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Am I being unreasonable to expect my mom/family to minimise covid exposure in advance of hospital procedure

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AutumnDance · 05/01/2022 21:18

I live at home with my mom. Some people might have a perception that my mom does everything for me and that's norlt true. I work hard and I help at home and pay bills. I just can't afford my own roof over my head.

All throughout the pandemic I took it seriously to protect both me and her. I still had to go out to work but aside from that I followed all of the guidelines on public health. Signs by, we never got covid. We are boosted now too.

None of that is an issue here. I was just giving a brief background.

I don't live in the UK. I don't know what the public health guidelines are in the UK but where I am from there are guidelines about close contacts and family contacts. If a member of the household becomes symptomatic or tests positive, the whole household needs to isolate. This is in order to reduce transmissions in case you become infectious.

So far we have escaped covid.

My mom is retired. She gets bored easily and her own social outing is when she goes to town about once a week. She doesn't drive so she goes on a bus.

I don't have an issue with this except now there is something coming up. With the new variant it's supposed to be more transmissible. I see a full bus of people as an exposure risk. My mom is someone who is aging. She is 70 and she never got used to wearing masks. She hates them and she refuses to cover her nose with a mask. She can breathe more easily when it's not on her nose. So I think taking this into consideration, she's more at risk for contracting an infection.

I was sick last summer. My GP referred me to the hospital for a test. I was on a waiting list. I received an appointment and it's one week away. I'm doing everything I can to avoid covid, now more than ever. I don't want to become symptomatic. I don't want to can't my appointment. If it happens, so be it.

Am I being unreasonable to expect my mom to minimise a covid exposure for now because I have a hospital appointment coming up next week?
Just until this appointment is out of the way? So covid doesn't come into the household for another week, at least.
Especially considering a trip to town is just to pass some time because she's bored. Can she find another way to pass the time so that she's not bored by going for a walk or any other activity that is local and less risk of exposure.

I'm disappointed in that, she's not thinking about anyone else but herself. If she becomes exposed and contracts the virus within the next week, then my appointment is jeopardised. If covid gets into the household within the next week - what then - I get pushed back to the end of the queue for another few more months? It's hardly fair.

Does all of that make sense?

Am is being unreasonable to expect her to settle down for a week to minimise a covid exposure. She doesn't have to lock herself away in her room or in the house to avoid the world. We have so much lovely activities in our own local village. So many other safe-ish activities for her to do.

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Speakuptomakeyourselfheard · 05/01/2022 23:41

I think your mother is being very selfish OP. Can you sit her down and tell her how frightened you are that she might be right and that it could be bowel cancer, therefore it's VERY important to you that the appointment is able to go ahead. Tell her that you respect that she gets lonely or whatever, and needs to go out, but that it's only a week, and perhaps during that time instead of going on the bus, or going into the shops she could do (make a suggestion or several) instead. Repeat how frightened you are until she understands, ask her how she would feel if the situation were reversed and you refused to stop going out in order to protect her? I think you're going to need to be really firm with her on this occasion, even point out to her that if it is cancer and you end up unable to attend the appointment you could DIE! Hopefully this will get through to her. In the meantime I wish you well and hope that the appointment goes ahead and the results are nothing to worry about.

Wreath21 · 05/01/2022 23:51

You need to isolate from your mother rather than demanding she give up living her life for your benefit. It's not up to you to decide which aspects of her life are 'essential', particularly as your appointment is for a minor matter.

Emerald5hamrock · 05/01/2022 23:59

Yanbu.
I understand people have had enough of restrictions but it's extremely hard to avoid Covid19 ATT.
Our home was locked down all December with the close contact restrictions, it went from one to the other every 8 days. Angry

Emerald5hamrock · 06/01/2022 00:00

Echoing others you need to isolate and wear a mask in the home.

GlitterNails · 06/01/2022 00:51

Wreath21 how an earth do you know it's a minor matter?

CharlotteRose90 · 06/01/2022 01:05

@Wreath21

You need to isolate from your mother rather than demanding she give up living her life for your benefit. It's not up to you to decide which aspects of her life are 'essential', particularly as your appointment is for a minor matter.
Clearly you have never been tested for Bowel cancer or in any case cancer. It is not minor you nasty woman.

