Royal guard video kicking child in the way

[DickMabutt73962]

I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'.

Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path

www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

Also a different child would’ve got more sympathy.

Absolute nonsense.

Next you will be saying that the guard deliberately targeted the child.

Stop it.

It’s entirely possible that the soldier didn’t even see the child, he certainly didn’t kick him, he Tripped over him. I imagine when they are on duty they just focus straight ahead.

What other uniforms would it be ok to wear to justify knocking over children. Police? Paramedics? What if a postman was really really busy trying to deliver letters and a child got in the way? Security guard? Delivery driver maybe?

I guess it really boils down to whether you're a forelock tugging royalist, or whether you think that all this pomp with idiotic uniforms that they apparently can't see whilst wearing is totally at odds with a modern society. The sooner we lose the royal family and all this theatrical bollocks the better. They're glorified security guards. If they can't march around without knocking people over then this whole thing needs to be rethought.

It’s not untypical for women or children to be used in terrorist attacks as weapons or distraction, probably only a matter of time until it happens in the UK too. Parenting fail to let your kids wander out in front of marching soldiers with live ammunition, it’s not a Disney parade.

I get why she isn't answering the Arlington question, because guards there would have done exactly the same thing and she'd have to think of a reason why it was more reasonable than at the Tower.

Was this kid American? Genuinely interested, as I may have missed a report to that effect.

Also, what is the problem you have with Arlington?

Perhaps having some respect for local customs wouldn't be amiss?

The xenophobia in this thread is appalling.

I imagine when they are on duty they just focus straight ahead.

Yes, because that's exactly how you guard a world heritage site or the Crown Jewels.

I think a lot of people here are being really obtuse and completely missing the point about the impact of this brutal scene on people who are not conditioned to be as much in awe of the Coldstream Guards and the rest of the British armed forces as they are, and who are able to see soldiers marching about in ridiculous uniforms for what they are - panto, theatre, not part of a serious attempt at security. People all over the world are the child who points out that the emperor has no clothes.

There was a post upthread where a hypothetical court scene was played out in excruciating detail, ending with the witness reduced to weeping and gnashing her teeth under cross by the defense.

(That was me with the hypothetical court scene and I barely recognise your ludicrously exaggerated description of it there. But at least you are being consistent with your ludicrous exaggerations on this thread, I'll give you that.)

There are people who honestly can't seem to understand how the image of a young black child being trampled on by a white soldier could be problematic.

(There are people who honestly can't seem to understand how the image of a soldier bumping into a child of any colour and then stepping right over him, could be clearly observed and then retold as a 'brutal trampling.' Unless of course you have an agenda and want to make it all about the fact that the child was black, suggesting that a deliberate act of racism was involved.)

That's not how impressions of a country and its culture and ethos work.

The excuses for the callous disregard for the welfare of the young child - the smugness, the coldness, the viciousness - are equally dreadful to behold. The fact that apparently nobody gave serious thought to restricting public access to areas where soldiers are obliged to march in straight lines and never stop or deviate from their route speaks very poorly of British ability to anticipate problems.

If I didn't know better I'd day this was a spoof post because it reads like someone trying to sound so outlandishly woke and hand wringy that it couldn't possibly be serious.

But then I remind myself that so much stuff of the stuff people say these days shouldn't be serious, but it is.

Truth has truly become stranger than fiction.

[quote supermoonrising]@dustandfluf
I hope the guard doesn't face any disciplinary action because of this stupid parent and child.

Do you apply the same logic to children hit by reckless drivers? “Well, they should have been there should they?”. Moronic logic.[/quote]
😂 you're funny. Because that is totally what I was saying wasn't it.

If you think the soldiers are fierce you should meet the pelicans in St James's Park.

Kid old enough to know better. Parents should have kept him back. You wouldn’t put yourself in the path of a car? Watch the videos on YouTube of American tourists getting a mouthful from the guards who were being antagonised.

@Alittlepotofrosie

What other uniforms would it be ok to wear to justify knocking over children. Police? Paramedics? What if a postman was really really busy trying to deliver letters and a child got in the way? Security guard? Delivery driver maybe?

