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To ask you to blow smoke up my (lumpy) arse - 5 year fight for surgery is happening next week!

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AsYouWishButtercup · 06/01/2022 19:26

TMI alert

5 years ago I had DS, and I whilst I got a gorgeous little boy I also got haemorrhoids. A lot of them. I was told they would go away by themselves. They didn’t and after a few months of tolerating painful and very large piles I went to the GP.

Since then it’s been a bloody nightmare. Initially fobbed off as “They’ll go away on their own”. I was also told haemorrhoids didn’t hurt (ha!), that if I just changed my diet they’d pop back up, that if I bathed in witch hazel they’d disappear etc. by the time DS was 18 months old not only were the old ones there but I’d grown new ones.

Was referred to colorectal unit. Who attempted to push them back up (they came out again two minutes later), had some VERY painful bandying done 3 times where essentially I was sodomised with a machine that put a rubber band by the base of them and in theory they’d drop off. They didn’t. By the time DS was 3, I was told they were prolapsed, and essentially dead, which is why bandying didn’t work. I was told the only option was surgery - which the colorectal surgeon wasn’t willing to do because “you can live with heamorrhoids, to give you surgery would be like giving someone a nose job on the NHS”.

At this point, they’re still painful, bleeding all the time, going to the toilet is a nightmare as it’s painful and VERY messy. Again I was told haemorrhoids shouldn’t be painful and was I not exaggerating? I was told women have many side affects of child birth and that’s how the cookie crumbles. I was told that maybe if I changed the diet (I’d already changed it) and took my time on the toilet maybe they’d go back in (despite being essentially ‘dead’).

I fought so hard for a new colorectal consultant. I said I’m in pain all the time, this is not a normal child birth injury and I’m being gaslighted, ignored and told to put up with it because apparently all they think I’m interested in is having an arsehole that looks pretty. I made angry phone calls, wrote letters, complaints, the lot. My lovely new consultant said he’d recommend me for surgery - wahey!! But he also said that he’d have to apply for funding and make a REALLY good case as apparently postnatal (5 years!) haemorrhoid removal - even when the patient is in pain - is indeed considered ‘cosmetic surgery’.

Have been on a waiting list since last summer, I was written to over Christmas to ask if I still wanted the surgery (a generic letter that presumably went to all patients on waiting lists). I replied yes but took it as a sign that I’d be spending years again wincing as I sit or sneakily trying to hide my rubber ring at work.

Got the call today - they have a cancellation and I’m going in next week - I’m so happy!!! FINALLY I can sit down pain free. I’m so accustomed to lying now rather than sitting, standing eating my food and trying to avoid places like cinemas that I can’t believe I can have a normal life again!

I think us women should generally be more self congratulatory, and so I’m really proud of myself for fighting for this, not giving up and not being afraid to look like a ‘Karen’ (bleurgh hate that term) and knowing that I deserve to not be in pain!

We all know there’s an enormous gap in women’s healthcare, not least proven by the fact a male colleague had similar surgery after just six months (apparently this was affecting his quality of life - which I’m sure it was but FFS be consistent). Women are sadly seen as vessels to grow babies, and once the baby growing is done, if the vessel is broken, ah well it’s done it’s job. The message the last 5 years is “oh it’s because you had a baby” like it’s a catch-all reason to deny appropriate healthcare. Like I should be so elated to be a mother that I shouldn’t bother them with problems such as being in pain.

So please feel free to blow smoke up my lumpy (soon to be liberated) bottom as I’m feeling pretty damn chuffed in a world where there’s not much to feel chuffed about!

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Muchtoomuchtodo · 06/01/2022 20:58

Fantastic!
There’s no way you should have had to go through so much to get this far but well done for persevering.
I really hope the surgery goes well. Recovery can be tough, but after what you’ve put up with for the past 5 years I’m sure you’ll cope just fine.
Please come back post-op to let us know how you’re getting on xx

LakieLady · 06/01/2022 20:59

Fan-fucking-tastic!

I hope your new, perfect arsehole is everything you hope it will be and that it brings you joy.

Happy crapping! Grin

BrilloSolar · 06/01/2022 21:01

Oh I'm so happy for you. And well done for pushing for so long when so many wouldn't have had the energy after being hit with such barriers.

After my second birth, I sat down for a wee and braced myself for that horrific stinging. But I felt nothing. Ah, it must be the pain relief the midwife popped up my arse. But no, my second, third, forth wee were all pain free. Hurrah! I cheered that I had somehow got away with that hideous pain this time around. And then the hemaroid came. OH. MY. GOD. It was HUGE and horrifically painful. Thankfully cream worked for me over a few weeks. I just can't imagine living with the pain for as long as you have. I'm so glad you will soon be living a different life. And when you think about the complex operations that the NHS carry out every day, it really wasn't a big ask all that time was it?

RagzReturnedUnwrapped · 06/01/2022 21:07

Very happy for you OP. Awful that you had to fight so hard though. DH has similar piles though not from birth, obviously. He had failed banding twice. We begged for the 2nd to be done under general as he nearly passed out the 1st time and was terrified of the pain. He ended up in A&E following the 2nd as the pain was so bad...

They actively encouraged him to have full surgery! Which he refused, because he's scared of the recovery so now he just lives with them. But still, I wonder if it's because he is a man that they were quite happy to do surgery on him and in fact seemed to want to!

