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To think this isn’t fat shaming?

99 replies

RedCandyApple · 10/01/2022 17:53

I was reading this about a woman’s dress that apparently “fell to pieces” on a night out says she was fat shamed when she complained to the company and they told her she should have “sized up” aibu to think this is not fat shaming?

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/woman-fumes-75-dress-falls-25880168?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=star_main&fbclid=IwAR2ECpS7prl2UptnYVPQaLDXdVw2NeREDtMx6X1SuVn_kNL97lZx4IJQTSw

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BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 10/01/2022 21:23

That dress looks piss poor quality, not surprising it fell apart.

RedCandyApple · 10/01/2022 21:26

Ohh that article is much more telling! She herself claimed
To have ordered a “large”’so she would have known the medium wouldn’t fit , only they don’t do it in large 🤦🏻

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5128gap · 10/01/2022 21:34

Liverpool must be a very different place to the last time I was there if no one would help her cover up. Shivering without a coat waiting for a taxi, a man took off his shirt for me. I find it hard to believe not one person did the same, even if only to play the hero. Or that none of the police officers that are in the city centre assisted. I think it was an unfortunate situation but milked to the maximum for attention and 5 minutes of fame.

ineedsun · 10/01/2022 21:36

I don’t think I understand what fat shaming is, judging by this thread

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/01/2022 21:38

I really don't understand how a company saying you should have bought a bigger size is fat shaming. I ordered a top in a small the other day then worried it would be too small. I messaged the company and they recommended a medium when I told them my size. It's absolutely not fat shaming.

BertramLacey · 10/01/2022 21:40

The young woman & her friend expect everyone to believe that they went out in December in just their clubwear, with no coats?

You've never been out on the town north of Watford, have you? Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds. Not a coat in sight.

Or any friends/staff who could lend a coat? Or money for a cab home?

Yes, you might expect someone to have something she could borrow. (Though not necessarily a coat, see above).

Doesn't look like the dress covers much anyway. sorelleuk.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/tia-chainmail-dress-gunmetal

EightWheelGirl · 10/01/2022 21:44

Are you Southern by any chance?
Totally normal for Northern girls to go out to bars and clubs in the depths of winter without coats.

Regular consumption of chip butties can defo add a protective layer of insulation.

suzy2b · 10/01/2022 21:49

@ChargingBuck

Publicity-seeking bullshit.

The young woman & her friend expect everyone to believe that they went out in December in just their clubwear, with no coats? Or any friends/staff who could lend a coat? Or money for a cab home?

I call hogwash.

If you look at a lot of younger girls especially from the north you will see that they very often do not have coats on
SortMyHouse · 10/01/2022 21:50

Agree, she's larger than the size she's claiming to be unless it's one of those shops that lie about their dress sizes to make people feel better!
That dress was too tight, probably only fitted standing straight.
Normal movement and it gave way.

Bootskates · 10/01/2022 21:58

Not fat shaming but not great customer services either.

If I was her friend I would have told her to stay in a toilet cubicle wrapped in the dress and legged it to the hotel to grab her something to walk back in. Don't understand why nobody helped her on the night.

TitsInAbsentia · 10/01/2022 22:02

@Westfacing

No matter how tight a dress is it surely shouldn't just fall apart!
as per the link posted earlier there is so little of it actually joined together it would only take one wayward arm to dislodge the whole lot! sorelleuk.com/products/tia-chainmail-dress-silver
salsmum · 11/01/2022 03:30

It couldn't be that the young lady has worn it for NY eve got perfume and/or makeup on it and decided she may have to wait a good while to wear it again so wanted to return it and get her £75 back?? Just saying 😉

SirYawnsAlot · 11/01/2022 05:13

Azpil

She is clearly overweight and not a size 12.

The dress was also poor quality.

^
No, she is not clearly overweight. I imagine she may be size 14 because of her curves. The dress is too small and looks to be splitting up the sides on her 'before' picture which should have been a warning sign. The dress probably doesn't have any give being chainmail and has split on the weave in different directions as it is a tight fit which does indicate poor quality.
If the construction was better, she wouldn't have been able to get it on in the first place, or it would have split immediately up the side or the weakest point, not in a patchwork.