Op please don’t listen to her. Isolate from your mother the best you can. Also try not to stress before the procedure. Your mum is being selfish to you and also everyone around her not wearing a mask properly.

QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat · 06/01/2022 01:13

Do you drive OP? Can't you say that you'll take her in the car over the weekend or next week to avoid the bus?

AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 03:39

@QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat

Do you drive OP? Can't you say that you'll take her in the car over the weekend or next week to avoid the bus?
I don't have a car unfortunately. If I had a car I would chauffeur her.
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AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 03:43

Me and my partner don't live together. I'm even avoiding him for the next week in case he is infectious. All of his family has colds right now. I am aware that covid can be like a cold for some people. You don't see me running over there picking up an infection. I'm really trying my best to be as safe as possible.

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AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 03:45

@Emerald5hamrock

Yanbu. I understand people have had enough of restrictions but it's extremely hard to avoid Covid19 ATT. Our home was locked down all December with the close contact restrictions, it went from one to the other every 8 days. Angry
I'm so sorry to hear that. That must be very difficult.
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AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 03:54

@Speakuptomakeyourselfheard

I think your mother is being very selfish OP. Can you sit her down and tell her how frightened you are that she might be right and that it could be bowel cancer, therefore it's VERY important to you that the appointment is able to go ahead. Tell her that you respect that she gets lonely or whatever, and needs to go out, but that it's only a week, and perhaps during that time instead of going on the bus, or going into the shops she could do (make a suggestion or several) instead. Repeat how frightened you are until she understands, ask her how she would feel if the situation were reversed and you refused to stop going out in order to protect her? I think you're going to need to be really firm with her on this occasion, even point out to her that if it is cancer and you end up unable to attend the appointment you could DIE! Hopefully this will get through to her. In the meantime I wish you well and hope that the appointment goes ahead and the results are nothing to worry about.
There's definitely some issue going on with my guts. I feel pain sometimes and last summer I was spiking fevers. It was thought to be a uti originally but now my GP thinks it's colon or bowel related.

Since the referral to the hospital, I was forced into looking down the loo after going to the toilet and I feel there's something not right. I think there's possibly a blockage but I won't know til I get tested.

I never wanted to jump to the worst possible conclusion of bowel cancer. I always thought positive thinking my GP sent me out of caution.

I suppose I could play up my symptoms tomorrow and tell my mother that this appointment is important for me and ask her to avoid the bus until my procedure is done.

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EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 06/01/2022 03:57

Your mum is being selfish, it wouldn't hurt her to stay local for a week. It's not like you are asking her to stay in the house!

Hotyogahotchoc · 06/01/2022 04:29

I think your mum is being selfish.

Have you explained to her that it's just this week you'd like her to try to avoid exposure because I presume you can't get your procedure if you test positive? Surely she can be careful for a week.

I kind of understand OP as I feel like my mother is the same but I don't live with her. I was careful about seeing people for a week before Christmas so that we could get together at Christmas as planned (and she encourages me to stay home and not go to crowded places) but then she was telling me all her plans for the week and I asked her not to go to certain places if she was coming to our house for Christmas in the next few days.

Butchyrestingface · 06/01/2022 04:58

I agree your mum is being very selfish and can’t understand her mentality. So many parents (mine included) go through heaven and high water to support a sick child, regardless of age. You’re not asking her to give you a kidney, just stay off a bus for a week so you can attend an important medical appointment. Why should that be too big an ask for the sake of her daughter’s health??

That said, given your mother’s attitude, I think you need to come up with a plan B. And as others have said, this probably means self isolating within the house and wearing a mask.

RedHelenB · 06/01/2022 06:40

I probably would isolate of you were my daughter but given that you are going out to work then I think yabu ro expect your mother to give up part of her routine.
I would self isolate in my room personally if I was you, from Friday until your appointment. If covid is as rife as you're saying then ut could yet be cancelled anyway.

phishy · 06/01/2022 08:26

I think YABU I’m afraid. At the end of the day, it’s her house.

How old are you?

