To want our neighbours to not dry their laundry on their front drive?

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We have new neighbours, they seem to live out their garage. Constantly fixing their 3 cars, parking their cars in front of other peoples drives. Sitting in their cars with the door open talking on their phone via the speaker, vaping - music blaring. Now drying their laundry on an airer on the front drive. AIBU to think put it in your back garden like normal people FFS. The rest is bad enough, but the whole street doesn't need to see your pants!

Meh. I live in a nice street and I put a clothes horse on our drive as that's when the sun is.

Don't really care what the neighbours think, I need dry clothes.

We've all got our bins on our drives 24/7 anyways so

Not really any of your business OP.

I live in flats, and one of the ground floor residents puts their clothes outside on an airer during the summer months... I wouldn't personally do this, but each to their own. It's not hurting anybody.

By sitting in living room for hours on and off for hours appreciating view from window I mean sit chatting listening to music or reading (or working) during the day and appreciating view from window when you look up or out which house naturally do. Most people don't like to have to close their curtains during the day and appreciate a bit of natural daylight.

I do not mean "staring out the window for hours". I have to say this before one of the weird PPs on this thread tries to twist what others say or "mean" again

Most people check out their view from living room and kitchen window by sink when choosing what house to buy as those are places you spend most of your time awake when at home when enjoying your home. And if is lovely to have a nice view and sad (not offensive!) for that to be impacted, where neighbours could be more considerate of each other.

@madisonbridges

My house is 90 years old and there's a clause in the deeds that you can't hang your washing out on a Sunday.

My NDN allegedly disapproves of me hanging out laundry on a Sunday.

But I bet she doesn't disapprove half as much as I disapprove of her being judgey about the two gay couples in our road.

'Weird PPs'?? Think it's you who's weird mate. Offensive/annoying/inconsiderate or whatever you want to call it. It's completely bizarre that this causes people grief enough to post on social media about it. I wish that's all I had to worry about 🙄

@riotlady

I’m sorry but I’m actually fucking howling at “The washing may not be an eyesore, but it's symbolic”

There's a difference between PPs - from those understanding other PPs viewpoints and showing consideration, and wanting to contribute to a nice environment in their neighbourhood, to those PPs ridiculing others for their viewpoints, who don't care in the same way about their neighbourhood and showing how little they understand about other people having different experiences , different housing and views to them.

I'm glad you find it so funny but I hope you aren't this belittling of others thoughts and feelings, that differ to yours, in real life.

@invisiblereally I'll say it again while you're throwing around your nonsense insults: if you want to 'enjoy the view' from your house you don't buy a house directly opposite other houses.

I did say offensive, that's true. People seem so concerned about it, it hadn't occurred to me it would be to do with something as banal as tidiness.

I am interested in that though - why is laundry untidy when presumably all the other day to day stuff of modern life is not, like cars of different colours, people walking around, street furniture, front gardens of different designs etc. The world is a haphazard and untidy place, so how come laundry in particular is so bothersome?

@tiredofthisshit21

'Weird PPs'?? Think it's you who's weird mate. Offensive/annoying/inconsiderate or whatever you want to call it. It's completely bizarre that this causes people grief enough to post on social media about it. I wish that's all I had to worry about 🙄

I'm sorry to hear you have troubles in your life. Other people do too. But this thread isn't about other troubles. if you think it's not something to be bothered about, you've made your point and PP heard you, don't attack PP for not agreeing with you. OP made a thread about something that frustrates her.

For some people their homes are their sanctuary and they enjoy getting on with neighbours and being considerate and enjoy how lovely their neighbourhood looks. For others it isn't as important.

There's a huge difference between words you claim others have used - inconsiderate is not the same as offensive at all - so they are not interchangeable like you seem to think they are when you misquote others.

It's not really a great repost to say " I'm not weird you are!"
I referred to weird posters twisting and exaggerating what was being said. If you feel that's you, as you clearly do as you've taken it personally- then it is right that I point out it is a strange thing to do when other PPs can read themselves what was actually said if they RTFT and will wonder why another PP has twisted it into something not said. As it's in black and white infront of them in the thread.

I never understand on MN when a minority of PPs fire off claim something was said that wasn't and berate others for it, when it can easily be proven it wasn't . It IS a weird tactic.

MN fascinates me when it comes to what other people get themselves in a tizzy about

Because it is domestic and when it’s pants and bras etc it’s rather personal for uptight British sensibilités to be out where all neighbours can see it. I’m not actually a prude but I’d prefer not to look at my neighbours underwear out of my front neighbour. I’d prefer some of my neighbours in partic not to be looking at mine ! Silly it may be - in fact it is really - but there we are. We’ve all got things which are deep rooted and don’t always bear much examination.
Eg if this were a campsite - no problem - I strip off on beaches without a second thought if that is the norm etc.
All bizarre really.

