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To think we are doing nothing wrong! Child benefit?

58 replies

Damnman · 14/01/2022 10:34

Name changed.

We are moving to Ireland for my dh's job but I still work for a U.K. company (remotely) My dm is adamant I need to cancel my child benefit before I move as the dc won't be in the country! I haven't looked into it correctly yet. But as far as I can see we are still entitled to it as I technically work for the U.K.? I don't think I need to cancel before I go...I don't want to act out of haste to be honest.

Obviously I'll start my research but does anyone know off hand

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Peas252 · 14/01/2022 10:36

I think you will need to wait for Sue Grays report for a definitive answer.

DappledThings · 14/01/2022 10:36

www.gov.uk/child-benefit-abroad.

Seems pretty clear you need to tell them and get it cancelled.

FinallyFluid · 14/01/2022 10:37

Why does your mother even have an opinion ?

Not sure what the rules are, but start filtering your information to your mother or she will think she owns your life (ask me how I know)

Monkeybutt1 · 14/01/2022 10:38

I believe she is correct, child benefit has nothing to do with the company you work for, so if your child/ren is/are not living in England they would not be entitled to child benefit.

Mundra · 14/01/2022 10:39

Isn't Irish child benefit higher?

titchy · 14/01/2022 10:40

Of course you need to cancel it Confused

You'll also need to check the tax position with being a non-dom - that's your big issue!

Playhousearmy · 14/01/2022 10:41

Would you be eligible for Childrens Allowance in Ireland? I’m not sure of the rules around it for people moving but it’s not means tested and I believe it’s more than child benefit (could be wrong about that!)

MsAgnesDiPesto · 14/01/2022 10:43

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/962392/CH5-Notes-2021.pdf

Here is the government document you need.

minou123 · 14/01/2022 10:44

Just going to post the same link

www.gov.uk/child-benefit-abroad

As none of the family will be living in the UK, your job working for a UK company is irrelevant, unless you work for the Crown.

If you call the Child Benefit helpline and tellnthem all the circumstances they will advise you.

MsAgnesDiPesto · 14/01/2022 10:44

But you also need to look very carefully at your tax situation. That could be big thing which bites you on the arse if you get it wrong.

Does your employer know you are permanently moving out of the UK?

Ponoka7 · 14/01/2022 10:45

If he is on a trial period then you could technically get it for eight weeks. If you meet habitual residence, then you are better applying for CB were you will be living.

Ponoka7 · 14/01/2022 10:46

@FinallyFluid

"Why does your mother even have an opinion ?"

Because you worry about your children commiting fraud and don't want your DD to lose money.

Nutsabouttopic · 14/01/2022 10:47

You cancel child benefit and apply for children's allowance in Ireland. You can do this once you are living in Ireland. You can do this online or

Nutsabouttopic · 14/01/2022 10:51

Sorry my dog jumped on my lap and I hit send.
You can do this online or fill in a form at your nearest post office.
Children's allowance is 140 euro a month paid on the first Tuesday.
You can get it paid into a bank account or collect it at the post office

onetwothreeadventure · 14/01/2022 10:53

There's some info on www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/ireland_and_the_uk/cross_border_workers.html

Damnman · 14/01/2022 10:54

Thanks everyone I have just had a quick look and it seems it may be easier to claim in Ireland but if he didn't work in Ireland we would claim from the U.K. and be topped up from Ireland.

To think we are doing nothing wrong! Child benefit?
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FinallyFluid · 14/01/2022 11:00

[quote Ponoka7]@FinallyFluid

"Why does your mother even have an opinion ?"

Because you worry about your children commiting fraud and don't want your DD to lose money.[/quote]
I get that, but I have learnt from bitter experience that the more of your financials you share the more of an opinion people want to have about them.

ShaneTheThird · 14/01/2022 11:01

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/01/2022 11:03

On the page a pp linked to there looks to be an exception for certain countries including Ireland.

But I’d probably phone them and let them know, and then you can check.

reluctantbrit · 14/01/2022 11:05

Honestly, the child benefit is the least of your issues. You need urgently to speak to your work as it affects tax, your own status and the company paying tax for a non-dom.

Damnman · 14/01/2022 11:12

@reluctantbrit that is all ok as Ireland and U.K. have a double taxation agreement. @MsAgnesDiPesto yes of course they know, they are ok with it. It is 100% remote and several people work abroad (but not Ireland)

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BobbyeinArkansas · 14/01/2022 11:17

Get CB in Ireland. It’s far more generous and unlike here, everyone can get it, irrespective of earnings.
(Bitter me? No, never!😀 )

LakieLady · 14/01/2022 11:28

I just had to look this up in the CPAG handbook, as everything's changed since Brexit and I don't know the new rules (although if you were an Irish citizen asking about getting CB here, it would have been an instant "yes").

Imo, you can't continue to get CB because you will not be "ordinarily resident" in the UK (that was the easy bit) but you will be able to claim the Irish equivalent under the UK-Ireland Convention on Social Security, providing you meet whatever conditions/criteria apply to Irish nationals.

Damnman · 14/01/2022 11:31

@LakieLady yes it seems if we moved over and my dh didn't not have a job here then we claim from the U.K. and Ireland tops it up. However as one of us has a job in Ireland we then get it all paid from ROI.

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RenGreen · 14/01/2022 11:36

Not sure why people are advising OP on quns other than the one asked!