Tomeeornottomee · 06/01/2022 09:04

I think your mother is extremely selfish. My DH &DM are CEV and I have been isolating on and off for the entire 2 years of covid. DH has to take massive doses of steroids every so often and is already in strong immunosuppressant meds and DM is having chemo and radiotherapy. I don’t see my GC as often, I don’t make unnecessary trips. I haven’t met up with anyone outside my family. I go shopping late at night if I can’t get a collection or delivery. Friends are happy to face time because they understand I have to protect my loved ones. I don’t think asking your mum to sacrifice one trip to town so you don’t miss your appointment is unreasonable at all. Hope all goes well with your procedure x💐

JustLyra · 06/01/2022 09:31

Your mother is being incredibly selfish. It’s one week. You’re showing how important it is by taking the time off work so it’s not like you’re asking her to do something you won’t.

Parents like that baffle me.

AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 11:52

Thanks for the replies.

If there's anything in particular that my mom needs I offered to do online shopping for her but it's not that. She likes to go to town to pass time and cure her boredom. I can't believe she's willing to risk covid at this time for not only herself but also for me just to cure her boredom.

I suspected for a few months that she's going senile and there's perhaps some sort of dementia setting in but it's not showing up as a typical forgetfulness. It's showing up a lot in moods and just a lack of sense and comprehension.

I need to chat to mom tonight to ask her her to not go on a bus tomorrow and to stop risking covid for now. Just for this week so that we remain covid free for another while at least.

What do you think I can say to her where she doesn't respond back with what I think is a gaslighting response - 'we need to live our lives'. We are living our lives. I'm asking her to really stall on bus journeys for this week so that we can minimise covid exposures.

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JuergenSchwarzwald · 06/01/2022 12:15

You are not unreasonable OP. Just tell your mother she MUST stay away from overcrowded places for the next week until you have had your investigation, and then she can go to the shops on the bus again.

I as just going to ask if she is neurotypical as it sounds a bit weird that she cannot grasp this but I see your latest post about her possibly having early stage dementia. All you can do is keep saying she cannot use the bus for one week only and see if it sinks in.

It's not about not living your lives, it's about avoiding covid for an important event.

sunflowerroses · 06/01/2022 12:40

YANBU. I had to have an important operation recently and my whole whole household minimised contact for two weeks and isolated for five days - it's important so these things can go ahead.

ifonly4 · 06/01/2022 12:45

If she's not willing to reduce contact, then I think you need to take the matter into your own hands and isolate from her - stay in your room, cook meals at a different time and don't engage in conversation. If you're aware she's fairly close open the door or window. Also, you could wear a mask when moving around the house.

AutumnDance · 06/01/2022 13:10

Do you know what's worse. There's usually a long wait list. I was expecting a wait list of 7 ot 8 months but I read the wait list can be longer. I got a call last week and it's actually a cancellation appointment so I feel so blessed to get an appointment within a reasonable time frame. I am annoyed because my mom is not able to comprehend covid exposures and of covid gets into the household the public health guidelines states the whole household must isolate. I can't believe she's willing to throw this away from me even though she threw a massive tantrum when my GP first referred me to the hospital. She heard the word colonoscopy and she diagnosed bowel cancer in me in our kitchen even though she has no medical expertise. There was urging me to go private even though I don't have health insurance and I don't have the money to spend on private hospital appointments and procedures.

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Piggy42 · 06/01/2022 13:18

YANBU OP, your mum is being really selfish. I don’t understand some posters on here. Would you really not take one less trip into town to help prevent your family member having to wait an extra 3 months for a medical procedure?

RedHelenB · 06/01/2022 14:33

@AutumnDance

Thanks for the replies.

If there's anything in particular that my mom needs I offered to do online shopping for her but it's not that. She likes to go to town to pass time and cure her boredom. I can't believe she's willing to risk covid at this time for not only herself but also for me just to cure her boredom.

I suspected for a few months that she's going senile and there's perhaps some sort of dementia setting in but it's not showing up as a typical forgetfulness. It's showing up a lot in moods and just a lack of sense and comprehension.

I need to chat to mom tonight to ask her her to not go on a bus tomorrow and to stop risking covid for now. Just for this week so that we remain covid free for another while at least.

What do you think I can say to her where she doesn't respond back with what I think is a gaslighting response - 'we need to live our lives'. We are living our lives. I'm asking her to really stall on bus journeys for this week so that we can minimise covid exposures.

I wouldn’t bother. Isolate yourself, wear a mask etc Positive vibes you get to your appointment and Al us well.
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