[quote girlmom21]@invisiblereally I'll say it again while you're throwing around your nonsense insults: if you want to 'enjoy the view' from your house you don't buy a house directly opposite other houses. [/quote]
I'm sorry to hear that the houses you live in or opposite don't look nice or aren't nicely kept. Many people on here are referring to enjoying view of their neighbourhoods where houses and gardens and outside environment are nicely kept. So are a pleasure to have a view of when you look up out your living room window or return home from work or walking with DCs back from school .

That's not the same at all as wanting to live rurally where you overlook fields or woods. It's not difficult to understand. Unless you have never had the fortune to live in a nice area or neighbourhood. And it's sad if that has been your experience, I am sorry to hear that.

However I understand it may be the case that it isn't important to you and you like city living or where you live regardless of how your street looks.

If you are someone who isn't bothered about keeping your house and neighbourhood nice then that's your viewpoint , doesn't change other peoples viewpoints though and that to OP and many other people it is important and affects how they feel and relax. OPs neighbours sound quite inconsiderate by their behaviour which will be impacting on many of their neighbours.

I think it would annoy me. I’m getting to an age where the state of the streets is an issue to me 😂 Near me there are lovely roads where everyone obviously makes an effort and then trashy roads where the front gardens are full of all sorts of crap. It changes the whole feeling of walking through and it’s depressing to arrive home to.

I’ve lived on both types of streets and when I was younger, have to admit I acted accordingly. If everyone else is putting their trash out early.. etc.

@invisiblereally stop trying to be patronising and snobby. I don't live opposite houses but nice try...

I did grow up on a council estate. The houses were fine.

In any of the houses I've lived in I've never sat having a conversation and 'enjoying the view' or reading a book and 'enjoying the view' etc. If you're doing those things the view is irrelevant. If it's not then your conversations and choices of literature need work.

Again @girlmom21
You misquote me I havent "thrown around nonsense insults" you are thinking of someone else or you have made it up. People can read my posts themselves and I've been understanding and polite.

I have however argued back where people have misquoted, name called or been unnecessarily insulting and said that isn't kind nor appropriate.

We would much rather read comments where people have RTFT, aren't being insulting for the sake of it to anyone that differs from them, and have genuine & polite points to make.

@invisiblereally calling people weird because they disagree with you is a nonsense insult.

OP asked if she was being unreasonable to be annoyed by neighbour's washing. I think she is. Isn't that the point of AIBU?!

FYI patronising lady (I forget your user name) I live in a 'nice' neighbourhood. Average house price is around £400k (North of England). But what DOES offend me is the neighbour opposite leaving her shite (unwanted kids garden toys etc) outside the front garden on the pavement for the binmen for weeks on end. Now THAT'S inconsiderate.

@invisiblereally

What rubbish *@VikingOnTheFridge* The bullying was you namecalling - which is inappropriate and unkind.

Read what I said as it's an accurate assessment.

There's no need to misquote me or try to change what I said, as people can read themselves

Nobody misquoted you, an accurate assessment was made that your whole argument is ridiculous. Your entire attitude is inappropriate.

@girlmom21
Most people when listening to music or "reading a book" do look up every now and then
I sit by my window as it is great natural light and enjoying looking out at my and my neighbours trees.

As I said before it is unnecessary to be so rude and name call, nothing I've said is snobby or patronising. Just because it is a different view to yours you shouldn't insult people.

You clearly think that looking out in other houses in a street can't be a good view as you suggested anyone who wants a good view should move to the country where they aren't over looking other houses. But that isn't what I think nor what many other people think.

So my answer to you was a logical response that wherever you have lived may have not been what you think is a nice view since YOU stated yourself for a 'nice view' people 'should move' to somewhere rural there are no other houses. There are many degrees of middle ground between moving to middle of nowhere and living in a street where people don't take pride in it. It doesn't matter whether it's a poor or richer area, antisocial behaviour happens anywhere. And some of the smartest streets are lines of terraced houses more in town centre with lovely little front gardens that are obviously well cared for. They have rules about what is allowed in front gardens however and any washing would be nicked before they'd been out there long!

I chose my house as it looks a nice area and nice street with lovely outlook and trees lining it, for which I am grateful as it's my sanctuary to return home to.

It wouldn't feel that way, if I was inconsiderate to my neighbours and they to me. It sounds like OP also enjoys the area she lives in and that's why these new neighbours behaviour is frustrating to her as it is so at odds with the rest of neighbours behaviour.

@riotlady

I’m sorry but I’m actually fucking howling at “The washing may not be an eyesore, but it's symbolic”

Yeah, that alone would justify this thread being in Classics.

Even OP is bored of this conversation now.....she hasn't been back in ages

Oh noes, you might see somebody's pants or great big feckin WOMEN'S KNICKERS!

Won't somebody think of the children?!
YABU

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Still not clear what it is about someone drying clothes in their own garden that is inconsiderate or antisocial. Is it really that someone opposite might be sitting reading in their front room, and when they glance up from their book, instead of seeing their neighbour's house, they see their neighbour's house with some clothes in front of it?

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Oh noes, you might see somebody's pants or great big feckin WOMEN'S KNICKERS! Won't somebody think of the children?! YABU

Full marks for the stealth Father Ted reference!