To want our neighbours to not dry their laundry on their front drive?

[Hop27]

We have new neighbours, they seem to live out their garage. Constantly fixing their 3 cars, parking their cars in front of other peoples drives. Sitting in their cars with the door open talking on their phone via the speaker, vaping - music blaring. Now drying their laundry on an airer on the front drive. AIBU to think put it in your back garden like normal people FFS. The rest is bad enough, but the whole street doesn't need to see your pants!

@Apricotblue

I hear you op. Some people on here have never lived in a rough council estate so glorify that behaviour a bit I think. It’s normally a precursor to worse antisocial behaviour and having the police out often without a thought for their neighbours. Anyone who’s lived on a rough estate knows the ones in street all the time are the people to avoid.

I grew up on a council estate.

I don't glorify anything, but I think it's very telling when people use "council estate" as a synonym for "criminal / violent / anti-social".

@Dalalalada

This is a dog whistle case of either racism or class snobbery. Without doubt the op considers herself morally superior by virtue of class or race and is looking for confirmation here.

Op, look at your own biases.

Racism?

I agree with PPs saying it's not generally nice to dry laundry in front of house in full view . It brings down neighbourhood .

Unless there is a good reason like too small a back garden or that it's done by everyone.

IMO It's nicer for neighbours not to have to look out onto your laundry at the front and very sensible to put the underwear in the middle of rotary line with bigger less private items on outside

If it doesn't bother you to see laundry out front, that's fine. But like another PP said, that's probably because your surroundings aren't as important to you. Some people walk around on their phones head down and some like to go for walks looking around enjoying their area.

I wonder why no one is bothered about their items getting nicked from front if they hang them out there?! ..... . I can totally see school children grabbing some clothes as they walk past to mess about with them and show off. Even in nice areas some teens rebel and do silly things.

@itsgettingweird

Sadly it usually is renters who care less for property and flaut the rules in my experience . I've been a landlord and had this with tenants , I've lived in a small block of flats where renters did not have the same regard as owners and where I live now we have the obligatory social housing flats . To say it is a nightmare for the people who live adjacent to these is a nightmare - people parking on landscaped areas, people parking in other people's spaces , laundry hanging from balconies and the disdain with which these young women talk about their brand new flats they are renting on the FB group - flats that cost 300k to private buyers .

🤣🤣🤣🤣 funniest thing I've ever read.

Also wonder if you are my neighbour who I got chatting to when I moved into my new build estate 15 years ago. She had a great time blaming the people in "those (pointing) HA flats" for the fire set in the park, the damaged cars and the parking. Also "those too" from the small cul de sac of houses where a very well known hooligan who smashed cars and ran into the road (he was 8!) lived.

And I loved every minute when she finished pointing out my flats were the HA ones - including me and also the houses behind us not the privately owned houses in the cul de sac across the road.

No, not me . This is an area less than 2 years old.

@whereismumhiding3

I agree with PPs saying it's not generally nice to dry laundry in front of house in full view . It brings down neighbourhood .

Unless there is a good reason like too small a back garden or that it's done by everyone.

IMO It's nicer for neighbours not to have to look out onto your laundry at the front and very sensible to put the underwear in the middle of rotary line with bigger less private items on outside

If it doesn't bother you to see laundry out front, that's fine. But like another PP said, that's probably because your surroundings aren't as important to you. Some people walk around on their phones head down and some like to go for walks looking around enjoying their area.

I wonder why no one is bothered about their items getting nicked from front if they hang them out there?! ..... . I can totally see school children grabbing some clothes as they walk past to mess about with them and show off. Even in nice areas some teens rebel and do silly things.

You sound like Hyacinth Bucket without the comic timing.

@Apricotblue

I hear you op. Some people on here have never lived in a rough council estate so glorify that behaviour a bit I think. It’s normally a precursor to worse antisocial behaviour and having the police out often without a thought for their neighbours. Anyone who’s lived on a rough estate knows the ones in street all the time are the people to avoid.

😂😂😂 Hanging your washing out at the front of the house is a precursor to antisocial behaviour and having the police out. Brilliant

Absolute nothing you can do about it.
Mwah, ha, ha!

I don't glorify anything, but I think it's very telling when people use "council estate" as a synonym for "criminal / violent / anti-social"

Isn't it just.

You conveniently missed out that @IamGusFring* also listed a number of antisocial things some renters in his area are doing that is damaging the area and causing problems for neighbours. Like parking on landscaping and in other peoples allocated spaces.

I think you are being disingenuous to not see that they are looking down on renters (particularly those in social housing, as they made the point that when they rented they were in private rental), and we don't know that only those who rent are guilty of bad parking etc., do we?

You sound like Hyacinth Bucket without the comic timing.

Love it

@DietrichandDiMaggio

You conveniently missed out that @IamGusFring* also listed a number of antisocial things some renters in his area are doing that is damaging the area and causing problems for neighbours. Like parking on landscaping and in other peoples allocated spaces.

I think you are being disingenuous to not see that they are looking down on renters (particularly those in social housing, as they made the point that when they rented they were in private rental), and we don't know that only those who rent are guilty of bad parking etc., do we?