Goatinthegarden · 11/01/2022 06:23

I forced myself into some too-small skinny jeans about a decade ago (and thought I looked wonderful) and they burst all down the inner crotch when I was marching home one day.

They were reasonable quality, but also too small for me. I wasn’t fat and it’s not fat shaming to say they were too small. I had simply bought jeans that were designed for someone with a smaller thigh diameter than I had.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/01/2022 06:43

Not fat shaming but the woman who owns this company is absolutely tiny (I've seen her on instagram) so the sizes are probably based on her, I wouldn't buy anything from there because it probably wouldn't fit right.

She's very wealthy as well so probably using cheap labour/materials to make money from overpriced clothes. That's fast fashion for you.

ArblemarchTFruitbat · 11/01/2022 07:23

The dress was poor quality.

I once foolishly forced myself into a dress that I'd got too fat for. It split down a side seam - it didn't fall apart.

PegasusReturns · 11/01/2022 07:33

The dress is way too tight.

It’s some sort of chain mail that is supposed to hang and drape.

AndiPetersblender · 11/01/2022 07:48

Everyone is missing the point that this article is unfortunately just wank fodder. That was that purpose of the article, its the news equivalent of Barbara Windsor in Carry on Camping. Some men love the idea of women being accidentally revealed, adds to the power I guess.

Blackbird1234 · 11/01/2022 08:50

I don't know if she went to the press herself or not, but I don't think it's fair to assume that she did. She could've easily posted her experience/complaint on twitter/Facebook etc and the media took the photos/stories from there, it happens a lot.
I do think the company is in the wrong if a 10-12 is the largest size they carry and I don't doubt she thought she got the right size, I'm small/petite and I have clothes in my wardrobe from size 4 to 16 that all fit, it's so difficult to tell your size nowadays 😂

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 11/01/2022 09:06

@AndiPetersblender

Everyone is missing the point that this article is unfortunately just wank fodder. That was that purpose of the article, its the news equivalent of Barbara Windsor in Carry on Camping. Some men love the idea of women being accidentally revealed, adds to the power I guess.
You’re not wrong there, it feeds into the voyeuristic, exposure fantasies of certain men.
BertramLacey · 11/01/2022 09:09

Everyone is missing the point that this article is unfortunately just wank fodder.

Well obviously it's wank fodder. Young, attractive woman falls out of slightly too small dress. Yes, it's cheap, bad porn. It may or may not also be fat shaming. That bit is less obvious.

TheOrigRights · 11/01/2022 09:17

She doesn't look like a size 10/12 in the last photo.
And naked means nothing, she was covered, albeit not very well!

Tomnooktoldmeto · 11/01/2022 09:17

This is our local paper so I read the first lot of comments before they got taken down and the second lot of heavily sensored comments

If you look at the pictures of the model wearing the dress and then the young lady in question there is no doubt that she’s wearing a dress that’s a minimum of 2 sizes too small

She was determined to get her money back even though it ripped because of sizing and was very aggressive in her approach threatened to run a negative story (which she did) to bully them into complying and then threw in the victim card in a highly manipulative way

When the first 84 comments didn’t go her way they mysteriously disappeared, which normally happens if the person written about threatens the paper, after that comments were heavily sensored even quite balanced ones

Personally I’m fed up of seeing people try and cancel others including businesses who have done no wrong from what I can see
( that dress was too small) and then playing victim to get their own way. Generation snowflake at its best

IcyBlonde15 · 11/01/2022 09:23

I am appalled at this. I am a slim size 8 and had a satin shirt from an online company just disentrgrate while wearing it. I would have been horriefied if it had been suggested it was because I should have sized up. However. Some shops have ridiculously small sizing (oh polly, Zara,) and sometimes I know better than to try and squeeze myself into one of their child size items and buy a 12 or medium. You do just have to use your own judgement if something will fit you

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