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To ask you to blow smoke up my (lumpy) arse - 5 year fight for surgery is happening next week!

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AsYouWishButtercup · 06/01/2022 19:26

TMI alert

5 years ago I had DS, and I whilst I got a gorgeous little boy I also got haemorrhoids. A lot of them. I was told they would go away by themselves. They didn’t and after a few months of tolerating painful and very large piles I went to the GP.

Since then it’s been a bloody nightmare. Initially fobbed off as “They’ll go away on their own”. I was also told haemorrhoids didn’t hurt (ha!), that if I just changed my diet they’d pop back up, that if I bathed in witch hazel they’d disappear etc. by the time DS was 18 months old not only were the old ones there but I’d grown new ones.

Was referred to colorectal unit. Who attempted to push them back up (they came out again two minutes later), had some VERY painful bandying done 3 times where essentially I was sodomised with a machine that put a rubber band by the base of them and in theory they’d drop off. They didn’t. By the time DS was 3, I was told they were prolapsed, and essentially dead, which is why bandying didn’t work. I was told the only option was surgery - which the colorectal surgeon wasn’t willing to do because “you can live with heamorrhoids, to give you surgery would be like giving someone a nose job on the NHS”.

At this point, they’re still painful, bleeding all the time, going to the toilet is a nightmare as it’s painful and VERY messy. Again I was told haemorrhoids shouldn’t be painful and was I not exaggerating? I was told women have many side affects of child birth and that’s how the cookie crumbles. I was told that maybe if I changed the diet (I’d already changed it) and took my time on the toilet maybe they’d go back in (despite being essentially ‘dead’).

I fought so hard for a new colorectal consultant. I said I’m in pain all the time, this is not a normal child birth injury and I’m being gaslighted, ignored and told to put up with it because apparently all they think I’m interested in is having an arsehole that looks pretty. I made angry phone calls, wrote letters, complaints, the lot. My lovely new consultant said he’d recommend me for surgery - wahey!! But he also said that he’d have to apply for funding and make a REALLY good case as apparently postnatal (5 years!) haemorrhoid removal - even when the patient is in pain - is indeed considered ‘cosmetic surgery’.

Have been on a waiting list since last summer, I was written to over Christmas to ask if I still wanted the surgery (a generic letter that presumably went to all patients on waiting lists). I replied yes but took it as a sign that I’d be spending years again wincing as I sit or sneakily trying to hide my rubber ring at work.

Got the call today - they have a cancellation and I’m going in next week - I’m so happy!!! FINALLY I can sit down pain free. I’m so accustomed to lying now rather than sitting, standing eating my food and trying to avoid places like cinemas that I can’t believe I can have a normal life again!

I think us women should generally be more self congratulatory, and so I’m really proud of myself for fighting for this, not giving up and not being afraid to look like a ‘Karen’ (bleurgh hate that term) and knowing that I deserve to not be in pain!

We all know there’s an enormous gap in women’s healthcare, not least proven by the fact a male colleague had similar surgery after just six months (apparently this was affecting his quality of life - which I’m sure it was but FFS be consistent). Women are sadly seen as vessels to grow babies, and once the baby growing is done, if the vessel is broken, ah well it’s done it’s job. The message the last 5 years is “oh it’s because you had a baby” like it’s a catch-all reason to deny appropriate healthcare. Like I should be so elated to be a mother that I shouldn’t bother them with problems such as being in pain.

So please feel free to blow smoke up my lumpy (soon to be liberated) bottom as I’m feeling pretty damn chuffed in a world where there’s not much to feel chuffed about!

OP posts:
JanBabiesBrummyMummy · 06/01/2022 19:31

You are a fucking trooper, well done you and I hope the surgery gives you everything you want

PotteringAlong · 06/01/2022 19:33

Amazing Flowers

NatalHeart · 06/01/2022 19:35

I hope you get to enjoy shitting normally again very soon. It is extremely underated.

Grin
gggrrrargh · 06/01/2022 19:36

Whoop!!!! Very well done you (although as you say it shouldn’t have to be this way)

Looking forward to the updates after surgery!

iloveorange · 06/01/2022 19:36

Your story is mind-blowing. I don't know why on Earth they would insist they are not painful, not only because YOU were telling them that you were in pain, but also because EVERYONE KNOWS that piles are literally a pain in the ass.

