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AIBU?

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To not vote for Labour as a former conservative voter, would you vote for Labour now?

139 replies

SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 13:42

Just that. This thread is for anyone who has voted conservative in the past to ask what you’d do in the future. Please don’t derail with anything else.

I voted conservative most of my life until Boris came along. I voted LD in the last election not just because of Brexit, but because I couldn’t support the way that Boris conducted himself and his party.

But. If there were an election tomorrow I couldn’t bring myself to vote Labour. I can’t put my finger on why. It’s partly because KS just hasn’t cut through, I don’t question his integrity but I can’t quite see him as a statesman? And partly because Angela Raynor makes me worried that the Corbyn politics could rear their head again at any moment. Rightly or wrongly, she comes across to me as being too aggressively against people who have made a success of their lives —there, I said it— !!

So I wondered how many former conservative voters feel the same or not and why… partly as a proxy for how BJ might weather the partygate storm?

YANBU - I don’t want to vote conservative but Labour haven’t convinced me either so I won’t be voting for them

YABU - I don’t want to vote conservative again and I’d vote Labour

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Mumofsend · 12/01/2022 13:44

I will most likely vote tactically next time and whoever is most likely to win other than tories will get my vote.

I live in a extremely hard-core blue area though so it is still futile

ana1s · 12/01/2022 13:48

I couldn’t vote for either party. I say that as someone who has voted Conservative in the past, but would not vote for this disgusting, corrupt Brexiteer shower. Couldn’t vote Labour either as they seem all over the place and the only time I hear anything from KS is some moral high-ground retrospective comment - ie easy point scoring whenever possible. Apart from that, he’s a non-entity. If I was forced to vote, it would be LD. Not a wasted vote where I live as it’s a LD borough (Richmond upon Thames).

SisyphusDad · 12/01/2022 13:50

I'm with you on your first sentence @Mumofsend but I live in one of the constituencies that last year was lost to the Conservatives for the first time ever / in decades, so there is hope!

SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 13:50

@ana1s I agree with you

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Iamclearlyamug · 12/01/2022 13:51

I’m a homeless voter to be honest. I can’t say I agree with the way the Tories have done things, but since no other party can seem to tell me what the definition of a woman is, they’re too stupid to get my vote either 🤷‍♀️

SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 13:51

@Mumofsend and @SisyphusDad have you voted conservative in the past too?

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SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 13:53

@Iamclearlyamug fellow homeless voter! Another good point… no other party seems to be able to say what they really want, except the SNP (for whom I hold just as much regard as they hold for anyone south of the border tbf)

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ilovesooty · 12/01/2022 13:55

@Iamclearlyamug

I’m a homeless voter to be honest. I can’t say I agree with the way the Tories have done things, but since no other party can seem to tell me what the definition of a woman is, they’re too stupid to get my vote either 🤷‍♀️
Here we go...

Please do tell us how the ongoing welfare of women will be effectively addressed under a continuation of the Conservative government...

iheartredsquirrels · 12/01/2022 13:56

Life long conservative sitting on the fence, labour are an equal shit shower so def. no way. but there is no alternative that is remotely grabbing me either.

Crankley · 12/01/2022 13:58

I can't vote YABU or YANBU because I DO want to vote for the Conservatives and WILL vote for them.

CorrBlimeyGG · 12/01/2022 13:58

Which Corbyn policies do you have an issue with?

broccolibush · 12/01/2022 13:58

I voted conservative for most of my life but haven’t since the Brexit referendum. I voted Lib Dem in 2017 but they have said they don’t want the votes of women like me (who know what a woman is) so have spoiled my ballot since, aside from London Mayor where I voted for Count Binface which is effectively the same thing. I can’t vote for any of the parties now - I think Brexit is a ridiculous act of economic self harm, and the current Tory bunch are so dishonest it pains me to listen to them, and the rest of them are anti-women. So spoiling my ballot it is. Which feels a waste, but less of a waste than passively abstaining.

