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Staff not ‘boosted’ affecting whole team.

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Chanandlerbong1 · 06/01/2022 16:46

We are quite a large team and everyone except one has had their covid booster. She has had the first two vaccinations. Guidance has just been changed - so anyone who is a household contact can return to work if they meet certain conditions. Being boosted is one of them. She refuses to get the booster - unsure of her reasons - I haven’t asked as it’s none of my business. She has been off multiple times with symptoms and has taken multiple PCR tests - all of which have been negative. We all just roll our eyes now when we are told she is off again. Now they have been identified as a close contact - but will need to isolate as not boosted. We are stretched as it is and can’t help thinking less of this person! AIBU?

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hulahooper2 · 06/01/2022 20:08

Yanbu

Michellexxx · 06/01/2022 20:14

This happens at my work too and it is very annoying...obviously not the individuals 'fault' per se, but doesn't stop the extra work load being a pain..

Marmunia99 · 06/01/2022 20:14

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Ghislainedefeligonde · 06/01/2022 20:16

Yanbu, I’m in a v small team and one person hasn’t been boosted (for no good reason). This means they would have to self isolate if a household member positive or close contact. Potential for this to cause major issues is massive, in fact it has already nearly caused a huge problem with people having to cancel leave over Christmas. It’s infuriating!!

MrsJBaptiste · 06/01/2022 20:19

@Michellexxx

This happens at my work too and it is very annoying...obviously not the individuals 'fault' per se, but doesn't stop the extra work load being a pain..
Absolutely the individual's fault in my eyes. FFS.
Marmunia99 · 06/01/2022 20:19

I don't get it - I don't feel safe around triple vaxxed or 'boosted' people at all any more than I do the unvaxxed. I think the jab is giving a false sense of security.

When do the boosted get boosted further anyway?

fiftiesmum · 06/01/2022 20:22

Someone upthread mentioned that the AZ vaccine was inferior because it was cheap.

It is cheaper than the Pfizer vaccine because the initial development at Oxford and the clinical trials at NHS hospitals were paid for by the state ie taxpayers money and AZ covering the development and production at cost price. Pfizer are charging for this and are including a decent profit.
The effectiveness of the two are similar although you need to take into account it is mainly the older people and those who are clinically vulnerable would have had the AZ vaccine

Royalbloo · 06/01/2022 20:22

I've been asking my team for a photo of the positive test. Sad times but we found out if you put orange juice on the test, it comes back positive.

lightisnotwhite · 06/01/2022 20:22

@IamaBluebird

People are taking time off and they’ve had the booster do you get just as annoyed at them.
Yes if they are taking the piss.

Worth remembering a lot of unvaxxed and unbooster remain well and turn up for work.

Onesnowynight · 06/01/2022 20:24

You are not being unreasonable at all OP

Endoftether2000 · 06/01/2022 20:26

YANBU if a person has chosen not to be vaccinated and has to isolate it is their choice. Do you have to prove you have been boosted at work? This person may of had the booster 3rd jab and not admitted it to get additional paid time off. There is a person out our place of work that had 1st vaccine and just can't be a**sed to book his second. He has been in paid isolation on and off since October so agree tad annoying.

rrhuth · 06/01/2022 20:27

@tttigress

YABU, what has anyone's medical information got to do with you?
I agree with this.
rrhuth · 06/01/2022 20:28

@Royalbloo

I've been asking my team for a photo of the positive test. Sad times but we found out if you put orange juice on the test, it comes back positive.
What is the point of asking given the test can be faked anyway?
LidlMiddleLover · 06/01/2022 20:29

S/he is selfish and attention seeking just like any other person who fakes sick for time off The law is just helping her out

ShinyHappyPoster · 06/01/2022 20:31

@Chanandlerbong1

You don’t have to prove that you have symptoms. Harsh of me, but yes I think these episodes have been faked. It’s really hard to work with someone who is so blatantly selfish. I would be mortified if I was her.
You may want to read your last paragraph again. Your colleague could say the exact same about you but added to selfishness is indiscretion. You should be 'mortified'.
Marmunia99 · 06/01/2022 20:33

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WaltzingTilda · 06/01/2022 20:34

No-one can force anyone to take a jab. It's her right to refuse the booster or even the vaccinations if she wanted to. She didn't make the rules and she is following them, so you can roll your eyes till the cows come home if you like, i am sure she couldn't care less.

