To want our neighbours to not dry their laundry on their front drive?

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We have new neighbours, they seem to live out their garage. Constantly fixing their 3 cars, parking their cars in front of other peoples drives. Sitting in their cars with the door open talking on their phone via the speaker, vaping - music blaring. Now drying their laundry on an airer on the front drive. AIBU to think put it in your back garden like normal people FFS. The rest is bad enough, but the whole street doesn't need to see your pants!

There's unpleasantness on this thread tonight. Sometimes a MN thread takes a turn for the worse
I agree invisible lots of misquoting people by a minority of PPs for effect and nastiness. I'd give up if I were you, looks like OP left ages ago too, don't blame them. Let the irrelevantly indignant ones have their frenzy, they may start to turn on each too soon. *gets popcorn 🍿

But what DOES offend me is the neighbour opposite leaving her shite (unwanted kids garden toys etc) outside the front garden on the pavement for the binmen for weeks on end. Now THAT'S inconsiderate.

That is inconsiderate and that's the point that PPs have been making and OP made.

It sounds to me you were agreeing with the PPs and OP!

Sorry I forgot I'm meant to be eating my popcorn watching the show here of minority of PPs writing as many insults and misquotes as they can !! I do love a good show...

I agree about the unpleasantness though - I didn't like it when @invisiblereally implied I was lacking emotional intelligence. I managed not to retaliate by calling them weird though, so that's good.

Full marks for the stealth Father Ted reference!

Had to be done lol

@invisiblereally you're talking about misquoting then said you suggested anyone who wants a good view should move to the country where they aren't over looking other houses

I suggested nothing of the sort. I don't live in the country.

That is inconsiderate and that's the point that PPs have been making and OP made.

There's a difference between drying clothes in your own garden and leaving rubbish on the communal space of the pavement for weeks on end. This is not the point that PPs have made at all, or that the OP was complaining about.

I think it's nice when people take pride in their home & contribute to keeping the area lovely

But what constitutes "lovely" is a very subjective thing. I have a particular loathing of front gardens with grass clipped to within an inch of its life and beds full of bedding plants, spaced at equal intervals with near military precision, thrown away or composted and replaced every spring. There's one such a few doors along from me and it looks so sterile and unnatural.

My front garden is planted with some bulbs, a few perennials and lots of stuff grown from seed initially and left to self-seed, but everything in it attracts pollinators. I counted 12 different varieties of butterflies and moths in a couple of hours last year, and 4 different types of bee. It is also home to shedloads of ladybirds and small birds spend ages foraging in the beds.

The neighbour with the military front garden probably thinks mine is messy, but to me it's infinitely more beautiful than his.

Gosh, if this is all you have to fret about, you have an easy life. Maybe take up a hobby?

Me too Ikeptgoing popcorn is out!

I'd be more annoyed about the music blaring myself.

@QuestionableMouse

Speak for yourself there - I've never cared about washing being out. I actually think it looks quite nice! There's nothing objectionable about clean laundry!

I agree. There's something quite cheering about a line full of clean laundry billowing in the breeze on a sunny day.

There seems to be an entitled view on MN that somehow you are able to have a day in what other people do with their own property.

I don't want to see other peoples pants or listen to their convos from their cars either, but it's one of the reasons I choose to live remotely, with no neighbours.

*say

I had a neighbour dry their washing out the front, I didn't think it looked great but that's their own business. At least they used a nice smelling washing powder so it was pleasant to walk past. I'd be far more annoyed by excessive noise.

The washing wouldn’t bother me. I’d hang my stuff in front if we had no space/sun at the back, including washable sanitary towels and pants. Bit unusual if they’ve space at the back but pants are not really harmful.

I agree. There's something quite cheering about a line full of clean laundry billowing in the breeze on a sunny day.

You make it sound like a Persil ad. The washing my neighbours at my old house use to hang out were a motley selection of yellow Y-fronts, teen stained Spiderman duvet and bras that could be used launch bowling balls into space.

@Bovrilly

I did say offensive, that's true. People seem so concerned about it, it hadn't occurred to me it would be to do with something as banal as tidiness.

I am interested in that though - why is laundry untidy when presumably all the other day to day stuff of modern life is not, like cars of different colours, people walking around, street furniture, front gardens of different designs etc. The world is a haphazard and untidy place, so how come laundry in particular is so bothersome?

I don't think this is explainable, it's simply a question of what you find beautiful or ugly.

There is a huge amount of ugliness in residential Britain, so maybe it's not surprising that many people don't see anything wrong with it.

There are lots of other things that are eyesores that aren't prevented, that doesn't mean it's OK to add more bad things into the mix. Cars very often are detrimental. Any British residential street where people leave bins out the front looks like an utter slum to me, I would never live in such a place.

If I were elected Prime Minister I would pass a law that would mean the residents of terraces would be able to impose group standards on all the buildings in the terrace, not just with regard to gardens, but making sure the actual buildings were decorated and maintained according to a code, so as to improve whole streets aesthetically.

Damn , putting my popcorn down ...

Quote from @girlmom
"@invisiblereally I'll say it again while you're throwing around your nonsense insults: if you want to 'enjoy the view' from your house you don't buy a house directly opposite"

@girlmom21 - so you last post wasn't true. We can alll read too . You really should read what you write... (I copied it above, If you didn't mean middle of countryside where there are no houses opposite then where were you suggesting ?) . I can't find the 'nonsense insults' you claim they made either, that's also seems to be you.

I did read a slay with kindness of Bovrilly who has difficulty with their understanding. And Viking being pulled up in the insults she wrote

We can RTFT ourselves

I have no views either way. I understand both sides but I some PPs think we can't read !

I don't like people living in their front gardens, it is quite intimidating when you have to walk past and they stare at you. Which of course is why they do it, otherwise they would be round the back like normal people.

To be fair parking their cars in front of other peoples drives is also a major crime on MN and in the real world - you know, because people would like to get in and out.

I did read a slay with kindness of Bovrilly who has difficulty with their understanding.

Well I certainly don't understand this, so maybe it is me.

@DillonPanthersTexas

I agree. There's something quite cheering about a line full of clean laundry billowing in the breeze on a sunny day.

You make it sound like a Persil ad. The washing my neighbours at my old house use to hang out were a motley selection of yellow Y-fronts, teen stained Spiderman duvet and bras that could be used launch bowling balls into space.

I wonder if some people live next to models who hang out beautiful clothes billowing in the wind while the rest of us live in ugly town where the clothes ain't so fancy! I'm not keen on clothes being hung out the front by people if they don't have to but then I rarely notice as I'm often home late when it's dark and I sit looking into my back garden
Nope I don't hang washing in my eyeline either ... I use a ...tumbledrier. (gonna get slayed for not being eco!!! )

I don't think this is explainable, it's simply a question of what you find beautiful or ugly.

Is it really the case though that one should instinctively know what the neighbours think is ugly and refrain from having such things in one's own garden in case they glance up from their book and catch sight of them?

Serve them right if they get their washing stolen.

Why not creep over and cut the crotches out of all their underwear and trousers. Sit in your window and watch the floor show afterwards.

@Spartcat what are you talking about?

I don't live in the countryside. I live in a house with no houses opposite me.
Where's the lie?

Do you not think calling PP's weird for having different views is rude/insulting?

@Bovrilly I am so glad it's not just me who thinks that post makes no sense.
Someone's clearly been at the sherry...