Presence of evil

[beachcitygirl]

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from
The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

The Holocaust, the horrors of the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, and Idi Amins reign of terror in Uganda, and the control of people in Afghanistan and Syria at present, are just a few examples that can and do show the evil some humans are capable of. Perhaps some of you prefer to swap the word “evil” with “bad”, but that’s semantics, surely? But, if you prefer to use the word “evil”, then I think you’d be hard pressed to say it doesn’t exist. Now, as to whether evil is something that is a separate thing to anything humans are capable of inflicting upon each other is a moot point, and certainly worthy of discussion.

Culloden Moor has a terrible atmosphere. I once visited a stately home in Yorkshire and commented to the guide that the library had an awful atmosphere of evil. It turned out someone had been murdered in that room.

I stayed over at someone’s house one night and was at work early the next morning. I got up and the bathroom was downstairs so started getting ready and had the most overwhelming feeling of a presence in the room so I moved rooms to the living room, I was bent over looking in my bag stood up and all of a sudden I felt as if someone was in my face stood right next to me, so close like I couldn’t breathe properly. No one was there and I felt like I had to just get out of there. I told him about it later that day, he told me I wasn’t the first person to say something along those lines and he had had weird things happen in the house too. There was a cellar that was locked by the owner of the house, who knows what could be down there. Ive never felt nothing like that again and I work in an old hospital

@beachcitygirl

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

I prob should preface this by saying it's been reported to everyone possible.

The week between Christmas and new year I had a hermes delivery, the driver repeatedly asked questions regards who lived in the house, he was one I've never seen before, asked if it was my husbands car/van or my dads, it's mine, asked just loads of leading questions, came back once more and asked if I was home alone. I wasn't my adult son was visiting, I didn't tell him that just said no. At 1am that very night I have him parked up and watching my house on cctv. When he came again in the new year, asked my 14 year old if she was home alone, when I got home I ordered a ring doorbell so I can not go to the door, and he's been on. Our cctv a further two times, I have a different hermes driver now, who I've spoken to about it, the regular guy who has been doing this round 3 years, and he knows who it is. I've spoken to hermes and the police. They can't stop him parking on my road but have 'red buttoned' my address, and taken the cctv.
Literally gave me the heebie jeebies from the minute I opened the door the first time, hence why I've checked the cctv EVERY NIGHT FOR WEEKS. we're quite rural and it's made me feel unsafe, I can't leave my kids at home alone, I can't go out to return late alone, I can't stay in the house alone.
If I hadn't felt creeped out I wouldn't have even looked through my cctv, and now it's obsessive.

@bloodynamechangethe3rd that is horrible. It must be an awful time for you. I hope he gets done for something else (that doesn’t involve hurting anyone) so you won’t have to worry anymore. Have you got a dog? I wonder is there anything the police could suggest doing as a deterrent.

@bloodynamechangedthethird that is terrible, no one should feel unsafe like that. Is it not classed as stalking? I'm certainly no expert and I may be wrong but surely the police can go after him for stalking you? He sounds dangerous, please keep on at the police to do something. Have they spoken to him? I'm so sorry you are going through this, you must be so frightened.

@Fluffycloudland77

I feel an oppressive force in Somerset. There’s just something that feels heavy about it.

I’m ok driving through it but we stayed overnight once and I did not like it at all.

I grew up there and remember my mum having terrible headaches/migraines that she hasn't had since we left. My daughter has this "heavy" sensation when we visit Bath. This might be why: www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/most-radioactive-places-uk-somerset-3859192

I get terrible feelings when I have to visit Skye, but that's purely because it has trees and I appear to be allergic to some of them (virtually no trees where I live). It seems odd to write off whole counties- are there strict boundaries to these things? I spent most of my half term holidays in Wincanton as a kid, and loved it there- a whole week with family, who actually liked me(big change from home and boarding school) and the benefits of being on a farm, plus cream teas! I never once felt oppressed in any way.

Culloden Moor is a fairly bleak place, and some people tend to ascribe personalities to landscapes, so I suppose it's understandable. But is there really anyone who would end up there and not know in advance that it was the scene of a major battle? There just isn't a credible way to definitely state that the feelings experienced there are from the place and not the head of the person experiencing them.

Does the oppressive force in Somerset have the initials JRM?

I used to live in Zimbabwe, in about 1995/6 an American working at one of the missions not far from where we lived was arrested on suspicion of poisoning his landlady. We had a very religious friend who knew him and swore blind that the police had it wrong, he couldn’t possibly be guilty as he was such a lovely Christian person and would never have done anything like that. We didn’t know him but a short while later our friend went very quiet about how lovely he was. His name was Michael Swango and as it turned out he was quite a notorious serial killer who had started off in the States then when things got too hot there he’d moved to Africa and carried on where he thought he wouldn’t be caught. Just goes to show that you can’t always tell - I’d be interested to know what she thought of him these days!