I guess it really boils down to whether you're a forelock tugging royalist, or whether you think that all this pomp with idiotic uniforms that they apparently can't see whilst wearing is totally at odds with a modern society. The sooner we lose the royal family and all this theatrical bollocks the better. They're glorified security guards. If they can't march around without knocking people over then this whole thing needs to be rethought.

Round American airbases you don't need a uniform to knock children over, just a big 4x4 and an insistence on driving on the right side of the road whether or not you're on the base.

@limitedperiodonly

If you think the soldiers are fierce you should meet the pelicans in St James's Park.

Very true!!!!

Well shit happens. Non-NT and deaf people are allowed to visit these places too, do they deserve to be knocked over if they get in the way too? Or are they just stupid?

My son is hearing impaired, he knows that choosing to stand in front of someone walking and choosing not to move is stupid, he’s 6.

During the two minute silence one of my students with autism and ADHD ran and screamed into the middle of a group of ex-soldiers, then one of my deaf students who didn’t have her hearing aids in starting shouting after him.

Yes it was their fault.
And yes as teachers we were responsible but most people (hopefully) don’t stand their with their hands over students mouths.

Not one of the ex soldiers or mayor etc were annoyed.
The main person dropped their stance and whispered to show the boy how to do a salute properly to keep him calm.

Afterwards they all came over to thank them and said how proud they were of them that they came to the ceremony.

Round American airbases you don't need a uniform to knock children over, just a big 4x4 and an insistence on driving on the right side of the road whether or not you're on the base.

Oof 😬

@Alittlepotofrosie

What other uniforms would it be ok to wear to justify knocking over children. Police? Paramedics? What if a postman was really really busy trying to deliver letters and a child got in the way? Security guard? Delivery driver maybe?

I guess it really boils down to whether you're a forelock tugging royalist, or whether you think that all this pomp with idiotic uniforms that they apparently can't see whilst wearing is totally at odds with a modern society. The sooner we lose the royal family and all this theatrical bollocks the better. They're glorified security guards. If they can't march around without knocking people over then this whole thing needs to be rethought.

At least you're honest about hating royalty and the military.

I guess it really boils down to whether you're a forelock tugging royalist

Oh wise up.

I’m from NI, which has famously not had a great history with the British military. I’ve no grá for the institution.

I can still see that it’s a good idea to stay out of the way of a soldier of any nationality while they’re in the middle of carrying out their duties.

The mum probably didn't realise it as it looks like it happened within seconds. It happens. Parents don't always see everything every second of everyday. Accidents do happen.

I’ve been to the Tower and witnessed this “ceremony” several times. What this video doesn’t show is that shortly before the guards start their March so one else (usually a yeoman warder, aka beefeater) goes ahead instructing the visitors to clear a path and make way for the queens guard. This child’s parents appear to have chosen to ignore that simple request.

These men in “fancy dress” ARE trained soldiers who can and do serve in active theatres such as Iraq, Afghanistan etc. they may well have seen colleagues killed or injured by “civilians” in this places. While at the tower they are guarding the Crown Jewels and they and the tower are considered a high risk target for terrorist activity.

It is made clear to visitors that it is a WORKING Royal Palace with fully armed guards.

You wouldn’t put yourself in the path of a car?

@Universe1969

Kids step out in front of cars all of the time.
They don’t have the same common sense as an adult.

If a child stepped in front of your car would you carry on as normal or try and swerve or brake?

I guess it really boils down to whether you're a forelock tugging royalist, or whether you think that all this pomp with idiotic uniforms that they apparently can't see whilst wearing is totally at odds with a modern society

Yeah, no….I don’t think it does boil down to those two choices

Right, so now a soldier o focused on looking straight ahead they didn't see a child is an effective anti-terrorist threat.

There are so many ways people might accidentally end up in their path. A pregnant woman fainting, a child breaking free from their parent. If they have a serious security job to do, they should be trained to deviate from their routine in case the unexpected happens.

Apologies for shocking typos in my last post, I’m using my phone.

Do you send your child out to play in traffic, then complain when they're hit by a car?