Presence of evil

[beachcitygirl]

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from
The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

@BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ

The remaining gas chamber at Auschwitz II-Birkenau. Which is hardly a shock, I know. The rest of the camp was horrible but didn't make me feel prickly and uneasy and sick like the corridor down to that chamber did. When I got in there I felt like I was going to faint; the walls seemed to be sweating evil. Terrible place.

Hardly surprising. This was where Evil was made flesh. I watched a film made in 1950's about the Holocaust recently and it was beyond horrific. A few years ago, there was an Exhibition on at Imperial War Museum, and that had a very sobering effect on people visiting, as well. Especially the shoes, as they linked so much with the murdered people who had worn them. Rest in Peace.

Yes- Gerry Adams. Three foot away from me. I wanted to vomit.

@Staffy1

I’m a bit sceptical of some of these feelings people have where they just knew someone was a wrong’un. There are two high profile cases I can think of where two innocent people had their names raked through the mud by the press and people were coming out of the woodwork to say how they had always found them weird and creepy. I hope they felt a bit of remorse when they were found to be innocent.

Was one of those Christopher Jefferies? Met one of his ex pupils the other day, who said ''I knew it couldhan;t have been Christopher, as he was so weak, we had to open doors for him, no way could he have done what he was alleged to have done.

Luckily he was exonerated.
Just because he looked a little 'Different' and 'liked books' doesn't make him a creepy killer.
I'm glad Jefferies was awarded huge compensation for the way he was mistreated.
Not one shred of anything untoward was found on his computers or in his home.

I worked in a court setting and only once in ten years did someone give me chills. I didn’t know what this man was in court for but he just looked at me and smiled, my blood ran cold and I wanted away from there ASAP. Turned out he was being accused by his sister of raping her when they were young. Having said that his father had apparently sexually abused him and was a suspect in Madeline McCann’s case.

@MorningStarling

In a tunnel at Newhaven Fort. You walk down steps into the tunnel, fine. Walk along the tunnel, fine until there's a very evil presence. If you walk past it the atmosphere suddenly lightens again, but at some point you have to turn back and walk through it again to get out.

I had a very scared feeling when looking at flats by the library in Newhaven. Couldn't breathe and ran out leaving the estate agent in there. It happened in two different flats, and also in a flat belonging to a friend. (She had no problems in her flat). The flats were originally a convent, but the place was requisitioned during the war and used to billet the Canadian troops, who were absolutely massacred. I wonder if I pick up on the fear those boys must have felt the night before they went over to France. Not exactly what the OP was asking about, I know. I didn't like the tunnels at the fort either.

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Thought of another, a man has been to the house selling aerial photographs of your house a couple of times and he gives me the major heebie jeebies. Last time he just walked into the house through my open back door which you can only access through quite a hidden side gate . I actually bought the picture so he wouldn’t come back. Seemed to know a fair amount about me too. Very creepy.

@ChinstrapBobblehat

That is a really good potential explanation, yes.

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry

I mean there are dozens of people here asserting that evil does exist- surely that’s equally as arrogant?

It’s not arrogant to question the nature of good or evil. We are trying to rationalize the actions of others. We are allowed to have our opinions here. I think the way you are reacting to posters is unpleasant and uncalled for, but that’s just my opinion.

When I first moved into my current apartment complex (not sure what they would be called there), I met a lovely young woman named Summer. Summer and I chatted occasionally when we met at the post boxes and such. One day, she was there with her husband. I got cold chills when I first laid eyes on him. There was just something very off about him, to me. They invited me over for supper and to play cards, and I excused myself with a blatant lie about another engagement. Days after that, Summer disappeared. It later came out that the husband killed her very brutally, and with the help of his mother, dismembered her and disposed of the body in several places.

@Whatafielddayfortheheat

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. I am a teacher, I teach mainly little ones (under 8). I've taught hundreds of kids in my time. One child - I'm not sure about evil as such but I was genuinely afraid of him. Not of what he might do to me - he was far too young of course - but just of who he was and might become, if that makes sense. I believe he was a psychopath and would not be surprised if he ended up committing violent crime when older. I have never felt that before or since - I love kids. It was just bizarre and I could never say it IRL.

Same here. Teaching 27 years and only once thought that a child had no morals/ social conscience and made me chill to my bones. He was a twin, and although the boys were very close his brother was completely different, a cheeky chappy really. The troubling twin had eyes that were co pletely dead and stared right through you. He seemed to stare right into your soul and then sneer. He didn't say much most of the time, which wS creepier. I think he was a psychopath / sociopath.

