice.

I eye roll at Camilla's involvement with DV as she was emotionally abusive and gaslighting to a teenage/young Diana.

On the other hand knowing about Meghan's past work in charity sector even before the limelight she is under now makes me 💯 believe in her sincerity.

SailingNotSurfing · 17/01/2022 18:05

Oh Christ, has this thread turned into another Meghan Markle hate one? That poor woman Isn't evil personified, she's just a pretty American actress who caught Prince Harry's eye.

Evil personified to me are the mothers of Shannon Matthews and Baby P, Tracey Connelly, and the husband and wife team of Mick and Mairead Philpott.

Malibuismysecrethome · 17/01/2022 18:05

I actually think Camilla is a genuine and sincere person and has natural class.

TheWernethWife · 17/01/2022 18:10

I found Culloden Moor very peaceful but my daughter got the most painful headache. She said it felt like she'd been hit on the head with a hammer.

bubbleblower85 · 17/01/2022 18:13

@Kanaloa

She attracts those very vague ‘something I don’t like about her’ comments because ‘I worship the royal family like there’s something special about them and the idea of an American - a mixed race American ACTRESS - being jumped up enough to think she’s good enough to consort with them disgusts me’ would probably get deleted.

Because realistically her ‘insincere smile’ is just a normal smile. It’s no less sincere than Kate’s or William’s or Meryl Streep’s.

😃👍👏👏👏 hit the nail on the head!
Topseyt · 17/01/2022 18:13

@HippyMoon

This was a really interesting thread to read before the Meghan Markle shite started - pack it in ffs!
Absolutely this! Why has an interesting and fun thread turned into a Meghan Markle debate? It should have had no connection with her whatsoever.

Stop. Get back to the real subject of the thread.

Nowayoutonlydown · 17/01/2022 18:14

Yep, one man I met at a friend's house, he turns up, he's talking and talking and talking. Saying lots and lots of good stuff about himself literally bigging himself up and I can't quite put my finger on it, but the more he talked, the more uneasy I felt about him.

I was saying I had to go home. He asked where I lived, I told him that I lived in the vicinity I lived in, but gave an opposite sort of area (for example, I live by the tescos, yeah on the main road infront of it instead of 4 streets behind) he offered to take me home.

Oh that's kind, but my husband will collect me.

I went home and text friend, don't EVER put Mr in a situation where I'm around him again please, and be careful of him yourself.

She text me that night and asked how I knew.

Knew what?

That he had raped and attempted to murder his ex.hes on some sort of lifelong thing where he has to give the details of his crime before he sleeps with someone.

This man gave me serious spidey senses

Tillymintpolo · 17/01/2022 18:17

I found Auschwitz to be peaceful, especially Birkenau, our guide said it was because of all the prayers and blessings that are said every day

Survivingmy3yearold · 17/01/2022 18:17

Years ago I worked at a social club. An older guy used to drink in there seemed nice enough but something just didn't quite sit right. I could never put my finger on what it was. He was publicly busted meeting up with who he thought was a 14 year old girl for sex by a paedophile hunter a while after I left. I was shocked at first but the feeling of unease then made sense

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