CorrBlimeyGG · 12/01/2022 14:00

Rightly or wrongly, she comes across to me as being too aggressively against people who have made a success of their lives —there, I said it— !!

AKA Women really should know their place?

(She has made a success of her life. The people she takes issue with are those that profit at the expense of others.)

Earlydancing · 12/01/2022 14:00

I'm a bit of a floater. I'm really unhappy about most of these Downing St parties, office quiz I couldn't give a toss about. But ultimately it wouldn't stop me voting Tory if I thought they were the best party at the time. Same as I wouldn't refuse to vote Labour because I didn't agree with how Blair handled the Iraq war. I don't judge how to vote over single incidents like this. I look at a much bigger picture of what parties are offering for the future and how realistic it is. I don't find Starmer in any way inspiring but I will consider voting for him, although I've read recently about a lot of promises he's making about spending plans. With the debt we already have, plans to carry on spending makes me nervous. So I will look closely at them all before I vote. Voting for some of the smaller parties seem a waste of my vote really.

Chanel05 · 12/01/2022 14:00

I'm afraid at this point I'll be spoiling my ballot.

SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 14:01

@CorrBlimeyGG not going down those rabbit holes

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CorrBlimeyGG · 12/01/2022 14:01

the current Tory bunch are so dishonest it pains me to listen to them, and the rest of them are anti-women.

The policy that has had the greatest negative impact on women is austerity. Tell us how the Conservatives are not anti women?

CorrBlimeyGG · 12/01/2022 14:02

not going down those rabbit holes

Ignoring anything that doesn't suit your viewpoint. How familiar.

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 12/01/2022 14:04

I wouldn’t have ever voted conservative myself as I feel they (the politicians, not Tory voters) look down on ordinary people who haven’t been able to better themselves and they seem completely detached from the reality of working class peoples lives, but I totally get where you’re coming from not wanting to vote Labour. I’ve always voted Labour in the past but I agree with you that people like Angela Raynor etc have a chip on their shoulder about people who have made a financial success of things and I think the left as a whole these days are more authoritarian, judgemental and divisive than the right.
Plus, women’s rights would be decimated under Labour. I honestly don’t think I can use my vote for the first time in my life and that goes against everything I believe in Sad

SonicBroom · 12/01/2022 14:05

@CorrBlimeyGG not ignoring, but I said pls don’t derail the thread and you’re detailing it. Start another one if you’d like to but that’s not what I came here to talk about. I’m specifically asking former conservative voters whether they’d vote Labour now

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FireworkParrot · 12/01/2022 14:05

I'm broadly conservative in my values and have mainly voted Conservative in the past, I've also voted Lib Dem in previous elections. I have no idea who I would vote for but this party in the Downing Street garden is the final nail in Boris Johnson's coffin for me. I'm furious about it, we lost two family members in 2020 and didn't get to see them before they died, I didn't even get to attend one of their funerals as we were "following the rules" and now I feel like an idiot. It's time I can never, ever get back and Boris's reaction today at PMQs has made me even more angry to be honest. I'll never again be able to vote Conservative with Boris at the helm and think the Tory party need to get him out, quick. In fact I'll be writing to my local Tory MP about it.

For all of Keir Starmer's faults, and I will think he has many he at least seems to have some principles.

lonelyapple · 12/01/2022 14:05

I won't be voting. Whoever you vote for you get the same globalist product. I don't think there is much difference between any of the parties in reality.

CorrBlimeyGG · 12/01/2022 14:06

The impact of austerity on women. No genuine feminist would vote for such harmful policies.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06758/#fullreport

madisonbridges · 12/01/2022 14:07

This is an interesting thread looking how people decide how to vote. It's possible that certain people in political parties will put people off voting for them. That's a genuine reason. Would it be possible not to derail the thread with posters getting defensive of the party they support. Otherwise it'll just become like the hundreds of other threads on here.

Moppiehen · 12/01/2022 14:07

I voted Lib Dem’s last time as the only pro-European party. That’s the most pressing issue for me.
I like Keir Starmer and would consider voting Labour if they changed their Brexit stance but that looks unlikely.

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