@TatianaBis

existential / anthropomorphic / synthetic / economic are also adjectives, but you wouldn't use them to describe a human being. It depends upon your interpretation of 'evil', if you think it means immoral and/or cruel, then OK. although why not just say that instead?. I don't interpret it in that way

If your interpretation of evil is that it is supernatural, why not just say that instead?

Because I was replying to a post talking about people being evil, so that wouldn't have made sense in context. Maybe I should have stuck in an etc?

@Staffy1

existential / anthropomorphic / synthetic / economic are also adjectives, but you wouldn't use them to describe a human being. It depends upon your interpretation of 'evil', if you think it means immoral and/or cruel, then OK. although why not just say that instead?. I don't interpret it in that way

As the dictionary definition is immoral and cruel, why not say evil as it’s easier being one word

Because I don't see evil as a human trait which was what the poster I was replying to was saying and was the point of my post

The MAIN point of my post was, just because 'evil' is an adjective doesn't mean that makes it necessarily valid to use in a human sense. The poster was saying something like, well it's an adjective and we use other adjectives to describe people/humans therefore we can use that one. I was just saying that we use lots of adjectives for other things that aren't human, so it doesn't necessarily follow... IMO

@Mothership4two

The MAIN point of my post was, just because 'evil' is an adjective doesn't mean that makes it necessarily valid to use in a human sense. The poster was saying something like, well it's an adjective and we use other adjectives to describe people/humans therefore we can use that one. I was just saying that we use lots of adjectives for other things that aren't human, so it doesn't necessarily follow... IMO

Equally just because you personally don’t see it as a human trait it doesn’t mean it’s not valid for other people to use it as such. I disagree with you and will describe acts such as the Holocaust as evil acts. It is not an inaccurate statement just because you don’t like the word. Evil does not mean supernatural even if you think it should.

Sounds really odd but cliff Richard gives me a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever i see him on tv. His eyes remind me of a shark, dead and soulless.

Agree re cliff Richard
Dead eyes

I thought Elmgrove was a hoax @bubbleblower85?

No it sadly it wasn't a hoax, boys were abused in that place, there is a lot of evil that happens that get covered up/made to go away by those in power in government/media/police.
Why do you think Saville got away with his crimes? Not to mention others like Mountbatten, Cyril Smith, Ted Heath, Leon Britten etc

@Mothership4two

The MAIN point of my post was, just because 'evil' is an adjective doesn't mean that makes it necessarily valid to use in a human sense. The poster was saying something like, well it's an adjective and we use other adjectives to describe people/humans therefore we can use that one. I was just saying that we use lots of adjectives for other things that aren't human, so it doesn't necessarily follow... IMO

You can’t just make up definitions of words. If you arbitrarily decide that to you, evil is not a human trait, that a human cannot carry out evil act/s, that evil only refers to a supernatural force, then a. That is a fairly idiosyncratic interpretation unsupported by the dictionary and b. You need to define that upfront.

Mickey Rourke around the time of the film 9.5 weeks (even though I don't remember ever watching the film) makes my stomach turn. Something feels very creepy about him then.

@Millionairesshortbreadshort

Strawberry33

I work in a secure psychiatric hospital and the particular ward I’m on is predominately personality disorders- so borderline personality disorder, sociopaths, ect. I notice the energy changes around them. Sort of an electric like feeling. Like fizzing. It’s strange. Just feels dark and unsettling. Not all of them but the ones who haven’t given me
That have normally turned out to have a
Different mental illness once assessed. It’s got to the point that I can tell when they walk in the room if they are very unwell without them opening their mouths even.

Can we just be very careful here about what you are saying. I want to be very clear that a diagnosis of any mental illness does NOT equate to evil, danger or the ability to carry out awful acts. You work on a secure psychiatric unit. Only those who pose some kind of threat to other are therefore on that ward yes? Or possibly threat to themselves?

A diagnosis of a personality disorder is NOT akin to evil or dangerousness. There are hundreds of people out there with a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder. Most are just human beings who suffered tremendously as children who therefore developed survival and coping strategies that had a detrimental impact on how their ‘personality’ developed for example.

Agreed. As someone who is borderline myself, this made for a horrible read that people may be sensing 'dark energy' from me.
You'd hope those working in a MH setting may have a bit more sensitivity than this.

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This is bunch of crap. Read some fucking books.