In this case we do . It is very easy to see the people who park on the grass and leave vehicles about which are not supposed to be on the estate at all . I am only speaking about my experiences.

But the 'view OP chose' is apparently just of someone else's house, so not sure why you would want to sit and enjoy looking at that whether there were clothes in the garden or not

@Starcaller you're obviously not a gardener!! Or don't have a house that looks nice from the outside in a nice area?

I appreciate not everyone can afford to rent or buy a house with 'kerb appeal' and some people live in cities or towns where there is no front to their house, no back garden and in close terraces. But that isn't OPs area, she's talking about where she lives it is out of place , not where others live.

Starcaller You can have lovely relaxing views out your living room of other peoples houses and gardens including your own garden, where they have planted nicely, keep their front of house tidy and there are trees lining the road or trees and beautiful planting in front gardens. My neighbour has a beautiful marigold tree and I have a pretty blossom tree just outside. It's so relaxing to sit listening to music with that lovely view🌳

It sounds like OP bought a house in a nice looking area with drives and nicely kept front gardens and that these neighbours are making the area noisier and messier living domestic lives out front.

She's allowed to comment on it on an anonymous Internet forum to ask if SIBU to be bothered by it. At no point has she said she will go over and complain to neighbours she just thinks it is unusual behaviour in their area, that's a bit unsightly. Most people don't hang washing out front when they have a back garden.

It's been quite interesting to hear how some people do hang washing out front and how they live. I think it's about the neighbourhood you live in and what the norm is.

Sorry another bond fail- the first paragraph is quote from starcaller

@CSJobseeker clearly you need to Google synonym

On our housing estate (built 25 years ago, about 400 houses) there is a covenant saying you must not dry washing in the front garden. If you have no such covenant, then you will prob just have to suck this up. Perhaps they are sorting themselves out and it won’t be forever?

I have a house that has wonderful views from the back across my garden and across the Cairngorms, which is a view that I can control because it's my own garden. I don't really have much interest in sitting at the front to look into someone's driveway or house or into the road, no. However lovely someone's house is, I don't really want to sit and look into it!

You say you see it from your bedroom window, well so do most people whose bedrooms face towards the back of the house.

What's the difference?

Just looking out of my bedroom window I can currently see approx 5 lines of washing, including (clutches pearls) underthings!

Should I go round and tell them to move their washing on to their front so I don't have to look at it?

Of course I bloody shouldn't, you are being totally ridiculous.

Get blinds if you find it so offensive (common is what you are really trying to say)

If it doesn't bother you to see laundry out front, that's fine. But like another PP said, that's probably because your surroundings aren't as important to you. Some people walk around on their phones head down and some like to go for walks looking around enjoying their area

Again...not being bothered by the sight of drying clothes does not equal "looking at your phone all the time". I love my garden and my neighborhood. I love the birds and sitting outside with my pets. I love gardening and growing my own veg. I don't mow my lawn because I like the insects and butterflies and wildflowers. You are not more observant or living a more wholesome/mindful life just because you're offended by seeing pants for fucks sake.

[quote Apricotblue]@CSJobseeker clearly you need to Google synonym[/quote]
You need to Google a grip.

Wouldn't bother me, I'd enjoy silently judging them 😂

hanging truly loved that post.

@VikingOnTheFridge
You sound like a bully as that is such a lazy inappropriate cliche to say attempting to denigrate anyone who expresses that it's good to be thoughtful of neighbours and to be bothered enough to contribute to a nice tidy neighbourhood

In real life people are bothered by anti social things

People are literally telling you how many housing developers put it into their contracts no laundry out the front and have been doing so for 20+ years.

As already said, it's not rocket science

Some PPs doing childish name calling isn't going to change facts that many people would be a bit bothered if their neighbours did what OPs new neighbours are doing as it's slightly antisocial.

@HangingOver

If it doesn't bother you to see laundry out front, that's fine. But like another PP said, that's probably because your surroundings aren't as important to you. Some people walk around on their phones head down and some like to go for walks looking around enjoying their area

Again...not being bothered by the sight of drying clothes does not equal "looking at your phone all the time". I love my garden and my neighborhood. I love the birds and sitting outside with my pets. I love gardening and growing my own veg. I don't mow my lawn because I like the insects and butterflies and wildflowers. You are not more observant or living a more wholesome/mindful life just because you're offended by seeing pants for fucks sake.

Well said! I live in a beautiful place and love looking at the world around me. Whether or not I can see someone's laundry, or a car being repaired matters not one bit to me.

In fact, the set-up of the streets here means that you can often see people's back gardens (and therefore their laundry drying) from the road. Why on earth would this interfere with my enjoyment of my surroundings?

Blocking cars in - yes, that would be very annoying, but that's not what OP started the thread about.

And no, Apricotblue , I don't need to google what synonym means! I said exactly what I meant.

It is best to live and let live - if only some neighbours would leave their neighbours to do this.

I think it's common in England for there to be a clause in property deeds prohibiting washing from being be hung out in front gardens. I noticed it in all my tenancy agreements from previous properties and also in the deeds when I bought this house. It's just an average house in an average area, not new build or on a fancy development. In practice, it seems quite arachaic and I'm not sure who would do the enforcing or how it would be enforced!