Why are all young girl suddenly good looking?

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I'm 40 in the 90s I was reasonably attractive by 90s standards.
I was a size 12 blond curly hair, outfit deom topshop and put on nice make up with some Charlie perfume.
I look at my nieces all identikit long smooth hair, make up perfectly put on with false eyelashes, tiny sized, super stylish all could be models from their insta accounts as could their mates is everyone better looking these days or better tools?
Do I need a make up tutorial from one of them so I'm not such an old dog 😂

I think it’s the underlying message of “you don’t look good enough as you are” which these poor young women (and men) are absorbing which is the most damaging thing of all— there is a thread here from a woman who thinks she is ugly without her false eyelashes, it just despairs me that young people aren’t growing up to appreciate themselves , to learn to love themselves exactly as they are.

I think people will back at the “fillers and Botox” fashion in the same way we look on corsets and lead face powder.

jeepersdeepers As someone that grew up eating only a mediterranean diet fresh fish, home grown fruit and veg, and quality meat i can assure you you can still be short, D.N.A. plays a huge part

I get a weird sort of pleasure out of sweating it out at the gym with no makeup and my hair frizzing up. I sort of feel that the uglier I get, the better my workout.

And weirdly, it doesn't seem to put men off. I've seen them looking at me with interesr and sometimes they start talking to me. It's not why I do it, and I assure you it's not a fresh-faced, sex-flush gym bunny look...think more tomato face and exploding frizz. I look awful. But some men seem to like it.

@DrSbaitso

I get a weird sort of pleasure out of sweating it out at the gym with no makeup and my hair frizzing up. I sort of feel that the uglier I get, the better my workout.

And weirdly, it doesn't seem to put men off. I've seen them looking at me with interesr and sometimes they start talking to me. It's not why I do it, and I assure you it's not a fresh-faced, sex-flush gym bunny look...think more tomato face and exploding frizz. I look awful. But some men seem to like it.

Unless men have changed a lot since I was young I don't think they prefer the heavily made up look so I don't think the pressure to look this way comes from them.

They might look nice but its all the same. They’re not unique. I find it sad they need to look like someone else, yet they all end up with big eyebrows, bulging nude lips and foundation you can scrape off.

@ElvisPresleyHadABaby

I think the scornful identikit comments are detracting from the disturbing reality that our girls are being conditioned younger and younger to believe that they must conform to compete for male validation. These looks are cultivated and perpetuated by intense social media pressure and existing teenage insecurity. Regardless of whether you think they look good or not, it's incredibly sad to see the lack of compassion.

We've definitely gone backwards in that sense.

Like the fad for small fridges for beauty products. At 11, you don't need any beauty products.

Blame the companies and advertisers. The worse they can make you feel about yourself, and if you buy their rubbish you'll feel better. Influencers that hawk the junk.
Our society is incredibly damaging for girls/women and it's gotten worse.

My nieces all look like that.
24-year-old niece regularly has fillers, botox, hair extensions and sunbeds.
I recently met up with her for a night out. She was wearing tiny shorts and a cami top. All I could think was she must be freezing 😂

@ElvisPresleyHadABaby

I think the scornful identikit comments are detracting from the disturbing reality that our girls are being conditioned younger and younger to believe that they must conform to compete for male validation. These looks are cultivated and perpetuated by intense social media pressure and existing teenage insecurity. Regardless of whether you think they look good or not, it's incredibly sad to see the lack of compassion.

This is a good point, although teens are often scornful of anyone who suggests that there's a political context rather than just being about self-expression and personal choice. Of course that's nothing new - who wants to think of themselves as being manipulated? But it seems far more damaging now because social media is so all-pervasive, and because there's more likelihood of long term consequences these days (from things like irreversible surgical procedures, debt from overspending, psychological damage etc).

If its online pictures, they are all filtered. Plenty of average looking girls look wonderful with a filter

Iwas a lecturer in history of fashion.

Contouring and lip fillers are a result of nothing new happening in fashion. The last new invention was the Body by Donna Karen. As there are no real new developments, people have turned to work on themselves as a new thing. Tattoos everywhere are the same thing, as us extreme plastic surgery.

Nothing in the fashion world lasts and there will be a reaction to it at some point. Don’t know when though.