He'll be around 19 now, I keep waiting to see if he'll ever come up on the local news.

I’m exactly the same - when Saville came in I used to tell my mum to turn it over as I really didn’t like him, he made me feel uncomfortable

I have the exact same situation with an older guy who works in the same organisation as me! When I first started, everyone would call him Jesus because he "was so caring and thoughtful and giving" and I just feel the strangest way towards him. And "pedophile" is always in the back of my mind too! He's retiring thank God!

It's a shame the thread was ruined by first the Megan Markle thing then the bickering and insults.

@2Gen I believe in God and the devil too, therefore demons. I think there's probably evil everywhere. I don't believe evil forces can make anyone do anything. I do think however that they can influence people, who can then go on to make evil choices.
I have experienced evil, and whilst I'm not afraid of it, I wouldn't want to experience it again.

@Puffalicious that's exactly how I'd describe the child in question as well. It's the eyes.

As a few PP have suggested a lot of the 'sense of evil' is the picking up of small expressions and behaviours which are slightly off.

A very senior colleague of mine was talking to my boss. He was using the full force of his charm on her. She was like putty in his hands. It wasnt sexual but it was like she glowed under his charm. I was sat slightly to one side and just felt that the charm was a total act. It was like I could see round the side of his charm mask.

I also think some places have the potential for evil acts to be done in them and that is what we pick up on: dark doorways, pillars, a sense of no escape, dense woodland. It is this sense which stopped us going to far into the backs of caves where the bears lived. We are descended from those people.

Evil as a literal, residual ‘energy’ obviously doesn’t exist. So no, I haven’t felt it in the way the op describes.

But certainly I’ve had bad vibes about people and places, as anyone would.

It’s not arrogant to question the nature of good or evil. We are trying to rationalize the actions of others.

No I was talking about the people asserting that evil exists.

We are allowed to have our opinions here.

Well, exactly.

@Lanique

The only place I can think of right now was, for me, Hatshepsut's Temple in Egypt. I remember feeling the most almighty sense of dread and have never been to a place more hostile and unwelcoming in my life. I felt really rattled and just wanted to get away from there as quickly as possible. It may have had something to do with the massacre of 62 tourists that had taken place there just four years before we visited, or due to its earlier troubled past. All I know is that I never want to go there again!

That's really interesting. I was there the year before that massacre, and I felt completely the opposite.

I stood there with my back to the temple and felt the most incredible sense of peace, wellbeing and (wanky though it sounds) strength. I'm not saying that I was channeling Hatshepsut , but I just felt really ... well somehow.

Absolutely love Egypt.

@Thatsplentyjack, I was curious about your being spooked in Killin, so I dug up this bit of info from Scottish Places. In the ruins of Finlarig Castle right above the road you would have followed to the loch are the remains of a beheading pit where prisoners were forced to kneel and be executed. It seems like your sense of tragedy and hidden graves was correct.

There are a lot of “place where I knew something bad had happened before felt off somehow” posts on here.

Yeah, with that prior knowledge, no shit!

@ManicPixie

Evil as a literal, residual ‘energy’ obviously doesn’t exist. So no, I haven’t felt it in the way the op describes.

But certainly I’ve had bad vibes about people and places, as anyone would.

A very good friend of mine who was quite into spiritualism, once explained why sometimes an area or room makes one shiver and gives an un easy feeling... her view was that once, something bad happened there or was planned there.

She fixed my very bad back with Shiatsu, after i was told by many medical experts it was untreated without an operation, believed in energy ley lines both in the body and the land.. which is also thought to be mumbo jumbo too..... i had a lot of time for her, she died many years ago.

[quote groovergirl]@Thatsplentyjack, I was curious about your being spooked in Killin, so I dug up this bit of info from Scottish Places. In the ruins of Finlarig Castle right above the road you would have followed to the loch are the remains of a beheading pit where prisoners were forced to kneel and be executed. It seems like your sense of tragedy and hidden graves was correct.[/quote]
Oh bloody hell 😳 thanks for that @groovergirl, that's fascinating. I'll need to tell my parents.

@Butteryflakycrust83 The sense of impending doom is actually a medical symptom. For something that strong and that recent, maybe have a chat with your GP.

“ She fixed my very bad back with Shiatsu, after i was told by many medical experts it was untreated without an operation, believed in energy ley lines both in the body and the land.. which is also thought to be mumbo jumbo too..... i had a lot of time for her, she died many years ago.”

A shiatsu is a physical massage though? Not sure what the spiritualism part has to do with it. She didn’t cure you telepathically.