Subbaxeo · 06/01/2022 20:36

At my place, Multiple Covid absences don’t count so they don’t get counted towards sickness absence-so some piss takers are also going off sick with other things on full pay then surprise, surprise when their sick pay finishes they’re miraculously better. One of the malingerers had the cheek to isolate for 2 weeks after seeing her pet sitter for 5 minutes so she was a ‘close contact’. It really affects morale in the team as the work doesn’t wait for their return-the rest of us have to take on their workload. I’m public sector and I can’t imagine they’d get away with this in the private sector. It really grinds my gears.

FunkyPhantom · 06/01/2022 20:39

@Marmunia99

Agree ShinyHappyPoster.

The 'vaccinated' and 'boosted to the hilt' think they are the absolute dog's bollocks. It happens to be the healthy unvaxxed out there mopping up the work while the boosted isolate because they've just caught Covid.

Being double vaccinated, boosted, flu jabbed is the new equivalent to wearing hi-vis and having a fancy badge 👍
Summersdreaming · 06/01/2022 20:43

Wait, double jabbed people have to isolate if they are a close contact?? I've missed this. In the UK?

Insanelysilver · 06/01/2022 20:44

If we need to be boosted to be fully covered and people are refusing the boosters, they aren’t fully vaccinated now so
Yes I guess they will.

Endoftether2000 · 06/01/2022 20:46

I believe from people that work in one of the worst hit Healthcare Trusts that have declared crisis are dealing with young, unvaccinated cases in the intensive care wards. The vaccine aids the building of immunity so that if you catch the virus, you have a greater chance of not being Critically ill. I consider it being similar now to being given the MMR jabs when you are a young child . These vaccinations aim to eradicate such illnesses. Marmunia99 would you stop your child in having the HPV vaccine as it is showing to help in eradicating cervical cancer? TB and smallpox vaccine programmes in our day eradicated these virusus so they no longer were considered a risk so not essential. It just so happens that you are born in a time frame where a vaccination programme had to be implemented and have maybe not been there in a time frame of the effects of some of these historic illnesses.

bluetongue · 06/01/2022 20:46

I get it. Our workplace serial sick leave taker has also had multiple days off after getting numerous PCR tests. She’s run out of normal sick leave but we get extra ‘Covid leave’ every time we get a PCR test and have to isolate while waiting for results.

Walking4You · 06/01/2022 20:51

@Endoftether2000

I believe from people that work in one of the worst hit Healthcare Trusts that have declared crisis are dealing with young, unvaccinated cases in the intensive care wards. The vaccine aids the building of immunity so that if you catch the virus, you have a greater chance of not being Critically ill. I consider it being similar now to being given the MMR jabs when you are a young child . These vaccinations aim to eradicate such illnesses. Marmunia99 would you stop your child in having the HPV vaccine as it is showing to help in eradicating cervical cancer? TB and smallpox vaccine programmes in our day eradicated these virusus so they no longer were considered a risk so not essential. It just so happens that you are born in a time frame where a vaccination programme had to be implemented and have maybe not been there in a time frame of the effects of some of these historic illnesses.
But the covid vaccine is nothing like the MMR, TB or the polio vaccine.

The MMR etc.. helped eradicating 3 illnesses. The covid vaccine does NOT.
It only works for a very short time and doesn’t protect for all variants. In that respect it’s a similar vaccine to the flu, which we still have every year. Except it’s nowhere near as good because it doesn’t even last last the whole of winter (assuming this is peak season?).

So yes this vaccine is doing some good (less deaths, healthcare system not AS overwhelmed etc…) but let’s not give it powers it doesn’t have.

Montecristocount · 06/01/2022 20:53

I understand why the rules were brought in for unvaccinated people, government needed a nudge to convince people to get vaxxed. However it’s backfired as two weeks off work on full pay is a dream for most people. Rules need changing. I’d keep the travel rules different because it might convince some people to get jabbed this summer but two weeks off work on full pay needs to go.