@CaptainMyCaptain I think they do generally prefer the heavily made up sort. I was messing about with photofeeler and the photo with the heavy makeup (done painstakingly by a Suqqu makeup artist at Selfridges for an hour) got the highest ratings. The 'natural'' photo that I posted (which is my DH's phone wallpaper (I still wear makeup but its a 15 min simpler look) got merely 'average' ratings.

I do notice IRL that they gravitate towards the girls with the heavy makeup. Men just say in surveys that they like girls who look natural, but they often don't know what 'truly natural' looks like! I am in my 20s. Of course there are blokes who are different, and we meet so many men everyday that even 10% thought we were attractive, we would still get hit on multiple times a day and would have no shortage of romantic partners.

Being the old fart that I am I find the 'Love Island' orangey tab plastic tits filler extensions fluorescent white teeth long glitter nails somewhat baffling.

All men I've ever spoken to about it say they hate makeup or it's not necessary or they prefer a natural look. Then they see a picture of a celebrity without makeup and can't believe it. When you don't use the stuff, you don't realise how much it can make you morph.

It's a sad thing to notice but when the police release a photo of a young teenager who's missing, quite often it's heavily filtered. They look 20, slim and glamorous. A day or so later they manage to get hold of a normal, candid photo of the missing girl and they don't look anything at all a like, it's quite dangerous really.

I do notice IRL that they gravitate towards the girls with the heavy makeup. Men just say in surveys that they like girls who look natural, but they often don't know what 'truly natural' looks like!

Yeah, this is it.

If we all stopped wearing any makeup at all, even just a bit of foundation and blush, they'd be horrified.

@onlychildhamster I am quite old and my experience hasn't been like that. Pre-online dating but I got married at 52 so not ancient history - maybe men have changed, I wonder what is driving that.

@DrSbaitso

I do notice IRL that they gravitate towards the girls with the heavy makeup. Men just say in surveys that they like girls who look natural, but they often don't know what 'truly natural' looks like!

Yeah, this is it.

If we all stopped wearing any makeup at all, even just a bit of foundation and blush, they'd be horrified.

I have never even worn foundation and blush. Just a little eyeshadow, mascara and lippy if any make up at all. I've had my fair share of male attention when I wanted it.

I have never even worn foundation and blush. Just a little eyeshadow, mascara and lippy if any make up at all. I've had my fair share of male attention when I wanted it.

So you are wearing makeup!

I'm sure you have had male attention, and maybe you are more naturally beautiful than most. But if you're doing your makeup well, it'll make you prettier...that's usually the best of it.

@CaptainMyCaptain I have had unwanted male attention even when I was wearing a face mask! I was quite sad at that because I naively thought face mask =peace and quiet at last.

But generally I find that I get more male attention when I wear makeup. Its why the work bathrooms are always full of girls doing their face at 6 pm on a Friday night.

@CaptainMyCaptain Porn i think. The women there look extremely artificial. if you google porn actresses with and without makeup, you would get a shock. Boys are exposed to that and then they think their girlfriends should look like that.

I'm not against make up altogether but there's a difference between a little light make up enhancing your appearance and the heavy contouring, false eyelashes look.

[quote onlychildhamster]@CaptainMyCaptain Porn i think. The women there look extremely artificial. if you google porn actresses with and without makeup, you would get a shock. Boys are exposed to that and then they think their girlfriends should look like that.[/quote]
I think, sadly, you are right.

I don't think they are better looking these days.
They're very good at taking selfies & adding filters!
It's very fake today. When you look at their social media photos & then see them in real life the difference is sometimes unreal!

I also believe they're fatter now too. It if fashions involve high waisted stuff. They hide big tummy's in these.
Back in the 90s it was all about being skinny, flat stomach & low rise trousers/crop tops. We were all getting our belly buttons pierced!

@Alayalaya

I ask myself the same question! 15 years ago I was considered beautiful. But I wouldn’t match up to the girls I see nowadays. They’re so sculpted and I don’t know how they do it. Even other women in their 30s seem to look sculpted, it’s not an effect of youth. I’m genuinely puzzled.

The other thing that puzzles me is women who claim to be the same weight and height as me but they aren’t fat? Perfectly flat stomach despite having a BMI of 25.

Muscle is denser than fat and people accumulate fat in different places.

@Puffalicious

YABU for wearing Charlie! I'm 10 years older than you and it was all YSL Paris/ CKOne/ Beautiful. Charlie?

Yes, my grandmother wore Charlie in the 90s when she was in her 70s.