To think we are doing nothing wrong! Child benefit?

[Damnman]

Name changed.

We are moving to Ireland for my dh's job but I still work for a U.K. company (remotely) My dm is adamant I need to cancel my child benefit before I move as the dc won't be in the country! I haven't looked into it correctly yet. But as far as I can see we are still entitled to it as I technically work for the U.K.? I don't think I need to cancel before I go...I don't want to act out of haste to be honest.

Obviously I'll start my research but does anyone know off hand

@RenGreen I know

[quote Damnman]**@reluctantbrit* that is all ok as Ireland and U.K. have a double taxation agreement. @MsAgnesDiPesto* yes of course they know, they are ok with it. It is 100% remote and several people work abroad (but not Ireland) [/quote]
@Damnman be VERY careful here. You really do need specialist tax advice even with the double taxation agreement in place. If your DH’s work isn’t supplying that, I suggest you keep a diary of every ‘midnight’ he spends in each jurisdiction from the time you move. You’ll need it.

As you can probably tell, I’ve been bitten by this one.

@Mundra

Isn't Irish child benefit higher?

It is.

I worked remotely for my old UK employer when we moved to NZ, but I had to cancel my CB as we weren't physically in the country. This was 9 years ago though, so might be worth a call to the CB helpline.

@Damnman be VERY careful here. You really do need specialist tax advice even with the double taxation agreement in place. If your DH’s work isn’t supplying that, I suggest you keep a diary of every ‘midnight’ he spends in each jurisdiction from the time you move. You’ll need it
As you can probably tell, I’ve been bitten by this one

Ha, same here. Yes OP don’t just rely on what the company are advising, get your own independent advice. And if there’s any chance of him working elsewhere during the course of a tax year, keep very detailed information of where/when and how many hours worked in each location. Years ago DH and I worked abroad and had a no income tax status in the U.K. as we had no income here (paid the income tax of the country we worked in). I came back here, no issues. DH came back later and requested proof that he’d been out of the country for the previous how ever many years (can’t remember but think they want three years proof) during the qualifying periods. Thank god he is so anal, he’d kept years worth of boarding cards, receipts, and his work diaries. The rules have changed since then, but even so it was a huge worry at the time. (I’ll never complain about his hoarding tendencies again)

@Peas252

I think you will need to wait for Sue Grays report for a definitive answer.

That should read HMRC requested proof…..

That link up thread says that if you will still be paying UK NI you are still entitled to it.

Living in the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
If you moved to an EU countryy_, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein before 1 January 2021 (or if you’re covered by another condition of the EU Withdrawal Agreement) you might get Child Benefit for children living with you. You’ll need to be both:
• liable to keep paying National Insurance in the UKK_
• employed or self-employed

The child won’t be in this country though

The reason that PP's are asking/advising about the OP's tax position is that they don't want her/her employer to fall into a trap.
It might not be as simple as double taxation agreements

I work remotely for our UK based company but they have explicitly stated we have to be resident in the UK for tax purposes. Not just for our own personal tax position but the company too.
They may be liable for other corporation taxes if their employees are resident outside the UK
Hence the blanket ban and hence pp's suggesting getting specialist tax advice for her and not just her DH

@NorthSouthcatlady

The child won’t be in this country though

Yes but the link states that's ok if you have moved to an EU country and child is living with you. So it factors in that the child also won't be in the UK.

Child benefit in ireland is 140€ per month per child. Everyone qualifies for it no matter what your income/ occupation is

[quote Damnman]**@reluctantbrit* that is all ok as Ireland and U.K. have a double taxation agreement. @MsAgnesDiPesto* yes of course they know, they are ok with it. It is 100% remote and several people work abroad (but not Ireland) [/quote]
That’s not quite right on the double tax agreement, it doesn’t just blanket mean that you don’t need to worry about tax.

If you are living and working in Ireland then the DTA says that your employment income is taxed in Ireland. It would only be taxed in the UK if your employment is exercised in the UK.

Subject to the detail, your employer should probably be operating Irish payroll on your salary and you shouldn’t be paying UK tax at all.

@MerlinsButler the link / bit you quoted is very clear: you need to have moved to the EU before 1 January 2021 to qualify. The OP hasn't moved yet, so won't be able to get British CB payments when she moves to Ireland.

Can everyone please stop telling me about tax...it is being sorted with my workplace and a tax advisor. Again we are not fully informed yet. But it is what it is. I'll do whatever I have to do.

@Damnman

Can everyone please stop telling me about tax...it is being sorted with my workplace and a tax advisor. Again we are not fully informed yet. But it is what it is. I'll do whatever I have to do.

Imagine people who have been in the same situation actually trying to help. How very dare they 🙄

@Toottooot I appreciate that, but I asked about child benefit to be fair not the tax situation

@Damnman

Can everyone please stop telling me about tax...it is being sorted with my workplace and a tax advisor. Again we are not fully informed yet. But it is what it is. I'll do whatever I have to do.

You said it’s all ok as there’s a double taxation agreement. You didn’t say you had a tax advisor. Pardon those of us who’ve had annoying situations to unpick for trying to help.

Good luck with your move.

*Why does your mother even have an opinion ?

Not sure what the rules are, but start filtering your information to your mother or she will think she owns your life (ask me how I know)*

Because some people are close to their Mums and discuss things with them? How bizarre

@Rosesandblossoms and again I shouldn't really have had to answer it anyway because my question was not about that. And there is a double taxation agreement which is so far as much as I know...but thank you

Because you will be paid by the UK (although I know your DH will have a job in Ireland), I think you need to check with the EU section of child benefit in Ireland. The number for the child benefit section is +353 74 9164496. Ask to be transferred to the EU section. Despite Brexit, they are still dealing with UK cases in the EU section. They are the ones who would assess your claim. I'd also call the equivalent UK dept.

I would find out the information before you move as you can't claim child benefit in both countries. My understanding from dealing with the child benefit dept in Ireland is they contact their UK counterpart once a claim is submitted which results in the UK child benefit being cancelled. If Ireland then decide the UK should be paying, they'll cancel your claim, more than likely without notifying the UK. You could end up with an admin nightmare that will take ages to sort out and no child benefit while it gets sorted out.

@Chulainn thank you that's very helpful I'll give them a call!

@Damnman you didn’t have to answer it. But also, you didn’t have to be rude about comments that were made in the context of the evolving conversation on the thread.

Anyway, I’m off to get on with my day.

[quote Damnman]@Rosesandblossoms and again I shouldn't really have had to answer it anyway because my question was not about that. And there is a double taxation agreement which is so far as much as I know...but thank you[/quote]
People are commenting on the tax situation as you appear to be misunderstanding.

Great there is a double taxation agreement, there is with many countries. That does not mean you do not to pay tax in the appropriate way, all it means is that the countries have come to an agreement as to how the tax should be paid in particular circumstances.

Tax from employment should be paid in the country in which the employee carries out that work, the location of the employer has no relevance. Your company should be moving you to an Irish employing company (if they have one) or at least administering an Irish payroll.