AsYouWishButtercup · 06/01/2022 22:20

Thank you all! And so sorry for those of you who have suffered, or continue to suffer, due to misogyny in the NHS.

Recovery definitely won’t be easy - they are giving me a special rubber ring and I have to take pain killers and laxatives for 2 weeks Blush actually this was a reason my first consultant used for me not to have the surgery - “It is two weeks of being in pain”. FFS I’ve spent years in pain PLEASE make it just 2 weeks

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JumperooSue · 06/01/2022 22:31

This is amazing news👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 06/01/2022 22:38

congratulations!

thetinsoldier · 06/01/2022 22:44

Ffs, I can't believe this lack of equality.
I hope your op goes ahead and is successful!!

RavingAnnie · 06/01/2022 22:47

It's fucking horrendous that you've had to fight so hard for this (and I am struggling to understand how they can't know that piles are fucking excruciating wtf!?!).

Apparently the pain after the op is pretty horrendous but temporary and then you should hopefully have a pain free bum. Will keep everything crossed for you that it goes well and the pain resolved quickly.

Good luck!

cherish123 · 06/01/2022 22:54

Great news. You sound in such pain. I can't believe you were fobbed off. This is not a normal consequence of childbirth. Good luck with your surgery.

threecupsofteaminimum · 06/01/2022 23:29

I'm livid you had to go through years of pain first but I am so happy for you!! Ya yay you Smile

theNumbersStation · 06/01/2022 23:38

Cosmetic surgery my arse.

I wish they would listen to people when they say they are in pain. It isn’t a figment of imagination. It isn’t an exaggeration. It is pure pain.

It doesn’t matter what it is. To leave someone in pain is awful.

Wishing you well OP.

AsYouWishButtercup · 07/01/2022 00:22

YY @theNumbersStation you hear so many stories about women being distrusted and not listened to - do they think we are lying, or just think we are being wimps, or brats?
On one appointment when I was told I could live with them I actually, against my strongest will, cried. But they were tears of anger but I was even angrier that this stupid man probably thought “Oh the silly woman is being all womanly and crying, emotional fool she is”

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PrincessNutella · 07/01/2022 04:48

I am proud of you and I am angry for you, too.

HollyBollyBooBoo · 07/01/2022 05:24

Wow, what a horrendous story. I'm so sorry you've gone through this. You will be prepared for the first week post op to be fucking horrific won't you in terms of pain. Make sure you get given good pain relief x

TheLoneRager · 07/01/2022 05:32

Well done OP, I'm shocked at the way you have been dismissed and how you have had to fight for this. I'm so pleased you finally have a date.

I also got haemorrhoids after my first DD - the price of two and a half hours hard pushing. They gradually got worse over the years and I had them banded once but it didn't help. When they started bleeding quite heavily I went back to the Dr and was referred for surgery straight away, no problem.

I had it done under the NHS at my local private hospital which was very nice. (Excellent sandwich and tea served nicely in a pot afterwards) and went home later the same day.

If they haven't advised you do preload the laxatives / all bran a couple of days before the op. I have to say, the first poop the next day was horrendous, I nearly fainted. I had a cocktail of pain killers and laxatives every day. But it does improve. I was initially signed off work for four weeks but had another two as I still needed time to be able to manage normal bowel motions. I had so much laxative that one day out walking the dog I had no option but to disappear into the bushes and hope no one came by as it's a popular dog walking area!
But I gradually cut down the laxatives and it all settled down.
It sounds ridiculous but three years on I still love my tight little a-hole! Getting that op was the best thing and I shouldn't have delayed it so long. (I'm a bit allergic to people poking up my bum and really put off doing anything about it because of this).

Fingers crossed for you that it all goes ahead as planned and isn't delayed because of Covid.

2TurtleDovesInARow · 07/01/2022 05:40

No one should be deprived the bliss of a pain free poo Flowers

Noonoo8589 · 07/01/2022 05:45

Well done op, I hope everything goes well!!

RantyAunty · 07/01/2022 06:08

Well done with your persistance. Happy to hear you are getting the surgery.

I'm gobsmacked at them saying it's cosmetic. wtf?

Adododoadahdahdah · 07/01/2022 06:12

Happy, Happy, Happy New Year to you! 🎉🙌🏻

I waited just over 5 years for a different op that has (after decades in pain) finally resulted in being pain free so I know how elated you are. You will be skipping down to the O.R 😊

KiloWhat · 07/01/2022 06:13

Nice one! Well done! I hope you recover quickly and are soon having pain free poops.

TheWitchersWife · 07/01/2022 06:21

Congratulations!
Well done for fighting!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Marchingredsoldiers · 07/01/2022 06:23

I can't believe your male colleague had the same operation after 6 months. But you had to fight for 5 years! Horrendous.

Fantastic news!!!

theNumbersStation · 07/01/2022 11:12

@AsYouWishButtercup

May next week go well. 🙂

Time for these to go
🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈

megletthesecond · 07/01/2022 11:16

Bless you. Hope the surgery goes well.

I had years of anal fissures thanks to a midwife refusing to prescribe stool softener after a c-section. Make everything miserable and painful for years. Finally had an op 4 years ago and was fine, but after a stressful November I think I've torn again. Yay.