It's a miracle I've never developed them given my 15 year history of 'unexplainable' constipation (finally diagnosed with an actual anatomical problem, thank God) but I'm scared I will get them after my current pregnancy.

Well done for fighting your case - I never thought I'd say this but you deserve this surgery.

Duckduckduck123 · 06/01/2022 19:36

Yay Flowers

Waffle · 06/01/2022 19:38

Well done for keeping fighting! Good luck next week, you will be a different person afterwards!

My hip was injured by the consultant when I was giving birth to my daughter, it took three years of pain and fighting before they gave me an operation to fix it. I was like you, they tried to fob me off with the "o, that's just childbirth, be grateful you have a healthy baby."

I was grateful to have a healthy baby. But the ability to walk to push her in the pram and sit on the floor during baby classes with her would have been nice. Health care for women is shit.

Anyway! Good luck for next week!

Rosemaryandlemon · 06/01/2022 19:41

OP I am so happy for you, but also so angry that you've had to go through this.

Blossomtoes · 06/01/2022 19:42

Well done you @AsYouWishButtercup. It’s an absolute outrage that it took so long and you had to fight so hard.

Normski67 · 06/01/2022 19:43

Well done!! Really hope it goes well for you and you have a good recovery.
It’s so unfair that you had to go through this, it’s made me angry that you had to be so persistant to get the treat you deserve.

gogohm · 06/01/2022 19:44

Hope all goes well, dp had this surgery last summer (health insurance paid) and it wasn't as severe as yours sound too start with. They are far from cosmetic, his randomly bled whilst out and about, he had to wear pads prior.

TolkiensFallow · 06/01/2022 19:47

I swear If this happened to men postnatally they’d get the op double fast.

I’m sorry this happened to you.

BeetyAxe · 06/01/2022 19:48

Well done you👏👏disgraceful how women are treated medically and especially regarding piles. Best of luck with your surgery.

MsSquishy · 06/01/2022 20:20

So sorry you had to go through all this but excellent news Flowers

QuiltedHippo · 06/01/2022 20:24

Well done you! You're a star for advocating for yourself, you deserve this. And I agree with everything you've said.

Now, stay away from everyone so you don't get bloody covid the day before

Hapoydayz · 06/01/2022 20:29

Well done for keeping pushing to get the medical care you need and should have. It is disgusting you were left in pain for so long. Medical care for women is shit. I don't believe men would be left like this. You must be so happy. Hope it all goes well and you have your life back in no time

Porcupineintherough · 06/01/2022 20:33

Good for you. Haemorrhoids arent painful- wtf?
My mum had this surgery following my birth 50 years ago and she still occasionallytalks about how painful it was. Luckily banding worked for me.

AuldFox · 06/01/2022 20:33

Outstanding work!
Hope everything goes well for you next week and the arse is finally liberated.

Purplepeoniesdroppingpetals · 06/01/2022 20:43

So pleased for you. Good luck and a swift recovery.

guestusername · 06/01/2022 20:45

Please don’t go into this with the expectation that you’re going to go home pain free - it could be a good couple of weeks before you’re completely pain free and free pooping but it will happen. Your first couple of poos will hurt. Consider it the beginning of the end 😀

Good luck 😀

WinterDeWinter · 06/01/2022 20:46

It's institutional misogyny - fucking outrageous. I'm so glad you've got the op, erm, Op, but it's horrendous what you've been through. If you have the energy you could make a final complaint making misogyny the central plank of it - more likely to be taken seriously than all these hundreds and hundreds of 'one-offs' which happen to be women.

MintyGreenDream · 06/01/2022 20:49

Yay so glad your getting rid of your pain in the arse!

JuergenSchwarzwald · 06/01/2022 20:50

Good luck OP. As a pp said, it might take a few weeks to get right but it will be worth it after your long wait.

Flowers
CounsellorTroi · 06/01/2022 20:50

Well done you 💐

TurquoiseDress · 06/01/2022 20:53

Wow!

Well done for fighting your corner, so sorry it's taken this long to get to surgery Thanks

Unbelievable how you were fobbed off over the past 5 years!